sorry,thanks for help crab,i had a bad translation,but i use the best translator, http://translation.langenberg.com/
eehhh, I dont get it? :?
you have more than 6 tipes of translator there,i used one of them,i think you used another,and i translate to spanish latin america .
you have more than 6 tipes of translator there,i used one of them,i think you used another,and i translate to spanish latin america .[/quote]
No I dont use a translater, I just plainly dont get it…But you know, in different places of the world, theres different cultures/customs, and they produce jokes, for themselves, not for foriegners to understand. So there must be something British that I dont get… Any help?
you have more than 6 tipes of translator there,i used one of them,i think you used another,and i translate to spanish latin america .[/quote]
No I dont use a translater, I just plainly dont get it…But you know, in different places of the world, theres different cultures/customs, and they produce jokes, for themselves, not for foriegners to understand. So there must be something British that I dont get… Any help?[/quote]
All he could see was a white square, so he asked if it was a picture of an Argentinian soldier hiding behind a (white) polar bear in a (white) snow storm on a (white) glacier
you have more than 6 tipes of translator there,i used one of them,i think you used another,and i translate to spanish latin america .[/quote]
No I dont use a translater, I just plainly dont get it…But you know, in different places of the world, theres different cultures/customs, and they produce jokes, for themselves, not for foriegners to understand. So there must be something British that I dont get… Any help?[/quote]
All he could see was a white square, so he asked if it was a picture of an Argentinian soldier hiding behind a (white) polar bear in a (white) snow storm on a (white) glacier[/quote]
k, i think i got it thnx
danke
i previous posted about the argentinian army during 1938,they had the helmet m-18
photo:argentinian cavalry.
we had other uniforms,and now,im going to talk about the other old helmet.
the paratroopers helmet M-I (from argentina):
and the m1 for army:
argentinian veteran from falklands with that helmet:
and in 1970:
The argentinian army is considered a normal army,of a country of south america.
But you will find a PROFFESSIONAL ARMY,difference with the conscription in the 82 and other years,with experience,in peace missions (like haiti) and you will find the best pilots in the World!.But,it´s very small,it hasn´t a good number of money,and,the people is against the army nowadays,(WHEN YOU SEE DOCUMENTS ABOUT THE DISSAPEAREDS,YOU THINK THE MILITARY WAS ONLY KILLING CIVILIANS,BUT THE PEOPLE WANTED THEM TO CONTROL THE SECURITY,BECAUSE,OUTSIDE,THE THINGS WEREN´T GOOD,AND THE GUERRILLEROS WERE FUCKING TERRORISTS,WHO KILLED CIVILIANS WITH BOMBS,COWARDS!)note that we always tried to research weapons,misiles and other stuff about military,but USA blocked us in various chases,Im going to give an example now:
THE CONDOR
The “Dirección General de Desarrollos Espaciales” was the organization depending of “Fuerza Aérea Argentina” in charge of developing the CONDOR PROJECT.
Technical Data of The Condor I:
Aproximate length: 8 m.
Fuselage maximum diameter: 0,80 m.
Phases: One
Fuel: solid, made up of HTPB compounds (Hydoxil Terminated Poly Butadiene, the same one used in the boosters of the Thiokol of the Space Shuttle).- This fuel was manufactured at the Falda del Carmen plant.
Fixed canon, made of compound materials (probably molybdenum epoxy-trioxide resine).
Ogive made of epoxy resine.-
Gear system: inercial-aerodinamic, by means of flaps or dependant on the launching angle flight. It did not have any intelligent gear system.
The Condor I was meant for developing a rocket engine and to probably use this rocket for future atmospheric research, with a peak of 300 Km and a pay load of about 400-500 Kg.
The first static tests of the engine were carried out apparently in the mid 1983’s and it was planned to launch the first Condor I towards the late 1985, this never took place.
Details of The Alacran (Condor I-A III):
The second phase of this project consisted of the development of the Condor II, but in order to be able to test the technology in flight they developed the Alacran (its code number was: Condor IA-III). It had a length of 6,50 m. And a diameter of 0,56 m. This vector could carry a load of 250 kg., and would reach 115 Km.- The ogive of Alacran made of compound materials could carry a war head made up of a cluster bomb, which had 1000 grenades CAM-1, with a dispersal spoke of 2 blocks of houses.
This missile used the same fuel and had the same building characteristics as the Condor I, but actually it was an artillery tactic missile, of the chilenean RAYO, though more powerful and with greater reach. The Alacran was shot several times since 1988, including once by the former President Carlos Menem in The Chamical, La Rioja; it was even tested as a head of war with an ogive carrying submunitios.
In an article issued in the Air and Space magazine “Aeroespacio”, jan-feb 1990, that dealt about Fuerza Aérea and about the weapon systems that were being tested at the time, it mentions the Alacran’s compound-material ogive and of the head of war made up of a cluster bomb inserted in the ogive which carried 1000 grenades type CAM-1 . In the text it explains that the earth to earth rocket VT-561 (ex ALACRAN) was being introduced under the project name FAS-320.
It specifies that the full weight is 1532 Kg, with a 400 Kg load capacity and that at the end of combustion weighs 788 Kg (that means that it carried 744 Kg of propellant) and that it has a horizontal reach 120 with a peak of 40 Km.
Technical Data of Condor II:
CONDOR II, was a two phase vehicle, with a thrust vector control system that worked through levelling canon in each phase, aerodynamic areas to control the rolling in each phase, as web. A cold gas sensor package to control the altitude and a final speed control system. This is all controlled through connected-integrated computers.
The complete height of the rocket would be of 16 m. with a diameter of 0.80 m. The pay load would be of 500 Kg and a 1000 Km reach was predicted.
Although this was the military version of Condor II, it also was planned to make a modified version to orbit stall satellites adding another rocket in the third phase.
Apparently other examples of Condor II were completed, but were never tested in flight.
One reason for cancelling this project was a budget one, and it came to an end due to international pressure.
An important part (not all) of the equipment for developing the rocket was disassembled and sent to USA to be destroyed in 1993, in accordance to the agreements signed between both governments at that time.
Since then up to now adays there haven’t been any other official projects related to the development of rockets in Argentina. So all the technological achievements for peaceful projects has been wasted.
note that there is more info but its a secret of the government.
This photo is the tam,i already put it,but i like it,so,i put it again :lol: :
AIR FORCE PICS
One of the three operative dagger with the opened cockpit:
a guarani 2 on the andes:
BAE Camberra
C130
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(Glorioso regimiento de granaderos a caballo) Glorius regiment of cavalry grenadiers (they aren´t always riding horse,note that).They are the presidential guard too.
letter of the cavalry grenadiers
San Martín (Don Jose de San Martín):
Thanks to this man,southern south america isn´t now a spanish colony.
He left all he had,a secure life,and a long time to spend with his family for our freedom.
The following is a list of Argentine Army regiments and other elements, organized by corps and brigades to which they are attached. This list contains only combat units, and excludes combat support and combat service support.
Second Army Corps (HQ Rosario, Santa Fe Province)
2nd Armored Brigade (HQ Paraná, Entre Ríos Province)
1st “Coronel Brandsen” Tank Cavalry Regiment (Villaguay, Entre Ríos Province)
6th “Blandengues” Tank Cavalry Regiment-Training (Gualeguaychú, Entre Ríos Province)
7th “Coraceros Coronel Ramón Estomba” Tank Cavalry Regiment (Chajarí, Entre Ríos Province)
12th “Duque de Caxias” Tank Cavalry Regiment (Gualeguaychú, Entre Ríos Province)
5th Mechanized Infantry Regiment (Villaguay, Entre Ríos Province)
2nd Armored Artillery Group (Rosario del Tala, Entre Ríos Province)
12th Jungle Brigade (HQ Posadas, Misiones Province)
30th Jungle Regiment (Apóstoles, Misiones Province)
9th Jungle Infantry Regiment (Puerto Iguazú, Misiones Province)
9th Jungle Troopers Company (Bernardo de Irigoyen, Misiones Province)
12th Jungle Troopers Company (Training) (San Javier, Misiones Province)
29th “Coronel Ignacio José Javier Warnes” Jungle Infantry Regiment (Formosa, Formosa Province)
Third Army Corps (HQ Córdoba, Córdoba Province)
4th Paratroopers Brigade (HQ Córdoba, Córdoba Province)
2nd “General Balcarce” Paratroopers Regiment (Córdoba, Córdoba Province)
14th Paratroopers Regiment (Córdoba, Córdoba Province)
4th Paratrooper Cavalry Exploration Squadron (Córdoba, Córdoba Province)
4th Paratrooper Artillery Group (Córdoba, Córdoba Province)
5th Mechanized Infantry Brigade (HQ Salta, Salta Province
15th “General Francisco Ortiz de Ocampo” Mechanized Infantry Regiment (La Rioja, La Rioja Province
20th “Cazadores de Los Andes” Mechanized Infantry Regiment (San Salvador de Jujuy, Jujuy Province)
28th “Teniente Coronel Juana Azurduy” Jungle Infantry Regiment (Tartagal, Salta Province)
5th “General Güemes” Light Cavalry Regiment (Salta, Salta Province)
5th “Capitán Felipe Antonio Pereyra de Lucena” Artillery Group (San Salvador de Jujuy, Jujuy Province)
15th “Coronel Francisco Bolognesi” Artillery Group (Salta, Salta Province)
8th Mountain Brigade (HQ Mendoza, Mendoza Province)
11th “General Las Heras” Mountain Infantry Regiment (Tupungato, Mendoza Province)
16th “Cazadores de Los Andes” Mountain Infantry Regiment (Uspallata, Mendoza Province)
22nd “Teniente Coronel Juan Manuel Cabot” Mountain Infantry Regiment (El Marquesado, San Juan Province)
8th “Teniente 1ro Ibañez” High Mountain Troopers Company (Puente del Inca, Mendoza Province)
15th “Libertador Simón Bolívar” Light Cavalry Regiment (Campo de los Andes, Mendoza Province)
8th “Coronel Regalado de la Plaza” Mountain Artillery Group (Uspallata, Mendoza Province)
7th Artillery Group (San Luis, San Luis Province)
Fifth Army Corps (HQ Bahía Blanca, Buenos Aires Province)
1st Armored Brigade (HQ Tandil, Buenos Aires Province)
2nd “Lanceros General Paz” Tank Cavalry Regiment (Olavarría, Buenos Aires Province)
8th “Cazadores General Necochea” Tank Cavalry Regiment (Magdalena, Buenos Aires Province)
10th “Húsares de Pueyrredón” Tank Cavalry Regiment (Azul, Buenos Aires Province)
7th “Coronel Conde” Mechanized Infantry Regiment (Arana, Buenos Aires Province)
1st Armored Cavalry Scout Squadron (Arana, Buenos Aires Province)
1st “Coronel Chilavert” Armored Artillery Group (Azul, Buenos Aires Province)
6th Mountain Brigade (HQ Neuquén, Neuquén Province
10th “Teniente General Racedo” Mountain Infantry Regiment (Zapala, Neuquén Province)
21st “Teniente General Rufino Ortega” Mountain Infantry Regiment (Las Lajas, Neuquen)
26th “Coronel Benjamín Moritán” Mountain Infantry Regiment (Junín de los Andes, Neuquén Province)
6th Mountain Troopers Company (Primeros Pinos, Neuquén Province)
4th “Coraceros General Lavalle” Mountain Cavalry Regiment (San Martín de los Andes, Neuquén Province)
6th Mountain Artillery Group (Junín de los Andes, Neuquén Province)
16th Artillery Group (Zapala, Neuquén Province)
9th Mechanized Infantry Brigade (HQ Comodoro Rivadavia, Chubut Province
8th “General O’Higgins” Mechanized Infantry Regiment (Comodoro Rivadavia, Chubut Province)
25th Mechanized Infantry Regiment (Colonia Sarmiento, Chubut Province)
9th "General José Gervasio Artigas Tank Cavalry Regiment (Puerto Deseado, Santa Cruz Province)
3rd “Coraceros General Pacheco” Light Cavalry Regiment (Esquel, Chubut Province)
9th Armored Artillery Group (Colonia Sarmiento, Chubut Province)
10th Mechanized Infantry Brigade (HQ Santa Rosa, La Pampa Province)
3rd “General Belgrano” Mechanized Infantry Regiment (Pigue, La Pampa Province)
6th “General Viamonte” Mechanized Infantry Regiment (Toay, La Pampa Province)
12th “General Arenales” Mechanized Infantry Regiment (Toay, La Pampa Province)
13th “Teniente General Juan Esteban Pedernera” Light Cavalry Regiment (General Pico, La Pampa Province)
10th “Teniente General Bartolomé Mitre” Artillery Group (Junín, Buenos Aires Province)
11th Mechanized Infantry Brigade (HQ Río Gallegos, Santa Cruz Province)
24th Mechanized Infantry Regiment (Río Gallegos, Santa Cruz Province)
35th Mechanized Infantry Regiment (Rospentek, Santa Cruz Province)
11th Tank Cavalry Regiment (Puerto Santa Cruz, Santa Cruz Province)
11th “Coronel Juan Pascual Pringles” Armored Cavalry Scout Squadron (Rospentek, Santa Cruz Province)
11th Artillery Group (Comandante Luis Py, Santa Cruz Province)
601st Anti-Aircraft Artillery Force (HQ Camet-Mar del Plata, Buenos Aires Province)
601st “Teniente General Pablo Riccheri” Anti-Aircraft Group (Camet-Mar del Plata, Buenos Aires Province)
602nd Mixed Anti-Aircraft Group (Camet-Mar del Plata, Buenos Aires Province)
Buenos Aires Garrison (HQ City of Buenos Aires)
1st “Patricios” Infantry Regiment (City of Buenos Aires)
“General San Martín” Mounted Grenadiers Regiment (City of Buenos Aires)
1st “Brigadier General Iriarte” Artillery Group (Campo de Mayo, Buenos Aires Province)
Army Aviation Command (Campo de Mayo, Buenos Aires Province)
601st Army Aviation Force (Campo de Mayo, Buenos Aires Province)
601st Assault Helicopter Battalion (Campo de Mayo, Buenos Aires Province)
602nd Attack/Scout Aviation Squadron (Campo de Mayo, Buenos Aires Province)
601st Intelligence Support Aviation Squadron (Campo de Mayo, Buenos Aires Province)
603rd General Support Aviation Squadron (Campo de Mayo, Buenos Aires Province)
604th Support Aviation Squadron (Campo de Mayo, Buenos Aires Province)
Rapid Deployment Force (FDR) (HQ City of Buenos Aires)
601st Air Assault Regiment (Campo de Mayo, Buenos Aires Province)
601st Commando Company (Campo de Mayo, Buenos Aires Province)
602nd Commando Company (Córdoba, Córdoba Province)
(Units from the 4th Paratroopers Brigade may fall under FDR command)
Training Units
4th Mechanized Infantry Regiment (Training) (Monte Caseros, Corrientes Province
with the art of wikipedia!!! (i give the font,then you don´t shout :P) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Argentine_Army_Regiments
Are South American AT devices different to the rest of the world, or do the guys at the back jsut really wnat to scorch their chestnuts?
ARGENTINE TANKS THE YEARS OF WW2
Vickers M1934:
Medium Tank Nahuel D.L. 43:
Thread reopened.
Found this:
http://www.saorbats.com.ar/GaleriaSaorbats/BAA/fotos%20regimiento%20asalto%20aereo%20601.htm
and http://www.saorbats.com.ar/GaleriaSaorbats/EA/fotos%20ejercito%20argentino.htm
Hope that you’ll enjoy the pics!
Anyway, this site http://www.saorbats.com.ar/saorbats_frameset.htm have a lot of pics about South American armies (including Chile, Erwin!)
As Dani showed, the page SAORBATS is one of the best argentine military pages. You can find a lot of oficial information there.
Pics from Saorbats:
ARGENTINE ARMY
Bell UH-1 Huey. This model is being modernized to the standard Huey II
Armoured vehicle from the Argentine Army Infantry.
Argentine-made tank. The TAM is the first tank made in Latin America.
SAM system Roland, propulsed by a Mercedes Benz truck.
Super Puma used by the Antarctic missions, specially at the Marambio Base.
Thes ear only from the Army, I’ll send more from the Navy and the Air Force.
AUTORITIES:
The Head of the General Staff of the Argentine Army
General Roberto Bendini
HEAD OF THE COMBINED HEADQUARTERS
Brigadier General D Jorge Alberto Chevalier
Admiral Jorge Omar Godoy Head of the General staff of the Navy
Brigadier Major Eduardo Augusto Schiaffino
The argentine made TAM Tank: