Exactly - citizenship! Only citizenship garanties to full spectrum of constitutional rights.
And yes, ALL Jews. We know for sure that at first ALL Jews denied citezenship. Then… we do not know what then. Constitution does not say any thing about that (I have not seen it as I have not read all of it).
According to the article 31 (Part XI) all the foreigners and non-citizens remain subject to the same laws as Ukrainain citizens.
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Yes, that is right. Jews were very overepresented in the punitive and bureaucratic structures (up to 40%). But they were far from being the only ones. So while others would get citizenship, the Jews would be denied.
Jews made up only 3% of the population of Ukraine. Let’s deduct Jewish children and teenagers, old people, many women.
We’ll receive that these 40% of Jews in the punitive and bureaucratic structures embraced nearly all the adult male Jews of the country.
Kato, why do not you translate the whole article 31, part XI so that we all can see what it sais? Please.
All of Jewish adult males? You think that all Jewish adult males on the territory of Ukraine were either in NKVD or in the Bureacratic position? Sound very unlikely to me…
Can you reffer to anything except your personal opinion, please. What is your source?
I know where my info about 40% comes from.
My grand-grandmother was a Jew from town Nikolaev. I can assure you that except one of her sisters, who was involved in the revolution and later in punitives organs, none other members were involved in anything like that.
Not Jewish people Kato:D
This worlds mean the Jude.
This was a tupical characteristic of all of Jews in the all Nazy oriented “documents and constitutions”
So the your grandmather sister had organised the Holodomore in Ukraine?!!!
Coz as Kato assert - it were the Jews and Moskali who was ONLY responsible for the famine;)
They specially killed the poor Ukrainians.
Not Jewish people Kato
This words mean the Jude.
This was a tupical characteristic of all of Jews in the all Nazy oriented “documents and constitutions”
That word was the only one that signified a Jew in the Ukrainian language at that time.
By the way, the word with the same root is used as the only word to denote a Jew in the modern Hungarian language without bearing any negative meaning.
Kato the word Jude has become the a international already in many languages from an ancient times.
In Germans and in English as well as and in any European language.
The correct meaning of the Ukrainian “Жид” is the Jude , not Jew.
And i think you rather wrong to assume the Jude has the no nagative meaning today.
Just try to call the some of Jewish person as the Jude - and i will learn a much about themself;)
The correct meaning of the Ukrainian “Жид” is the Jude , not Jew.
The correct meaning of the Ukrainian “Жид” was a Jew just because there was no other words that meant a Jew.
This worlds mean the Jude.
This was a tupical characteristic of all of Jews in the all Nazy oriented “documents and constitutions”
How would you say Jew in German then?
And i think you rather wrong to assume the Jude has the no nagative meaning today.
Actually we are talking about 1939.
Today the word Jew that sounds like [jido] in the modern Hungarian language does not have any negative connotations.
So your remark about Nazi styles is not to the point and proves nothing.
I do not think she was involved in Holodomor. I beleive by then she moved to Moscow. But I can not be sure.
As I remember she was a state procecutor and was in “Troika”. I guess you know what it means.
Oh mate she was a great boss;)
She could easy shot the any Ukraine nationalists:) as a fascist element.
Its strange but why so many Ukrainian nationalists still alive:)
Ok, I guess I have to do all the work here…
Part XI
Article 31
The foreigners residing on the territory of Ukraine state except the persons possessing the exterritorial status, are subject to the laws of Ukraine as the Ukrainian citezens. They [foreigners] do not share the political rights of the citizens, but share all other rights, excluding those rights outlined by special laws.
As I said before only citizenship proves complete set of rights in a country.
Baisicly the Article 31, part XI states that the foreigners have the same obligations to follow the laws but their rights are limited inorder to minimise their political influence in the local society.
Plus it is reffering to other special laws like f.x. special law about the Jews by birth, who are not given the full spectrum of political rights though they were inborn in the country.
Have not read it my self, but maybe someone would be interested:
“Cold War Allies: The Origins of the CIA’s Relationship with Ukrainian Nalionalists.”
Here are the pages scans: http://novoross-73.livejournal.com/38008.html
Thank you very much for posting it.
It was interesting for me to learn about the US intelligence services’ view on the Ukrainian resistance.
i never heard of this im part ukrianin this is interesting