KNIL (Royal Netherlands Indies Army)

Dani · November 16, 2007, 10:21am

jabu, ww2 related avatar is one of the rules of this board, so if you already drink your coffe, please change it.
Dziekuje!

jabu · November 16, 2007, 11:42am

Hi Dani,
to get to know me you pleasantly.
It puts my answer what I sended for George (private message) several hours this:
Hi George,
I understand. Agreement. But, give me a bit time I - will choose some interesting avatar.
But, this for me very heavy and difficult decision. I functioned many years on many forums from this only one avatar…:(:cry
All the Best,
Jabu

I mulţumesc de asemenea. I verde de la Polonia!
jabu

Dani · November 16, 2007, 11:51am

Well jabu, in your case Gen. Sandworm and Firefly will have a final word!

Cheers!

jabu · November 16, 2007, 12:03pm

Thank you,
best regards,
jabu

P.S. I am already Private First Class - nicely!

Firefly · November 16, 2007, 1:28pm

Hello Jabu and welcome to our site. In the spirit of the site we do ask that everyone that wishes an Avatar either choose one from our collection or use their own so long as it is WW2 related.

Of course you can have some time to choose one, that is no problem, but I hope you will find one in the next few days.

Of course there is no need to have one at all.

Thnak you for your understanding on this.

F-F

jabu · November 16, 2007, 1:51pm

Hi Firefly!

O’K. I will seek some interesting Avatar. And I will make exchange. Give me several days.

Regards,
jabu

P.S. my old avatar is also avatar to WWII. It is “Warlike Chicken”, image - mascot Polish unit from my family city: 41st Field Kitchen, from 22nd Supply Company from Plock City -

George_Eller · November 16, 2007, 2:28pm

Thanks and good luck in finding another avatar.

As I mentioned to you in my Private Message last night, you may incorporate the “fuzzy slippers” character into your signature that appears at the bottom of posts, but your avatar must be WWII related.

Best Regards,

George

jabu · November 16, 2007, 2:40pm

-Ay ser!
regards,
jabu

jabu · December 10, 2007, 11:01pm

Hi,
I have one picture the Solothurn S-18/1000 AT Rifle used by KNIL soldiers. Unfortunately poor quality. It will interest someone maybe…

regards,
jabu

George_Eller · December 11, 2007, 7:20am

Thanks for the pic Jabu

An image of a native soldier of the KNIL with Solothurn ATR - sent to me several years ago by Tom Womack who is an author and contributor to The Netherlands East Indies 1941-1942 website and forum.

http://www.geocities.com/dutcheastindies/
http://www.f16.parsimony.net/forum27947/

Image of an M.38 tankbuks from The Netherlands East Indies 1941-1942 website - weapons page.

http://www.geocities.com/dutcheastindies/weapons.html
http://www.geocities.com/dutcheastindies/M38_tankbuks.jpg

jabu · December 11, 2007, 11:00pm

Hi George,

nice photos,

regards,
Jabu

jabu · December 16, 2007, 9:49pm

Hi,
some interesting, but poor photos KNIL soldiers.
From Japanese book by Masao Fujita Mouhitotsu no Rikugun Heikishi. Kojinsha 2004. Tokio.

Soldiers KNIL which they passed already on Japanese side.
Officer KNIL examined by Japanese officer.

Regards,
jabu

George_Eller · December 18, 2007, 1:57am

Thanks for sharing those pics Jabu. I’ve never seen those before.

You may have seen the following already, but you may find some interesting pics on these websites:

Welcome to KNIL-history!
Koninklijk Nederlandsch Indisch Leger
Royal Netherlands East Indies Army
http://groups.msn.com/KNIL-history

Following photos from website: Het KNIL - Een Historisch Document,
Hendrik Engelen (1914 - 1984) Soldaat in het Koninklijk Nederlands Indisch Leger
http://home.wish.net/~mmann/fotos3.htm
http://home.wish.net/~mmann/fotos1.htm
http://home.wish.net/~mmann/fotos2.htm
http://home.wish.net/~mmann/fotos4.htm
http://home.wish.net/~mmann/fotos5.htm
http://home.wish.net/~mmann/fotos6.htm

Photo Gallery
The Fall of Java Island, March 1942
http://www.geocities.com/dutcheastindies/java_gallery.html

The Dutch Uniforms, 1941-1942 - (East Indies)
http://www.geocities.com/dutcheastindies/Dutch_Uniforms.html

Uniforms - Dutch East Indies campaign
http://www.geocities.com/dutcheastindies/uniforms.html

Photo albums of Dutch KNIL re-enactors (color photos of uniforms and equipment):

http://www.livinghistory.nl/component/option,com_zoom/Itemid,32/catid,10/lang,en/

http://www.livinghistory.nl/component/option,com_zoom/Itemid,32/catid,9/lang,en/

jabu · December 29, 2007, 12:24pm

Thanks George,

Shiawase ippaino 2008 nenni narimasuyoni!

Season’s greetings and best wishes for the New Year 2008!

Regards,
Jabu

George_Eller · December 30, 2007, 12:54am

Thank you Jabu

And Happy New Year to you

Hope you have a great year ahead in 2008

All the Best,

George

jabu · January 4, 2008, 1:22am

Dear George,

I can ask about help?
I look for on information about Bofors 75mm Mountain Howitzer used by KNIL.
I know: this type gun captured by IJA from Kuomintang and KNIL.
I know, this type howitzer market by Japanese: Type Bo, and captured by during campaign at Nederland East Indies. Some howitzers used by at Guadalcanal campaign (probably 11 pieces from Japanese 20th Independent Mountain Gun Battalion and 2nd Field Artillery Regiment). IJA captured by probably at least two versions Bofors 75mm Mountain Howitzer.

Dear George, maybe you know how many howitzers this type had KNIL at 1941?
KNIL used by two type this gun? Maybe only mountain version? You know which KNIL artillery units had Bofors 75mm Mountain Howitzer

I will be obliged for help.
I apologize, that I ask so a lot of.
I wish nice weekend,
Jabu

George_Eller · January 4, 2008, 7:22am

jabu:

Dear George,

I can ask about help?
I look for on information about Bofors 75mm Mountain Howitzer used by KNIL.
I know: this type gun captured by IJA from Kuomintang and KNIL.
I know, this type howitzer market by Japanese: Type Bo, and captured by during campaign at Nederland East Indies. Some howitzers used by at Guadalcanal campaign (probably 11 pieces from Japanese 20th Independent Mountain Gun Battalion and 2nd Field Artillery Regiment). IJA captured by probably at least two versions Bofors 75mm Mountain Howitzer.

Dear George, maybe you know how many howitzers this type had KNIL at 1941?
KNIL used by two type this gun? Maybe only mountain version? You know which KNIL artillery units had Bofors 75mm Mountain Howitzer

I will be obliged for help.
I apologize, that I ask so a lot of.
I wish nice weekend,
Jabu

Hi Jabu,

Thanks for the pics

I got home late this evening, but did find some information before turning in for the night. Hope this helps.

All the information and photos below are from the following website owned by Stellan Bojerud:

KNIL-History
Koninklijk Nederlandsch Indisch Leger
Royal Netherlands East Indies Army
http://groups.msn.com/KNIL-history

KNIL Artillery WW 2
http://groups.msn.com/KNIL-history/knilartillery.msnw

75 mm Mountain Gun M/1922 Bofors L/22 - 28 total

105 mm Howitzer M/1928 Bofors L/19 - 14 total

75 mm Field Gun M/1911 Krupp L/30 - 40 total

12 guns M/1911 were 1938-39 modernized with pneumatic air tires - (75 mm Field Gun M/1911-38 Krupp L/30)

75 mm Field Gun M/1917 Bethlehem L/30 - 50 total

75 mm Field Gun US Ordnance M2A2 L/40 - 12 total (2nd Bn 131st US Field Artillery - Texas National Guard)

When Krupp in 1919 was forbidden to make military equipment an order by KNIL for 12 field guns was transferred to Bofors in Sweden.

75 mm Mountain Gun M/1922 Bofors L/22
http://groups.msn.com/KNIL-history/knilartillery.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=4

28 bought 1922-25. 12 with 1st Monuntain Arty Bn (A I Bg) Tjimahi, 12 with 2nd Mountain Arty Bn (A II Bg) Salatiga and 4 with Depot Mobiele Artillerie (DMA) Tjimahi.

75 mm Mountain Gun M/1922 Bofors L/22
http://groups.msn.com/KNIL-history/knilartillery.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=19

Most of the guns were modernized with pneumatic air tyres. The Mountain Arty Bns were motorized in 1941 with Maple Leaf trucks. In 1942 at least eight guns still had iron wheels. This survivor in in Jakarta Mil Museum.

75 mm Mountain Gun M/1922 Bofors L/22
http://groups.msn.com/KNIL-history/knilartillery.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=53

In 1941 a 7th Mountan Bty was formed by Depot Mobiele Artillerie (DMA) in Tjimahi by the four training guns there. Those still had iron wheels.

75 mm Mountain Gun M/1922 Bofors L/22
http://groups.msn.com/KNIL-history/75mmmountaingun.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=88

Weight: 790 kg. 25 rounds/min. Max range: 10.500 m. Shell: 6,5 kg. Elev: - 10 + 50. Vo: 240-470 m/sec. This was a Krupp design taken over by Bofors in 1919 and later improved.

105 mm Howitzer M/1928 Bofors L/19
http://groups.msn.com/KNIL-history/knilartillery.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=6

14 ordered 2nd May 1928 for delivery 1st March 1929. 12 with 1st Howitzer Arty Bn (A I Hw) Weltevreden/Jakarta. 2 with Depot Mobiele Artillerie (DMA) Tjimahi. The last mentioned 2 were 1942 used for an ad hoc formed Section.

105 mm Howitzer M/1928 Bofors L/19
http://groups.msn.com/KNIL-history/knilartillery.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=31

75 mm Field Gun M/1911 Krupp L/30
http://groups.msn.com/KNIL-history/knilartillery.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=52

There were 8 Batteries equipped with this type of guns plus some in the Depots. Totally approx 40. Intented for horse-traction but could be towed by trucks with a max speed of 30 km/h.

75 mm Field Gun M/1911-33 Krupp L/30
http://groups.msn.com/KNIL-history/knilartillery.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=18

By loading the gun on a two-wheel carriage known as the Buquor Adapter the guns could be towed with a speed of 60 km/h.

75 mm Field Gun M/1911-38 Krupp L/30
http://groups.msn.com/KNIL-history/knilartillery.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=5

12 guns M/1911 were 1938-39 modernized with pneumatic air tyres allowing motor traction with 60 km/h. All these guns served with 1st Field Artillery Battalion (A I Vd) in Malang.

75 mm Field Gun M/1911 Krupp L/30
http://groups.msn.com/KNIL-history/75mmfieldgun.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=104

Weight: 990 kg. Shell 6,5 kg. Range 9.300 m (6.200 m w clockwork fuze). Elev: - 7 + 16,5. Vo 500 m/sec.

75 mm Field Gun M/1911 Krupp-Bofors L/30
http://groups.msn.com/KNIL-history/75mmfieldgun.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=368

When Krupp in 1919 was forbidden to make military equipment an order by KNIL for 12 field guns was transferred to Bofors in Sweden. Delivery photo.

Guncrew - 75 mm Field Gun M/1911 Krupp L/30
http://groups.msn.com/KNIL-history/75mmfieldgun.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=108

The gun commander, a Wachtmeester (Sergeant) standing left. Guncrew 6 men. 1st Field Artillery Battalion (A I Vd) Malang 1938.

75 mm Field Gun US Ordnance M2A2 L/40
http://groups.msn.com/KNIL-history/knilartillery.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=23

The only US ground unit on Java was 2nd Bn 131st US Field Artillery (Texas National Guard, Lcl Tharp). D and F Btys fought in Buitenzorg-area (W Java) and E Bty in Soerabaja (E Java). The Bn had 12 guns.

75 mm Field Gun M/1917 Bethlehem L/30
http://groups.msn.com/KNIL-history/knilartillery.msnw?action=ShowPhoto&PhotoID=24

From USA 50 guns of this type (US made GB 18-Pdrs) were sent to Java. They had no telescopic sights (were on anoter ship). Fitted with local made simple gun-laying devices these guns were used for coast protection.