Off topic- Quiz Section

OK we all know about the development of organo-phosphate nerve agents by the Germans during the 30s and 40s but which other country developed a nerve agent independently from the German work AND had significant stocks of this agent at the end of the war?

Name the country and the agent.

UK-VX nerve agent?

yes and no

V agents were first developed at the start of the 50s by ICI in the UK and Bayer in Germany.

The only nerve agents I’m aware of are the G- and V- classes. The V- agents all seem to stem from work at ICI in the 1950s, and I can’t find any references to any one other than the Germans getting G- agents before the end of WW2.

Best guess is that you’re being sneaky and the “significant stocks” are the German Tabun stocks captured by the Soviets. As to what the agent they developed is, would a mycotoxin like “yellow rain” count as a nerve agent? That’s the best I can come up with anyway - this question certainly seems to have beaten Google :smiley:

Edit: dammit, I can’t read - stocks of the agent they developed. Oh well, mycotoxins are still my best guess.

The only nerve agents I’m aware of are the G- and V- classes.

True but this agent tends to get seperated from both these classes, but is chemically similar

Best guess is that you’re being sneaky and the “significant stocks” are the German Tabun stocks captured by the Soviets. As to what the agent they developed is, would a mycotoxin like “yellow rain” count as a nerve agent? That’s the best I can come up with anyway - this question certainly seems to have beaten Google

Oh yes I am being sneaky but wrong again re Tabun the stocks of this agent existed before any Tabun fell into allied hands. Mycotoxin is as the name says a toxin and is as such normally classified as a biological agent. I thought it would be a Google beater. :lol:

Thinking sideways and backwards, DDT? It’s an Organophosphate (i.e. Nerve Agent) but relatively non-toxic to humans. Not sure on the country, but I would assume the US for production reasons. The UK certainly made massive use of it, and I’d be shocked if the US didn’t.

Thinking sideways and backwards, DDT?

Nope sorry, this agent was intended to be used as a tactical mix with sulphur mustard but as far as I know was never weaponised on a large scale and as soon as the G-agents were captured and found to be more effective was rapidly forgotten about although I have had to demil one shell containing this agent so they were around.

Hmmm seems to have people stumped this one (at last) ok now for clue time:

The agent in question is known by it’s chemical name (no jazzy codenames like the German stuff) or a 3 letter abbreviation.

It is to be found in Google (with a bit of luck).

If no one gets it by Monday I’ll reveal all (well give you the answer anyway).

Last chance :lol: :lol:

I know it’s not exactly a nerve agent but you don’t mean something simple like CO2 do you Fuchs?

IT was the US because they hooked my grandad’s ass up to a machine that stored the horrible toxin. True it would not kill you but it can burn the eyes and peel paint off walls. Those with in a 10 meters radius will leave the effected area immediatly. No wonder grandpa was to keen on the army. Poor guy just wanted to be alone with his puffs of joy. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

OK OK I can see we’re not getting anywhere here the answer is (roll of drums) diisopropylflourophosphate or DFP

The principle British researcher on organo-phosphate toxins, Bernard Saunders, did discover a nerve gas, known as “diisopropylfluorophosphate (DFP)”, but it was much less deadly than tabun or sarin. However, DFP could be mixed with mustard agent, forming a combination that was nastier and also had a much lower freezing point than mustard by itself, creating an effective winter weather agent.

http://www.vectorsite.net/twgas2.html

OK easy one now British soldiers are often referred to as squaddies where does this nickname come from?

Soft, slimy mud is called squad, we spend a lot of our time in said soft slimy mud, hence we are ‘squaddies’

That’s a new one on me and not the origin I have read, ok a clue it’s taken from an old English word that describes another group of people.

That’s a new one on me and not the origin I have read, ok a clue it’s taken from an old English word that describes another group of people.[/quote]

No idea then, that’s the one I was told :oops:

It’s not all that flattering either :lol:

Heres me thinking it was based on the common sub unit of infantry, the Squad. Now your telling me it isnt?

So are you asking for the origin of the word, or the unit?

Confused from Wilts…

I’m asking for the origin of the Nickname for a British soldier Squaddy

Although it has since been associated with “a squad” it’s origins stem from a slang word from the 18th C for another group of people.

ps Squad is apparantly also slimy mud as pointed out before, you live and learn, :lol:

OK, Squaddy, may be derived from Swaddy, an 18th century word for Bumkin.

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