Jagdpanther at Imperial War Museum

Tight group of hits in that Jagdpanther. That was bang,bang, bang at close range.

As far as i know the first shell at the back by the engine disabled it (in the first photo), then the other three were banged in.

Well probably this is obvius , because it didnt have a turret so if it was disabled it was , completelly defenceless !!!

After very detailed searching, I have found which munition was used to knock out the Jagdpanther. :slight_smile:

I think you’re … Nothing else could penetrate panzers armor … :lol: …
But i am curius : what was able to shoot something like that … ??? Guess it’s not WWII weapon

The actual caption for this pic indicated that it was a round from the German 800mm Railway gun “Gustav” used against Russia in the 40’s an excerpt from wiki follows:

High Explosive

* Weight of projectile: 4.8 t (4,800 kg)
* Muzzle velocity: 820 m/s
* Maximum range: 48 km
* Explosive mass: 700 kg
* Crater size: 30 ft (10 m) wide 30 ft (10 m) deep.

[edit] AP Shell

The main body was made of chrome-nickel steel, fitted with an aluminium alloy ballistic nose cone.

* Length of shell: 3.6 m
* Weight of projectile: 7.1 t (7,100 kg)
* Muzzle velocity: 720 m/s
* Maximum range: 38 km
* Explosive mass: 250 kg
* Penetration: In testing it was demonstrated to penetrate 7 metres of concrete at maximum elevation (beyond that available during combat) with a special charge [2].

you may note in the pic that the driving band is pre-rifled so that upon firing, chamber pressures will remain in the safe range.

After very detailed searching, I have found which munition was used to knock out the Jagdpanther.

If a tank was hit with that the only tool you going to need to salvage it would be this…

Ha! very true my friend,that and a tweezer,(small tweezer)

Here is a link to a video showing among other things the Gustav, and Dora guns in action.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7IAD0g8Xgfk

I agree with Panzerknacker on this one.:wink:

The little spoon was quite graphic. :smiley:

Going back to ther original point of the Jagdpanther,

I have seen this Jagdpanther at the IWM in London, does anyone have photos of it from a) the cutaway side b) the interior?

I may be either a) being pedantic, b) mistaken? as i think the jagdpanther may have been disabled or immobilised rather than destroyed…

You can actually look inside this AFV (as indicated by the child peering in from the side on the second phot)

Certainly the interior as i recall didnt look like it had been brewed-up?

If you compare it to the Panther Ausf F turret at Bovington, that clearly has been destroyed (although not sure if in combat, or in post war trials?)

cheers
BD99

edit: I managed to dig out the photos ( I have included links from my own host, on the basis I could fall foul of oversize image posting regs):

IWM (sorry about the quality they were taken a few years back on a Phone!)
http://kampfgruppe144.com/images/Armour/IWM/jagdpanther/Jagdpanther-IWM-London-d.jpg

http://kampfgruppe144.com/images/Armour/IWM/jagdpanther/Jagdpanther-IWM-London-c.jpg

http://kampfgruppe144.com/images/Armour/IWM/jagdpanther/Jagdpanther-IWM-London-e.jpg

The Ausf F photos from Bovington are here (digi-cam);
http://kampfgruppe144.com/images/Armour/Bovington%20800x600/IMG_2033.JPG
http://kampfgruppe144.com/images/Armour/Bovington%20800x600/IMG_2026.JPG

800x600 and 3000x2000 sized (digi-cam) photos of this and other exhibits can be found here:
http://kampfgruppe144.com/Bovington_00.htm

If you would like to see the other (phone) pictures of the IWM Jagdpanther:
http://kampfgruppe144.com/images/Armour/IWM/jagdpanther/Jagdpanther-IWM-London-a.jpg
http://kampfgruppe144.com/images/Armour/IWM/jagdpanther/Jagdpanther-IWM-London-b.jpg
http://kampfgruppe144.com/images/Armour/IWM/jagdpanther/Jagdpanther-IWM-London-f.jpg
http://kampfgruppe144.com/images/Armour/IWM/jagdpanther/Jagdpanther-IWM-London-g.jpg
http://kampfgruppe144.com/images/Armour/IWM/jagdpanther/Jagdpanther-IWM-London-h.jpg
http://kampfgruppe144.com/images/Armour/IWM/jagdpanther/Jagdpanther-IWM-London-i.jpg

So what happened to the crew?

Not all tanks knocked out in combat “brew up.” Many are simply damaged, immobilized, or rendered combat ineffective to be driven out of the area by their crews. To answer the above question with speculation, those not killed by the overpressure of the initial penetration may have walked away…