Or we can paint rings around our 88s, or paint cans of spam on the side of our tanks…
Yes I am. It’s a result of having an Irish-Cathiolic father, bless him.
My mother was English, Church of England.
Our lent began on Wednesday 13 February.
My weight has reduced by eight pounds already, so I’ve decided not to take any more exercise for the duration.
Well… so what exactly does it mean for an ordinary Luteran?
I don’t know - have we got any on the forum?
Igor, pdf27, 32Bravo and others probably already know this. But for those that don’t…
I think that the difference between the Roman Catholic and Russian Orthodox Church observance of Lent and Easter has to do with the calendars used by the respective Churches. Roman Catholic - Gregorian calendar. Russian Orthodox - Julian calendar.
Julian calendar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendarFrom Julian to Gregorian
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julian_calendar#From_Julian_to_GregorianThe Julian calendar was in general use in Europe and Northern Africa from the times of the Roman Empire until 1582, when Pope Gregory XIII promulgated the Gregorian Calendar. Reform was required because too many leap days are added with respect to the astronomical seasons on the Julian scheme. On average, the astronomical solstices and the equinoxes advance by about 11 minutes per year against the Julian year. As a result, the calculated date of Easter gradually moved out of phase with the moon. While Hipparchus and presumably Sosigenes were aware of the discrepancy, although not of its correct value, it was evidently felt to be of little importance at the time of the Julian reform. However, it accumulated significantly over time: the Julian calendar gained a day about every 134 years. By 1582, it was ten days out of alignment.
The Gregorian Calendar was soon adopted by most Catholic countries (e.g. Spain, Portugal, Poland, most of Italy). Protestant countries followed later, and the countries of Eastern Europe even later. In the British Empire (including the American colonies), Wednesday 2 September 1752 was followed by Thursday 14 September 1752. For 12 years from 1700 Sweden used a modified Julian Calendar, and adopted the Gregorian calendar in 1753, but Russia remained on the Julian calendar until 1917, after the Russian Revolution (which is thus called the “October Revolution” though it occurred in Gregorian November), while Greece continued to use it until 1923. During this time the Julian calendar continued to diverge from the Gregorian. In 1700 the difference became 11 days; in 1800, 12; and in 1900, 13, where it will stay till 2100.
Although all Eastern Orthodox countries (most of them in Eastern or Southeastern Europe) had adopted the Gregorian calendar by 1927, their national churches had not. A revised Julian calendar was proposed during a synod in Constantinople in May 1923, consisting of a solar part which was and will be identical to the Gregorian calendar until the year 2800, and a lunar part which calculated Easter astronomically at Jerusalem. All Orthodox churches refused to accept the lunar part, so almost all Orthodox churches continue to celebrate Easter according to the Julian calendar (the Finnish Orthodox Church uses the Gregorian Easter).
The solar part of the revised Julian calendar was accepted by only some Orthodox churches. Those that did accept it, with hope for improved dialogue and negotiations with the Western denominations, were the Ecumenical Patriarchate of Constantinople, the Patriarchates of Alexandria, Antioch, the Orthodox Churches of Greece, Cyprus, Romania, Poland, Bulgaria (the last in 1963), and the Orthodox Church in America (although some OCA parishes are permitted to use the Julian calendar). Thus these churches celebrate the Nativity on the same day that Western Christians do, 25 December Gregorian until 2800. The Orthodox Churches of Jerusalem, Russia, Macedonia, Serbia, Georgia, Ukraine, and the Greek Old Calendarists continue to use the Julian calendar for their fixed dates, thus they celebrate the Nativity on 25 December Julian (which is 7 January Gregorian until 2100). The Russian Orthodox Church has some parishes in the West which celebrate the Nativity on 25 December. Parishes of the Orthodox Church in America Bulgarian Diocese, both before and after the 1976 transfer of that diocese from the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia to the Orthodox Church in America, were permitted to use the December 25 date.
In Northern Africa, the Julian calendar (the Berber calendar) is still in use for agricultural purposes, and is called فلاحي fellāhī “peasant” or sاﻋﺠﻤﻲ acjamī “not Arabic”. The first of yennayer currently corresponds to January 14 and will do so until 2100.
Gregorian calendar
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendarAdoption by Orthodox Churches
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar#Adoption_by_Orthodox_ChurchesDespite all the civil adoptions, none of the national Orthodox Churches recognised it. Instead, a Revised Julian calendar was proposed in May 1923 which dropped 13 days in 1923 and adopted a different leap year rule. There will be no difference between the two calendars until 2800. The Orthodox churches of Constantinople, Alexandria, Antioch, Greece, Cyprus, Romania, and Bulgaria adopted the Revised Julian calendar, so these New calendarists would celebrate the Nativity along with the Western churches on 25 December in the Gregorian calendar until 2800.
The Orthodox churches of Jerusalem, Russia, Serbia, Georgia, Poland and the Greek Old Calendarists did not accept the Revised Julian calendar. All these Old Calendarists continue to celebrate the Nativity on 25 December in the Julian calendar, which is 7 January in the Gregorian calendar until 2100.
All of the other Eastern churches, the Oriental Orthodox churches (Coptic, Ethiopian, Eritrean, Syrian, Armenian) and the Assyrian Church, continue to use their own calendars, which usually result in fixed dates being celebrated in accordance with the Julian calendar.
All Eastern churches continue to use the Julian Easter with the sole exception of the Finnish Orthodox Church, which has adopted the Gregorian Easter.
Difference between Gregorian and Julian calendar dates
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregorian_calendar#Difference_between_Gregorian_and_Julian_calendar_datesSince the introduction of the Gregorian calendar, the difference between Gregorian and Julian calendar dates has increased by three days every four centuries:
Okay lets get back to recommendations.
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1000ydstare
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General Awesomeness Medal
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Being Generally Awesome in General
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Everywhere, Everytime.
Seconded.
…- and most humble member yet:)
Triple concur!!!
By the way, Chevan is right. We have got to have a medal for humbleness.
I suggest we call it “Humming Humbleness” star or something…
Come on! “Humming Humbleness” - Am I good or what?
I volunteer to make the design.
1000ys’s humility is demonstrated by his failure to promote himself further for a medal after merely nominating himself for one.
Such humility deserves a medal.
Undoubtedly.
I also give a cent to that, just because i saw a, nearly three years old, thread with a ‘stare picture’ right on the first page of it - epic
http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2645
PS: Thanks to the forums bug one can play mouse
Got that taken care sorry for you all that missed the show.
Well, since no one has made me a spam-killer medal yet, I’ve gone about finding some myself!
Maybe the mods can have “kill” marks for killing spammers.
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Pdf27
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Site defense medal
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He is the only moderator triying to achieve some order to our forum.
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Here:
http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=6374
Seconded.
That would quickly fill up user profiles. Seriously…