PzKpfw V Panther....the best tank in WW2 ?

Interessting camo on a Panther Ausf. D - what are those black tubes at the middle of the chassis?

I dont see tubes, but it look like a ladder made from “L” profile laminated iron emplaced in horizontal position.

Another profile of Panther in winter cammo finish , this one is a command tank of the SS fighting In Poland 1944. ( Scan of “Panther variants in Color” v Waldemar Trojka.)

Thanks for that post, it is exactly the type of image I’ve been looking for!

Thanks for that post, it is exactly the type of image I’ve been looking for!

You were smart enough to ask for the picture to the exact type of member too :wink:

Well, I guess they beat the “sword” into “plowshares.” :slight_smile:

A great post splinter, excellent pics of Panthers in American service…

actualy I think thats a Nazy panther used in “Operation Grief (Griffon)” a fake M10 used by Skorzeny.

Thank you for using my work as a refference here. Next time please give some credit :wink:

here are some renders with the finished camo:
http://cobra6.deviantart.com/art/2-Panthers-with-splinter-camo-54326494

http://cobra6.deviantart.com/art/Almost-cracked-the-can-77121385

Cobra 6

I vote the panther, for many of the reasons listed. Also if anyone would like to see a very nice restoration in progress just type “Littlefield Panther” into your search engine and enjoy all the pics out there.

Also something to note on the breakdown problems, from what the guys say who work at littlefield, they find that some german equipment had been sabotaged most likely by the people they had making them. Bolts hand tight, debri in transmissions. What they get for using slave labor in some of there factories.

Added some photo’s to my album of the panther and other vehicles.

Panther knocked out in Poland. 2 shots of 85mm didnt penetrate the frontal plate but a 122 mm shot did go trough.

No the side turret Panzerfaust probably emplaced for the crew easy reach when they need to bail out the tank. After being hit with that heavy caliber it seems the german crew have no chances to use it.

These pic is from Berlin after the Capitulation.

for armor- no doubt the kingtiger because its very thick and its sloped that makes it double effectif

-mobility and relyability- the sherman with wet munition protection.

Speed- t34 and the first panther( later models are a bit slower, they changed speed for relyability.

-terror tiger (1) and the panther (king tiger where to few in numbers and were unreliable, mostly the airforce took em out.

handy- sertanly the sherman because there where more models of them and each has it jobs.

-power 1) tigers and js1-3 series
2) panther,sherman firefly capable of killing a tiger on 1000 meter with regular ammo an 2000m with special ip rounds.

  • t34 85 mm gun a bit weaker then the firefly butt still a very effectif weapon.

Germany should of made a fast tank/car with a powerful gun, not saying it has to be the 88mm and it should of been very light with a small profile. I think i once saw a variation of the kubelwagen with a big gun on it.

Fantastic writing about the turrets used as pillboxes, I’d heard of this but only ever seen a single picture before.

kubelwagen with a large gun ? never seen it howerver germany had the puma i gues id had ah 50 mm gun on it

The Puma is awesome! I want pics of the puma and accounts of it’s performance in combat! I want to build a real puma some day! I have a pic of a kubelwagen, i think its a 50 mm gun on it, it was used in Africa Campaign.

Hello :wink:

Kampfgruppe Peiper Panthers

Sincerly

Splinter54

Here are a few shots…

Thanks for the excellent info on great tanks.

But can any of you gentlemen post pictures that reveal the damage done to these tanks when destroyed? Post #98 shows what appears to be a hit. Are there other close up pics of damage?

What actually happens when a tank is hit in battle and the occupants are killed or wounded? I often imagine a small hole where the projectile enters the tank and then explodes inside. Is that the right picture? Confined to such a small space, are most of the men inside killed?

I ask for personal reasons for since my days in the Marine Corps and having to endure a ride in a halftrack ( I think that was the vehicle capable of forking deeps steams with several marines inside), and being 6 feet 6 inches tall, nothing in my experience gave me such a scare. I felt trapped and unable to move and thought of what it must be like for men in battle tanks actually in a battle.

Thanks, jimb

Hi! - it’s my first post on this forum

Just as a point of interest. The above pictures were taken in the area of Szczecin bridgehead (west bank of Oder river). The Turm was dug in to what was and is now a railroad embankment. And this is not a Pantherturm, but a specially designed defensive Turm armed with a PzKpfw IV H/J gun.

For those who are interested:
http://www.pomorze.zp.pl/index.php?strona=2&id=2&sort=&rodzaj=1&l=0&rodzaj2=4

http://www.pomorze.zp.pl/index.php?strona=2&id=3&sort=&rodzaj=1&l=0&rodzaj2=3

http://www.pomorze.zp.pl/index.php?strona=2&id=4&sort=&rodzaj=1&l=0&rodzaj2=4

I strongly believe you are not right with this one dear Sir - this is one of the series of pictures of Panzer Lehr troops in Normandy







The the farm from the pictures - present day


Lehr Panther from Panzermuseum Munster

Regards,
dist