Horsepower and firepower aren’t the only factors in a combat situation either.
Got an exam in the morning, next match up will be sorted tomorrow afternoon (UK Time)
And if they were, my money would be on the B-17G. One two… three… four… five six… seven eight… nine… ten… eleven… twelve THIRTEEN 0.50cal machine guns, and one, two, three, FOUR 1200hp engines.
Now if horsepowe rand firepower were literally the only factors, that’s gotta hurt. 
Horsepower and firepower aren’t the only factors in a combat situation either.
… :shock:
Especially if you flight in a P-47 that have enough of both.
Next contest will be done this afternoon folks - I haven’t forgotten it, I’ve been very busy
1vs2
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Ignore this, am leaving a template to save typing it out every time.
Ki-61 Hien (Japan) vs F2A Buffalo (USA)
Ki-61 Hien
Top Speed: 367mph (590km/h)
Service Ceiling: 32,808ft (10,000m)
Rate of Climb: 2,343ft (714m) per minute
Range: 1,118 miles (1,800 km)
Armament: 2x 20mm cannon and 2x 12.7mm (0.50in) MGs
Sometimes described as a cross between a P-51 and a Bf-109, the Ki-61 had the same destinctive nose shape as the German fighter due to the Kawasaki Ha-40 engine (a licence built DB601).
The Ki-61 first deployed operationally in 1943 in New Guinea. It quickly proved popular with the pilots, being very well armed and armoured for a Japanese fighter and proving to be a match with the US fighters it faced. The initial armament of four 12.7mm MGs proved unable to knock down the heavy American bombers though, and were soon replaced with two cannon and two machine guns. Small numbers were also built with either two 30mm or four 20mm cannon, although production was slowed down by the Allied bombing raids. The Ki-61 did prove to be one of the few Japanese fighters that had a chance of intercepting the B-29 bomber at the higher altitudes the American bomber flew at.
F2A Buffalo
Top Speed: 311mph (500km)
Service Ceiling: 33,000ft (10,100m)
Rate of Climb: 3,068ft (935m) per minute
Range: 1000miles (1600km)
Armament: 1x 7.62mm (0.30in) MG and 1x 12.7mm (0.50in) MG. An optional 2x 12.7mm MGs could be added.
Deliveries of the F2A to the USN began in 1939, with nine aircraft being delivered to the USS Saratoga. Only a small number of the initial production run ever reached the US Navy however, with most of the first batch sold to Finland, who used them until 1944. The next batch of F2s had an improved engine as well as some other improvements. For its time, the Buffalo was a fast and manoueverable fighter, but was kept in service at the front line longer than they should have been. The only combat seen by American Buffalos was at the Battle of Midway, against overwhelming numbers of superior Japanese fighters. The Buffalo suffered heavy losses (almost 75%) and was soon withdrawn to training duties.
The Buffalo also served in large numbers with the British, Belgian and Dutch forces in the Far East, where they also suffered heavy losses.
The Buffalo’s service with Finland was a completely different story - by the end of the Second World War the Finnish aircraft had shot down 496 Soviet aircraft for the loss of only 19 of their own - the best kills-to-loss ratio of any aircraft in the war.
No contest here
Ki-61
Hahahahahahaha! The Buffalo? Hein wins easily.
Fighters from two different generations.
The Ki-61 gets my vote.
Ki-61.
A Spit 9 LF would be in trouble.
as would a Tempest,
Any FW model including D9 and Ta152 would also.
ANy aircraft that Luftwaffe says ‘do NOT engage these below x metres’ is a scary piece of gear.
Mate, check the first page of this thread.
The Hien. I always try to account for generation gaps to be fair to both aircraft, but I think in this case, the Brewster was an also-ran. Not as horrible as would be made out, but still somewhat missing the plot.
The only country that have some sucess with the Buffalo was Finland only because it had very good pilots.
Ah…I though the Ki-61 probably win.
Kawasaki Ki-61-I Hei ‘Hien’ - flown by Lt. Mituso Oyake, 18th Hiko Sentai. Japan 1945.
Know what? I don’t care who was flying a Buffalo Americans Fins or Lapps- against the Zero it was suicide. The Finns never encountered anything like that and that’s why those crummy planes had a little more success. 
Clear win for the Hein then - am working on the next match up, so it will be up as soon as possible.
The P51 mustang cant be the best overall fighter… like many american machines it is usually overated and it wasn’t what all people think it was. I would say this:
best escort fighter : P51 ( because of range and performance at high)
best fighter-bomber : fw 190 G/A8 because of armament… at least 4 20mm cannons and sometimes more…and they could carry a 1800 kg bomb, armor ect.
best pure dogfighter: Spitfire, though the 109F is close behind and macchi 202 (though it wasnt produced in great numbers with DB engine)
easier to fly: FW 190
Most produced: BF109
Overall for example the FW would get a poor degree in escort fighter same as a bf109 (because of low range), the mustang would get a bad grade in fighter bomber ( they sucked in that same as bf109 because of the liquid cooled engine and armor), the bf109 would get a bad grade in terms of stability because though they were maniobrable, they were very unstable and difficult to land (because of the narrow landing gear).
So overall from taking in account all the variants of the fighter I would say that the FW190 and maybe the Spitfire were the best fighters. It is clear that all the variants of Spitfire were good, from MKI to MKVII so it had good adaptability… same as FW 190 A3 (excelent pure fighter, superior to spitfire mkV, FWA8 (excelent ground attack fighter) and FW 190D (excelent high altitude interceptor and fighter, and superior to P51B, D)… but for example though Me109F was an excelent dogfighter the 109G (70% OF THE total production) wasn’t that good… p51A wasnt good either, and its thin laminar airfoil was prone to cause violent stalls at low speeds… The Zero was good but japan failed to improve it so it became obsolete… I am not saying that I dont like American planes, in fact I like the vought corsair a lot, same as the Aircobra and Kingcobra, but sometimes the p51 and the b17 are overated…
jairogut, take a look on the first page of this thread.
BDL, where are you? :lol: :lol:
Just finishing off a 35 page Comms Plan of a Divisional Signal Regiment deployment for my course - apologies for the delay!