But you are named “Albert Speer?”
Yes, Hitler did it first. And he would probably continued to do it if he could. But we know now that his bombings were miniscular in comparisson to the Allied ones. And Allies even braged about it.
We can defend it in many ways, but we have to admit that Allies (mainly UK) targeted civilian population in Germany.
BTW, how many North Koreans were killed in this horrible bombing?
I noticed that there seems to be no actual figures in the thread topic article, just a a lot of insinuations and assumptions by a hack, pseudo-historian writing in an extremist right wing, some say fascist, French newspaper…
I skimmed the article just now, and notice that his central point, that the US air campaign was “extremely effective” is fundamentally flawed, since the US air campaign was itself fundamentally flawed, and generally focused on tactical air support for UN forces, which varied widely in effectiveness. And also the interdiction of Chinese logistical basis in a more or less vain effort to cut off the Peoples Liberation Army “volunteers.” Though there indeed was some “strategic bombing,” it was no where near the level of WWII, since it’s sort of idiotic to use strategic bombing against an agrarian nation that effectively possessed no industry. And as for the whole “terror bombing” method, I think this too is wildly exaggerated, since I think there were few illusions that terrorizing North Koreans was likely to change their gov’t’s policies…
And perhaps both Chevan and Egorka can explain the fundamental moral differences between using napalm and thermite bombs, a weapon their own air force continues to use…
Yes, and the USSR would also have prosecuted strategic bombing had they had the means, and more than under 100 Pe-8 bombers and their priorities hadn’t been elsewhere…
So, just lacking the means does not make ones intent any less brutal, and indeed his was far more so…
But nevertheless, once the genie is out of the bottle, well, “they that sow the wind shall reap the whirlwind.”
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Thanks for that. It confirms the same versions I’ve seen.
In the last quote in your link, I think Marshal Zhukov got a bit carried away with 1960’s (his memoirs publication date of 1971 is the English translation of the 1969 Russian original) Soviet anti-American rhetoric with his statement that:
Without any military need whatsoever, the Americans dropped two atomic bombs on the peaceful and densely-populated Japanese cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki were about as peaceful as Berlin, which Zhukov pulverised.
Gradually military facilities increased and Hiroshima became known for its dual role-center of education and military base.
In the 1920’s heavy industries began developing in Hiroshima, and by the end of the 1930’s, these were also being transformed into factories for military production.
By the time of the A-bombing, the Hiroshima Bay area, combined with the naval facilities in Kure, had taken on a strong military character.
http://www.hiroshima-spirit.jp/en/museum/morgue_e11.html
[Nagasaki] depended heavily on the Mitsubishi Corporation, which operated shipyards, electrical equipment works, steel mills and an arms plant that together employed 90 per cent of Nagasaki’s workforce.
J. Samuel Walker, Prompt & Utter Destruction: Truman and the Use of Atomic Bombs Against Japan, University of North Carolina Press, 1997,p.80
The latter quote has just raised a question which I’ll put in the ‘Should the A bomb have been dropped?’ thread
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I/m strongly doubt that the average japane civil cities ( mostly industrial) were equal for the castle Berlin where fought about 1 million of emeny soldiers.
The Berlin was a last bastion of Nazy, centre of Germany and the place of fiercing battle for every house.
So indeed the Zhukov was particulary right . Certainly it were not a piacefull cities but the in those cities WERE NOT A ESSENTIAL TROOPS and the majority of victims were civilians.
Gradually military facilities increased and Hiroshima became known for its dual role-center of education and military base.
In the 1920’s heavy industries began developing in Hiroshima, and by the end of the 1930’s, these were also being transformed into factories for military production.
By the time of the A-bombing, the Hiroshima Bay area, combined with the naval facilities in Kure, had taken on a strong military character.
True, this was a center of “education” and near Hirosima really was a naval base - but that a pity - this base was out of bombing radius.The main target was the centre of city - not naval base of barracks in outskirts.
[Nagasaki] depended heavily on the Mitsubishi Corporation, which operated shipyards, electrical equipment works, steel mills and an arms plant that together employed 90 per cent of Nagasaki’s workforce.
Sorry mate but fromthis point yoou could justify whatever - mass bombing the peasants coz they produse the food for the japane solders and even the medic personal who treats the japane soldiers.
From this point my friens we could justify the NAzy mass crimes agains civils population of occuped territories - the brutal killing of peasants who feed the partisants.
I personaly i do not think the japanes who were burned in the Hirosima must be sentenced for death ONLY becouse they work in a plants of Mitsubishi Corporation.
By the way, do you know that Nagasaki was not the primary target for the bombing on that day? Kokura was the primary one.
Mate, we need to keep this Japan atom bomb stuff in the other thread.
I’ve been over in that thread for ages, slaving over a red hot keyboard dropping my pearls of wisdom of which the most recent was a comment about Kokura being the primary target and then, my brow dripping with sweat from my exertions, I check to see what’s happening in other topics and you’re doing this.
Yes, I know Kokura was the primary target.
Do you know why it was lucky even to be reached by the bomber?
I am not sure what you ask about.
I was being mysterious.
But as we are friends I won’t play games with you.
Shortly before take off, the Kokura / Nagasaki plane (Bockscar) had a fuel pump fail on the reserve tank of 600 gallons of fuel, which were thought necessary to get it home. They took off anyway, because the timing of their raid was critical in the A bomb program.
During the flight a red warning light came on, indicating a malfunction which, on some reports, included the bomb being prematurely armed.
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