The Tiger tank

I believe both tanks were actually modified T-34/85s actually…It’s somewhat discernable in “SPR” if you pay attention to the wheels…

Indeed, as Nick both are T-34s, the diferences of the hull with the T-55 are:

  • The T-55 hull is longer

  • The second roadwheel in the T-55 has a wide gap in betwenn, the T-34s ones has not.

For the trained is painfully easy to recognize the fake since the lack of interleaves wheels and the narrow tracks.

I found out those ugly replicas used in that movies a bit disheartning, It would be better to film using an actual and accurate vehicle in like a Panzer IV, III, a SD Kfz 251, those are more easy to get.

However no…everyone want a Tiger in his movie, even a false one, this is a good indication that despite the years this german heavy has not lost its charm, not even a bit.

Tiger 211 of s.Pz.Abt.503 in front of a thatched-roof farmhouse.

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This question might be stupid but i am going to ask it because i a little bit new in the tank staff .

Could a Sherman breach the front armour of a Tiger ? If yes from what range ?
Was any point that could hit from a Sherman and drive to the Tiger’s destruction
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I read that the 17pdr gun could breach the front armour of a Tiger I or of a Tiger II ?

I saw a picture of a destroyed Tiger I and in front of it two American soldiers . And beneath it was written that it was the first Tiger I that had been destroyed by an M26 Pershing . Could a shell from the 90mm gun of the Pershing tank penetrate front armour of a Tiger I ?

Man, dont be so stupid, there is plenty of topic dealing with The tiger and Sherman, I have a long topic about the Tiger tanks in this section, there is no need to open a new one with a question that has been already aswered several times. Use the search options. Is this what is made for.

Thanks . I didn’t know something about this .

Thanks again

No problem, thread merged…

In any case, the answer to your question is yes. The British 17 pdr. gun and the US 90mm could pierce the frontal armor of a Tiger. I also believe (but could be wrong) that the US 76mm M-3 gun, towards the end of the War, could pierce the armor provided it was firing tungsten AP shot. But the “Easy-Eight” Sherman would have been at a disadvantage as the Tiger’s 88mm out-ranged it…

P.S.: Here’s a nice site with a full chart:

http://www.fprado.com/armorsite/tiger1-02.htm

Thanks for this answer Nickdfresh . And also for the site you provided . And another question . Well i am sure it’s stupid but i am asking it . Was there any chance a Sherman not to be destroyed by a Tiger I ? From what i read is impossible but … So i’m asking

I have seen a concerning question found on http://www.freepowerboards.com/gworldwar2/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=19. Although I do not wish to repeat it, can anyone provide information. Please do not reply here, but on the website I provided. Thank you. :wink:

I dont know how high is your IQ but you might notice that there is already a BIG Tiger tank topic, there is absolutely no need to create another.

And is completely unethical to enter here and beg for answers for other place, if you sign in ww2incolor forum was with the purpose to participate in this site…or not ? If the answer is no, then you better leave.

By the way, I know the answer to your question, I know even the guy who is in the turret of the KT in the foreground , if you behave and post it in the correct place you will have a response, but no in this way

Lets keep some perspective here. Pk is right to question why someone would ask for posts to another board but its not exactly the crime of the century.

Nice little forum by the way…

Is not the crime of the century but is a bad attitude aniway.

thanks George for merging the two topics.

no problema mi amigo.

The above picture(s) says it all. Iron tip of the spear and a shaft of wood! a Tiger tank --followed up by largely horse-drawn supply and tow train! That was the Wehrmacht…

Oh, probably you haven’t seen those much more pungent pictures about ruthless fuel shortages back there in 1944, my dear Mr. Nickdfresh. Believe it or not, but sometimes even mighty Tiger I tank was used to transport sick and wounded soldiers to the provisory airfields, evacuation centers and field hospitals. This pretty blunted picture that was taken in the April of 1944 sufficiently speaks for itself:

Tiger I Krankenwagen, 1944

Factual, greatly uncomfortable position of the wounded soldiers is clearly visible – they are placed together with their stretchers on the back of the hull, above the engine compartment.

Tiger I – Heavy Tracked Ambulance Carrier, Eastern Front, 1944

Nevertheless, it can reasonably be argued that most human activities, those battle ones or otherwise, always do involve some degree of… improvisation. :wink:

Wow… nice picture there Librarian. I think improvisation was the word of the day for the Germay Army, specially in the Eastern Front, for example in 1943 the Group Army South used more horses than all the formations invading France in 1940.

Another “horseshoe and track” stile of photo, a rider delivers mail to a Nashorn tank killer crew.

Tiger 1 captured in the outskirts of Leningrad in late 1944, the towing vehicle is a turretless KV tank.

What the Tiger I needed was sloped frontal armour and perhaps a diesel engine. The latter takes some time to summon up, if you don´t happen to have a suitable one already, but I can see no excuse for the former.

I don´t know the stats, but I suspect that the 80mm sloped hull front of the Panther provided better protection than the 100mm near vertical of the Tiger I.

The knowledge of the benefits of sloped armour has been around since spears and arrows first met bronze, if not before. Vertical front armour in a new tank by 1942 was, in my opinion, ridiculous and inexcusable.

Vertical front armour in a new tank by 1942 was, in my opinion, ridiculous and inexcusable.

Agreed. It must be the british influence. :mrgreen:

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Good day.

Can anybody help me please?

I don’t know the Unit [can’t see the Tactical Number], but it must be in Russia [house forms] and the trees on the sides of the hull must be specific to a unit?

So my question now is:

The Tiger Ausf. H [Frühe Ausführung, Commanders Coppula] seems to have extra added armor steel plates left of the coaxial main gun MG and right to the gunners sights at the Kanonen-Blende.

Is that a field modification, probably some parts from destroyed russian tanks [?], or a standard modification for the early models of the Tiger? And to which unit do the displayed vehicles belong?

Thanks in advance :slight_smile:

The unit question going to be a difficult one because there is no markings visibles.

The other part is probably a field enhancement.