We didn’t say you were Erwin, the protestants described above are the full spectrum of Protestent, available in all countries.
Bloody sunday was to do with the current round of troubles. As has been said, NI has been a on/off violent situation for centuries!!
It’s a touchy subject and has been investigated again and again by various organisations such as HMG, the British Army, the IRA and things like UN/IRC. It is being investigated again as we speak, by HMG.
From memory, the UK had a pair of SSNs parked off the Argentine coast to give raid warning, which no doubt helped. Source for that is We Come Unseen by Jim Ring, which has quite a good section on the Falklands.
And Ireland as a whole has been a problem for centuries before the Ulster Plantation. The UK has been involved taking sides in Ireland since about 1066, and for centuries before that the Irish were raiding up and down the west coast of the UK. St Patrick was (from memory - might have got this the wrong way around) a Scot who was captured as a slave by an Irish raid who went on later to convert Ireland to Christianity. The last 30 years of the Troubles are the blink of an eye in the history of Ireland, and not even an especially violent one compared to some episodes.
The predominatly German and Scandinavian Lutherans are also quite easygoing. There are some strict Calvinist communities in the Netherlands though.
German Roman-Catholics have the reputation of being quite rebellious within the Catholic church and are often critizising the Pope, e.g. on topics like celebacy, birth control, influence of lay people within the church etc…
Jan
I’d heard German Papists 
were fairly easy going, which makes it ironic that the current Pope despite being German is quite conservative.
Erwin, what to you know about the basics of Protestantism? No criticism of you, I’m just trying to get an idea of your level of comparative religious education. Most secondary school pupils in Britain get a basic grounding in all the major world religions and denominations and I was wondering what the situation was in Argentina.
My girlfriend is a Polish catholic and (despite the reputation as being conservative) I have always found them to be very friendly, easy going and thinking about it probably all deep in the shit if the Pope found out about what they’re up to. :shock:
Although she does come from Silesia where they dont count themselves as “real” Poles (nor do they consider themselves German, just Silesian). :lol:
They do go in for the pomp and ceremony, hocus pocus, crossing themselves at every opportunity etc etc but see it more as something that’s to be done rather than the fundamental fervour that some prefer.
Same for my girlfriend, who is a Catholic from the Philippines. She has no qualms about e.g. birth control or having pre marriagal sex.
But she still goes to church from time to time, and I’m sure that, if she would have been here in Cologne last week, she would have dragged me to the big mass with the Pope (whom I saw BTW, passing right outside my house on his way to Cologne airport)
Jan
I had an Irish Catholic girlfriend and I wasn’t allowed inside a UN monitored exclusion zone!!!
She was really nice though, until she went hosebeast and started talking about marrage and kids!!!
Funny you should say that he drove past my flat in Bonn (well a couple of 100m away) on the saturday morning on his way for a chin wag with the Bundespräsident (all the BGS Pumas hovering over the house were a pain in the arse at such a stupid time on a saturday, ie before midday) :evil:
and even if they are like that they often have other “imaginative” ways to please
thinks back to a catholic Thai bird in Frankfurt “sigh”
Didnt certain Ammo dumps and caches sport rather large red crosses on white backgrounds? or have I misunderstood this?
Dont you guys think this falklands issue has dragged on a bit to long, i mean i dont want anything to do with it but it is rather a long debate. :lol:
Interesting reading:
UN A/AC.109/2004/12
http://daccessdds.un.org/doc/UNDOC/GEN/N04/318/19/PDF/N0431819.pdf?OpenElement
Strangely, the flawed “continental shelf” (based around a deliberate misinterpretation of the 1958 Conventions of the Sea) argument does not appear… Wonder why?
You mean we should stop talking about a subject after a set length of time? This is the one of the few Falklands debates that isn’t actually a flame war.
I see no nastiness in this discussion - unlike others.
Healthy (& polite) disagreement leads to better understanding of truth.
I wonder what can be construed as war effort?
During WW2 both the Axis and Allies used POWs to work producing food etc on farms. Couldnt this be determined as helping the war effort?
Farming also supported the civilian population though and only indirectly aids the efforts of the troops - killing your own countrymen.
Building roads and rebuilding railroads are more closely linked to the ultimate purpose of moving troops about the countryside?
When you consider the “War effort” targets that we bombed. Farms and the like do not appear on the list. Is it not that POW’s cannot get involved in the war effort to the point at which they actively work against their own side… I agree its confusing
It is confusing, but on the whole I would rather have been the Tommy NCO POW that was allowed out every day to work on a Farm and interact with people than the Tommy Officer cooped up in the camp. Plus I suppose there was always a chance of a Sheep (did i say that!).
yes,but they are protestants.
i feel better visiting a country of my religion because it’s easier to find the church! :D[/quote]
So you’re not Christian then? You do know that just like Argentina, the UK (of which NI is a part) is Christian country.[/quote]
im christian
Bluffcove
Of course if they didnt want to be prisoners then they should either have fought harder or not stuck their hands in the air!
That is a stupid comment by someone who doesn’t know the topic of the conversation. Although they were prisoners, the had rights, supported by the Ginebra Convention.
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However, if they were used after the surrender of Argentine forces that would probably be OK.
Let me say you are wrong. They were used in the war. And of course, when the war was over too.
But this norm doesn’t exist. All prisoners of war are not under obligation of doing military support to their “catchers” never, neither when the war
finished.
From memory, the UK had a pair of SSNs parked off the Argentine coast to give raid warning, which no doubt helped
That is impossible. The Argentine submarine ARA “Salta” was patroulling all the south Argentine coasts since april to june 1982.
MAN OF STOAT
Sounds like some dodgy conspiracy to me. Provide some evidence of this from an independent source, and not just a blind contention
Are you joking me?? Try to look for these statements that I wrote, and you’ll find all of them easily.
FESTAMUS
As for US "support of giving us the use of Wideawake on Ascension Island… Ascension is a UK dependency upon which we allow the US to operate a base. We are doing them the favour as far as Ascension goes, not vice versa.
Although the Ascension island is british, the naval base is a NORTH AMERICAN base, and the allowed your military forces to use them.