British Experimental Tanks

[boyne_water]

Did both guns fire together or were the able to fire individually?
I imagine there would be issues with the trunion alignment through time with the guns firing singley.Then again i suppose the guys who built it would have worked it out.

[tankgeezer]

@Uyraell

The funny part about that was, that Australia did actually produce a series of indigenous armoured vehicles, based on M3 medium components, particularly chassis and drivetrain. The best to emerge was a beasty called AC1 Sentinel, versions of which eventually carried a 75mm cannon as in the M4 Sherman, and a 76.2 mm cannon as in 17-pdr Firefly in a later incarnation of the same Sentinel. There was a Fire Support Version made as well, which at one stage carried a 25pdr, and at another stage carried a 105mm howitzer. The Fire Support version retained the rotating turret of the original Sentinel.
In addition, there was an Australian “home-grown” equivalent of both M7 Priest and Sexton, also based on the M3 medium chassis. Further to that, there was also an Australian “home-grown” BARV based on the M3 medium chassis, which unique vehicle still exists to this day.

Taken over-all the Aussies did a damn fine job of designing and producing the tank family they did, considering there was no history of such production in Australia prior to 1939.

By shameful contrast, New Zealand had nothing comparable, nor made any effort of note to do so.

Kind and Respectful Regards, Uyraell.

That may be, but you did have Burt Monro, so I’d call it even…

[Uyraell]

@Panzerknacker

A image of the TOG I, with a Matilda II turret. The superheavy tank an diesel-electric drive, not unlike some Mr Porsche designs.

Nor, for that matter, unlike some of the designs for the Char 2C, CharB2 Bis, Char D series, (and various other French armoured vehicle projects), that included electric transmission.

I suspect the French vehicles may have had a “cross-pollination” influence, to a reasonable degree. The chassis also bears a strong resemblance to that of the heavy Chars.

Even so, I’m of the view the TOG vehicles would be problematic to employ on a battlefield, in much the same way as the Jadgtiger (formidable though that vehicle was), was nonetheless problematic to employ on a battlefield where speed and manoeuver were necessary.

The point was made, in one book I have: far better to have taken the main armament of the Tortoise (the 32 Pdr AA) and put it as the main gun in a turreted tank. It would have been almost as formidable as a Jagdtiger, more manoeuverable, and a wiser choice than TOG series or Tortoise.

Kind and Respectful Regards my friend, Uyraell.

[leccy]

@boyne_water

Did both guns fire together or were the able to fire individually?
I imagine there would be issues with the trunion alignment through time with the guns firing singley.Then again i suppose the guys who built it would have worked it out.

From the little I have read about the AC IV with the twin 25 pounders were fired together to simulate the bigger recoil of the 17 pounder gun. This was so they could see if the recoil would wreck the tank and if the turret ring could take the force.

[boyne_water]

Thanks for the info.Ive seen a few photos of the Sentinal but very limited data on it.Cheers Leccy.This i why i visit this site not to post but to learn,

[Uyraell]

@tankgeezer

That may be, but you did have Burt Monro, so I’d call it even…

Many Thanks for that mention, TG my friend.
It is one hell of a good story.
I’ve actually seen that Indian as a kid, and have some vague memory of having at least seen Munro alive, if not actually have spoken with him.
In later years, I saw either the bike or a very exact replica, though I no longer recall where, or under what circumstances.

Warm, Kind, and Respectful Regards TG, Uyraell.

[Panzerknacker]

Nor, for that matter, unlike some of the designs for the Char 2C, CharB2 Bis, Char D series, (and various other French armoured vehicle projects), that included electric transmission.

I suspect the French vehicles may have had a “cross-pollination” influence, to a reasonable degree. The chassis also bears a strong resemblance to that of the heavy Chars.

Yes, yeas, that too, is just that I have more sources and books on german armor than french one, I should had plenty of both, shame on me.