So how about MP-40 and Thompson?

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#21

Thompson SMG

http://www.thebaronsden.com/baronsden/video%20files/Tommy%20Gun%20100k.mpg

http://mikesmachineguns.homestead.com/files/videos/tommy_gun.mpg

http://mikesmachineguns.homestead.com/files/videos/my_first_time.mpg

http://www.solantamity.com/Media/Movies/tommy[1].avi

http://www.theppsc.org/Grossman/Movies/Tommy.mpg

BAR
http://www.solantamity.com/Media/Movies/bar[1].avi

#22

Very good ones ¡¡, the rate of fire in the first video is impressive 8)

#23

That Tommy gun has some firepower!!!

#24

Yeah, that is a lot of lead.

The internal configuration in the MP40.

And other video this time MP-40 and a Grease Gun. :smiley:

http://media.putfile.com/Maschinen-Pistole-MP-40-y-M-3

#25

Thanks Panzerknacker.

Looks like some “Saving Private Ryan” style camera shots while they blaze away at the imaginary convoy. The MP-40 had a cyclic rate of 500 r.p.m. While the M3 “Grease Gun” (350-450 r.p.m.) had a slower cyclic rate of fire compared to the Thompson M1 and M1-A1 (700 r.p.m.).

The Russian PPsh was even higher at 900 r.p.m. - I once saw R. Lee Ermey blast some watermelons with a PPsh on an episode of “Mail Call” (on the History Channel).

http://www.historychannel.com/mailcall/

R. Lee Ermey of the History Channel’s “Mail Call”

#26

Video Clips from the History Channel’s “Mail Call”

Couldn’t find the clip of R. Lee Ermey blasting watermelons with PPsh, but they did have the one with him blasting them with the .30 cal Browning.

A4 (Ermey blasts watermelons with Browning .30 cal MG)
http://www.historychannel.com/broadband/clipview/index.jsp?id=mc_a4_broadband

Ma Deuce (M2 .50 cal)
http://www.historychannel.com/broadband/clipview/index.jsp?id=mc_ma_dukes_broadband

Sniper Rifles
http://www.historychannel.com/broadband/clipview/index.jsp?id=mc_sniper_riffles_broadband

Archive
http://www.historychannel.com/broadband/searchbrowse/index.jsp?searchtype=browsetvseries&mediatype=All&searchterm=Mail+Call

#27

Hehe, nice clips George :smiley: , I did wacht the Mail call episodes sometimes, I did not like the very superficial treatment that this tv show had with the non-USA weapons, aniway a good show.

Looks like some “Saving Private Ryan” style camera shots while they blaze away at the imaginary convoy. The MP-40 had a cyclic rate of 500 r.p.m. While the M3 “Grease Gun” (350-450 r.p.m.) had a slower cyclic rate of fire compared to the Thompson M1 and M1-A1 (700 r.p.m.).

I think that a more correct figure for the Thompson was 800 rpm.

#28

Thanks Panzerknacker.

I guess “Mail Call” can be a little on the light-hearted side, but entertaining nonetheless. :smiley:

On the cyclic rate for the Thompson, I checked four different sources and only 1 1/2 showed 800 r.p.m.

Here are the sources:

Small Arms of the World, 11th Revised Edition, Edward Clinton Ezell, Stackpole Books, 1977, p 587
Thompson M1928A1: 600-725 r.p.m.
Thompson M1 and M1A1: 700 r.p.m.

World War II Small Arms, John Weeks, Galahad Books, 1979, p 133
Thompson M1: 700 r.p.m.

The Complete Machine-Gun, Ian V. Hogg, Phoebus Publishing, 1979, pp 79, 80, 82 & 97
Thompson M1928: 725 r.p.m.
Thompson M1: 700 r.p.m.

Early prototype and M1921: 1,000 r.p.m - but was reduced to 800 r.p.m.on M1928 as Navy requirement on adoption of M1928 (US Marines).

The Encyclopedia of Infantry Weapons of World War II, Ian V. Hogg, Bison Books, 1977, p 55

Thompson 1928: 800 r.p.m.

Possible specs based on the above sources might be as follows:

Thompson M1921: 1,000 r.p.m
Thompson 1928: 800 r.p.m.
Thompson M1928A1: 600-725 r.p.m.
Thompson M1 and M1A1: 700 r.p.m.

#29

Well, I ve calculate the 800rpm by ear… that because I work with machine tools, aniway I think the this are the more correct figure.

#30

but MP-40 has a totally 32 bullets