The Medal of Honor was awarded to a guy named Cole for leading a bayonet charge while taking heavy casualties.winters was just awarded the Service cross i think
i v read the book and seen the movies. my favorite is lt. speirs and guarnere those are the real heroes. winters is the best officer no doubt if there where more men like thes then wars wil be overer much sooner
pir is parachute infantry regiment and 101st is the airborne division
easy company was lead by some great men. winters spiers compton and all the toccoa noncoms did the right thing in combat.
Work out the number of effective companies in all the armies engaged in WWII which ‘did the right thing in combat’ and Easy Company’s men are no greater than most, and less great than some. They’re just better known because there is a book and television series about them which informs people who aren’t even halfway serious students of or thinkers about war.
And, by the way, the past tense of lead is led.
Thems that know, know, RS, and thems that don’t …well…!
… know nowt.
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Exactly! I think Ambrose compares the men of E Co. to current members of the Delta Force which is a bit of a stretch. Yes, they had good leadership, and an unusual prick for a training CO, but there were plenty of units in the 82d or the 17th for that matter that would have been just as effective as far as US airborne…no one was chopped liver!
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I believe they were termed the 101st as a sort of false information, the intention to suggest to enemy forces that there were a great number of similar divisions. the same goes for the 82nd airborne too.
Masive fan of the 506th and have read quite a lot around the series; Donald Burgett has released five or so books focusing on the mant campaigns, as have Bill Garnere, James Hefron, Winters, Webster and so on.
Very compelling stuff, though it is worth remembering that there were thousands of other copanies out there doing an equal number of heroic feats.
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False information is no part of it.
The 101st division has roots in the American Civil War.
The 82 had theirs in WW1.
They simply evolved over time into what they are today.
The 101 is now Airmobile. The 82 remains airborne and combat ready.
My father was with the 506th, arriving right after D-Day.
He was wounded in Holland and returned just in time for the trip to Bastogne.
He was not E Company.
It is correct to say E Company is a big deal simply because they were featured in a book that caught on.
They were representative of every other company in the organization.
Paratroopers are generally better trained and motivated than other troops.
When part of your job is being surrounded you got to be able to deal with it.
They were gearing up to go to the Pacific when Hirohito gave up.
They then spent time a occupation troops waiting o rotate home.
They were transferred to the 82nd for rotation.
My dad had to switch patches on his Ike jacket, but retained his Curahee crests.
I still have this.
We used to have a lot of pics he took at a death camp. He had ill feelings for Germans the rest of his life.
Years ago, while a staff NCO at Fr. Bragg, I read an analysis of Airborne Operations and US Airborne Soldiers. If I remember correctly the qualifications for US Airborne Training (in WWII) were higher than those for Officers Candidate School.
The analysis questioned the cost effectiveness of large Airborne (parachute) Ops. Almost always very large casualties (again these men were arguably the “cream of the crop“), especially when viewed objectively in terms of accomplishing strategic goals.
I emphasize “Large Airborne Ops” such as Market Garden and Crete, even the Allied use of Airborne in the Normandy invasion was not an un-qualified success (only 6% achieved goals – over 60% of the men and equipment were lost on the drop). I don’t think anyone questions the use of Parachute troops in smaller ops.
This analysis was not well received in the Airborne community.
I’m sick of people telling me to “have a good jump.” A good jump is one that doesn’t kill you. Sgt Jesse Adams, 505th Parachute Infantry Regiment (character in “The Rising Tide”, by Jeff Shaara)
I think they did a great job in casting some of the others also. Look at Winters and the actor who played him. How about Guanerre? Great job in casting there also.
they actually have a website so maybe some of the vets who were there have some
Today, June 6th 2011, is the 67th Anniversary of the D-Day, like our Today’s Event reminds to us… I would like to share with all of you a respectful memories of all that men from both sides, that sacrificed their lifes in that corner of Europe…
[/b]There is an excellent black and white movie about the 101st in Bastogne. The name of it is “Battleground”, and came out in 1950. I taped it several years ago when it was on t.v. It may be on a DVD now, but there weren’t any back when I copied it. It is fiction, I beleive, but very well done and accurate in what happened.
I agree.I just watched it over the Memorial day weekend it was on the Turner Movie Channel.
I posted about that film here a while ago I think. It’s one of my personal favorites for its relatively unsentimental treatment of a combat unit under duress, its varied cast of characters, and its overall good writing.
I was 15 when “Battleground” came out in 1950. It was the first movie I saw in “Surround Sound”,(I think that is what it was called). Anyway, you could hear the artillery coming in over your head inside the theater, and I thought that was pretty neat back then. I heard the same sounds about seven years later when I was in artillery survey out beyond our pieces on Peason Range at Ft Polk, Louisiana. At that time it was only training with the 90th Infantry Division. :army:
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