How many own Military Surplus Weapons

Wow! Not only have you single-handedly disproved Newton’s laws of motion, you have also single-handedly destroyed the four elementary marksmanship principles. Frankly, if you are consciously “compensating for recoil”, I’m surprised you manage to hit any target at all.

I’m intrigued now. By “compensating”, do you mean “aimed low” or " flinched like a rent boy on his first job"?[/quote]

Aimed low.

I have shot both a Webley and a 1911. In fact the first time I had fired the 1911 I hit the ground because I over compensated for the recoil (I did what I would normally do for the Webley). I love how the 1911 handles

…[/quote] My bold.

The bullet will leave the bbl of the wpn before the recoil comes into play so will have no effect on where the muzzle is pointed, this is why manufacturers put those knobbly bits on top of them.
If you must aim off very low with the Webley then your wpn has been altered or damaged at some stage.
Either the fore-knobbly bit is too low or the rearknobbly bit too high. Ask your gunsmith to check your knobbly bits.

Should this not be the case then have the bbl checked out by a competent gunsmith, although at handgun ranges the damage will be eminently visible to an untrained eye.

What is/are dual 1911’s ?

I still don’t understand your “feeling of superiority over smaller and faster bullets” - how do you find this to be of assistance ?

Yet you say you were compensating for it. Are you getting confused ?
Compensating for recoil is normally a trait of those who do have a problem with it - do you have a flinch when you shoot ?
Take a course at a recognised trg establishment, it’ll work wonders on your techniques.
I don’t know which part of Texas you’re resident in, but a friend recommended the centre below.

Tim Oxley (Instr.), Texas Small Arms Academy, Houston.
Telephone 713-561-5335

I would say try the Thunder Ranch, but the cses are not cheap and I’m not sure if it’s the best place for you to start. (For either side.)[/quote]

I was told by someone (can’t remeber who, but it wasn’t on the internet) that the Webley is sighted for 100 yards, I don’t know if this is true or not, but I do have to aim below the target at 20 yards just the hit it.

Dual 1911’s means I have one in each hand.

I don’t flinch, I just aim a bit lower. I don’t even do that with any other guns I shoot, it’s just that I find it most effective to do this when I shoot with the Webley.

Sounds to me like your front knobbly bit is too short, or the load you’re firing is wrong. I would be very suprised if it was sighted for 100yds, since British pistol ranges are not that long.

I’ll look into that, I know it sounded weird to me too when I heard it.


Two views of my gun collection during the mid-1980’s. From left to right: Colt AR-15, Ruger Mini-14 (customized), Ruger 10/22 Deluxe Sporter (.22 LR), Remington No. 4 single shot rifle (.22 LR), Ithaca Model 37 slide action 12 gauge riot gun, Springfield M1903A3 (Remington mfr.), Lee-Enfield No. 4 Mk. I*, Lee-Enfield No. 5 Mk. I jungle carbine (sporterized), Ruger Model 77 (.308 Win., standard barrel) and Ruger Model 77V (.308 Win., heavy barrel).

Some have since been sold, but I still have the Ruger Mini-14, Ruger 10/22 Deluxe Sporter (.22 LR), Ithaca Model 37 slide action 12 gauge riot gun and Lee-Enfield No. 4 Mk. I* from that time. I have also added additional weapons to my collection since then. Some are shown below.


Colt AR-15 which I sold about 1986.


Ruger Model 77V bolt-action rifle (.308 Win., heavy barrel) with Redfield 3x - 9x widefield scope and leather cheek piece. Also Gurkha Kukri and KA-BAR knife. Sold the rifle in the late-1980’s.


Same rifle as above (other side view) with my Smith & Wesson Model 1955 revolver (.45 ACP). I still have the revolver, but have since changed the grips.


My Lee-Enfield rifles (photo taken today). Top is a SMLE No. 1 Mk. III* made at a BSA (Birmingham Small Arms, Co.) controlled company near Birmingham in Shirley, England in 1940, with 1907 bayonet (17 in blade). Bottom is No 4 Mk I* made at the Long Branch Arsenal near Toronto, Canada in 1942, with spike bayonet.


My Lee-Enfield rifles again (photo taken today). Same as above with slightly different lighting.


Top is my Yugoslavian made SKS Model 59/66 rifle with Russian steel cased 7.62 x 39 mm ammo. Bottom is my brother’s M-1 Garand rifle with eight round clip of .30-06 ammo. (Photo taken today).


Top is my Ruger Mini-14 (customized with folding buttstock, bipod, etc.) with extra 30-round clips. Bottom is my Ithaca Model 37 slide action 12 gauge riot gun. At right is my Smith & Wesson Model 1955 revolver (.45 ACP) with Model 1917 walnut grips and two half-moon clips of .45 ACP rounds. (Photo taken today).


Close up of half-moon clips loaded with .45 ACP rounds, 5.56 x 45mm cartridge, Russian 7.62 x 39mm cartridge, British .303 cartridge, and British Martini-Henry .577-.450 caliber cartridge (of Zulu War fame).

George, do you own a Martini Henry or just some of the ammo?

I don’t own any firearms but I do have a WW1 German Hand Grenade, the smaller Egg style, not the Stick Grenade

George, do you own a Martini Henry or just some of the ammo?

BDL, Actually the Martini-Henry round is a relic from my father’s old gun collection of the 1960’ - 70’s. He sold his Martini-Henry about 1978. Below is a picture of him posing in front of his collection about 1967. Top to bottom: M-1 Carbine, Model 1891 Argentine Mauser, Springfield 1903A3 (Smith & Corona mfr.-1943) and at the bottom is the Martini-Henry. Dad had sporterized both the Mauser and Springfield.

So, growing up I did handle the Martini-Henry, but never actually fired it myself. I imagine it had quite a kick. :smiley:

Here is a link to Atlanta Cutlery which has some Martini-Henry rifles in their stock.
http://www.atlantacutlery.com/WebStore/BrowseProducts.aspx?GroupID=&CategoryID=&SubCategoryID=&Position=0&SearchCriteria=martini&ActionSource=

Gah! Sporterising! :evil:

Gah! Sporterising!

I know, sporterizing is frowned upon nowadays. But back then and even earlier, it was a fairly common practice. :slight_smile:

Aye, the war was still a recent memory and rifles were more plentiful.
I recently received a MkIII* in a similar condition. :cry:

A quick question if I may George, on your Ruger 77 you’ve got what looks like a M1-C/D cheekpad.
Do you find it pushes your head a bit too far to the left when using centrally mounted glass ?

Aye, the war was still a recent memory and rifles were more plentiful.
I recently received a MkIII* in a similar condition.

A quick question if I may George, on your Ruger 77 you’ve got what looks like a M1-C/D cheekpad.
Do you find it pushes your head a bit too far to the left when using centrally mounted glass ?

Cuts, It was indeed an M1-C/D cheekpad. The M1C/D rifles did use offset mounts because of the loading system of the M1. The Ruger company did not offer a Monte Carlo style stock with cheek piece as was available on other makes such as Remington or Winchester. So, I opted for the adjustable leather cheek piece instead. I never really noticed a problem with it. However, I haven’t fired the rifle since I sold it in the late 80’s. :slight_smile:

I own a Ballester Molina .45 ACP, FM High Power Detective Model,
and wait for a FN FAL.
The Ballester Molina look like these
http://geviar.com/acces/stock/balles-pav-alzag-ejer1.jpg

I just have one, a 44’ Springfield M1 with a UC uncut bayonet that hangs on the wall over the computer. Took it out and fired it once…our ears rang for days. (have earplugs for next time…lol) I don’t know how our guys kept from going deaf. I posed that question to a friend of mine who saw lots of action in Europe (carried an M1) and he just shrugged his shoulders and said “we never thought about it”…lol!

Someone posted earlier about where to acquire vintage weapons and wanted to mention that the Civilian Marksmanship Program (USA) is great if you’re looking for an M1 or 03’. All their rifles are combat veterans (WW2, Korea), have been completely checked out and safe to fire. Requirements are minimal and prices are the best.

You have to wear ear plugs LOL CMP’s supplys are very low and I think all the 03,s have been sold