Where and when is it?

Mussolini might have survived if Italian partisans had been sufficiently patriotic to stick to Italian weapons.

On April 28, 1945, Mussolini and his mistress Clara Petacci, were arrested again by Italian partisans by Lake Como. Walter Audisio (1909-1973), who was once pardoned by Mussolini for a jail term in 1934, took custody of Mussolini and Petacci. Mussolini, realizing he was going to killed, opened up his shirt and asked to be shot in the chest. Audisio complied and attempted to shoot the pair with an Italian submachine gun, but it would not fire. He then pulled out an Italian pistol and again it would not fire. In desperation he grabbed a French weapon, a MAS 7.65, from a fellow partisan and killed them both. Their bodies were strung upside down the next day for all to see.
http://www.comandosupremo.com/Mussolini.html

This might be a bit too obscure even for Australians, so feel free to ask for clues.

Could this be the would be prisoners of the Sandakan death march that saw the death of over 2000 Australian and British troops? Just a wild guess useing the name of the picture as a clue…

Yep.

I am an idiot. I went to the trouble of removing the Australian War Memorial identifying data from the bottom of the picture and forgot to rename the photo.

The men third, fourth and fifth from the left are three of the six Australian POWs who survived. None of the British POWs survived.

Your turn.

For general info on Sandakan survivors.

Detail on the earlier picture. http://cas.awm.gov.au/photograph/OG3553

Different kind of torture for Sandakan survivors

By Alan Ramsey
August 6, 2003

Keith Botterill, a Katoomba textile printer, was 19 when he enlisted in the army at Sydney’s Victoria Barracks on August 7, 1941. Six months later, after the fall of Singapore, Botterill was a prisoner of the Japanese in Changi.

In July 1942 he was shipped to the Sandakan POW camp in North Borneo. Somehow he would survive the next three years. He would also survive the infamous Sandakan death marches in January-February and May-June, 1945.

Volume four of the official war histories says, at page 604, that “some 2500 British and Australian prisoners” died at Sandakan, Ranua or during the 100-kilometre death marches between the two. The exact number, as recorded by the Australian War Memorial, is 2428 “known” dead: 1787 Australians and 641 Brits. Botterill was one of only six POWs, all Australians, who survived.

Botterill’s is a remarkable story. So is that of the other five Sandakan survivors. Gunner Owen Campbell, a Brisbane labourer aged 24 when he enlisted in 1940, was picked up near Ranua by an Allied guerilla party in July 1945 after almost 3 years of captivity, beatings, starvation and illness. A second guerilla party found four others a month later. They had escaped after a friendly Japanese guard warned them that all surviving POWs at Ranua were to be shot. Botterill was one of the four.

The other three were: Private Nelson Short, of Enfield, Sydney, aged 22 when he enlisted on July 11, 1940; Lance-Bombardier Bill Moxham, a 28-year-old station overseer from Toongabbie, NSW; and Warrant Officer Bill Sticpewich, a meat inspector from Wickham, NSW, the leader of the escape group. The sixth Sandakan survivor was Bombardier James Richard Braithwaite, of Brisbane, 23 when he enlisted in June 1940, who would later write of Sandakan in the journal Stand-To.

Braithwaite had escaped from Ranua on June 8, 1945, and was rescued a week later by an American PT boat. The official war history records: “These six men were the only survivors of some 2500 British and Australian prisoners at Sandakan after the transfer of their officers to Kuching [in September 1942] … All were dead by August 15 [1945].” Three weeks earlier, when Sticpewich, Botterill, Short and Moxham slipped away from Ranua camp, “only 32 were then alive, six of them unconscious”.

Half a century later, in her book Sandakan: A Conspiracy of Silence, a terrible story of official obfuscation over an aborted proposal to liberate the Sandakan POWs in early 1945, author Lynette Silver records what happened to all six Sandakan survivors. Sticpewich, after living through the worst of POW bestiality for three years, was knocked down and killed in Melbourne in 1977 “while crossing the road”.

Moxham, who “thrived on living dangerously” before the war was “so profoundly affected” by his POW years that he committed suicide in 1961, not yet 50. Braithwaite died of cancer in 1986. Short did not survive a heart attack in 1995. Botterill lived to see Silver complete her book before dying of emphysema on the eve of Australia Day 1997. At the time of publication, Campbell, the last of the Sandakan Six, was a recluse. He died a month ago.

It is a melancholy closure to a terrible period of Australia’s military history. Silver records in her book: "The POWs, sent from Singapore in 1942-43 to work on airfield construction, endured frequent beatings and other, more diabolical punishment. Many died of malnutrition, maltreatment and disease. In 1945, in response to an order from the Japanese High Command that no prisoners were to survive the war, those still able to walk were sent on a series of death marches into the interior. In late 1944 the Allies, aware that POWs were being ‘eliminated’, had evolved a plan for their rescue - a rescue which, after months of bungling, was finally cancelled in April 1945 in the erroneous belief the Sandakan camp had been evacuated.

“Gross incompetence was to blame for the failed attempt. When it was realised that mistakes and stupidity were responsible, those at the highest level shifted the blame before embarking on a policy of wilful and deliberate suppression.”

At Sydney’s Burwood Park three days ago a commemoration ceremony was held at the Sandakan Memorial and its roll of honour, dedicated by the Keating government 10 years ago. The ceremony got four paragraphs in this newspaper the following morning. I thought you should have a thumb sketch of the terrible history behind those four paragraphs.
http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/08/05/1060064186644.html

Very interesting.
6 out of 3069… Incredible and terrible!

After much difficulty of trying to find and decide on photo here is my offer,good luck
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Well, after much thought, I’ve narrowed it down to something involving the Japanese. :wink: :smiley:

Which puts it somewhere between India, Hawaii, the Aleutians, Australia and Guadalcanal.

Care to narrow it down a bit? :smiley:

Is the man in the white important?

(I don’t think he’s Wainwright.)

I thought it was about time to post a clue, but I have been wondering off looking for Battle of the Bulge pictures for the photo section lately with my time.Well the individuals are not named in the photo but Wainwrigth puts you spot on for these surrendering Americans.

Is that Wainwright in the white?

It doesn’t look like other pictures I found of him.

Wainwright is not pictured, but was in command at this time of surrender :wink:

Did I loose you RS? I thought you were going in the right direction mentioning Wainwright.Wainwright and surrender key words along with new clue the rock.

So it’s Corregidor, but I can’t recognise anyone in the picture or work out its significance.

Ya no one is named in the picture.I found the picture using google images,surrender of Corregidor are the key words for this image to pop up.When you mentioned Wainwright I tried to lead you to the answer,but the rock did it.Your up.

Thanks.

I don’t deserve it as you spoon fed me all the way, but here goes for something different.

And it ain’t a Christmas turkey!

This looks like WWI famous pigeon “Cher Ami” who saved the lives of the 77th ID.This picture shows the left leg missing but it was the right.This picture is transposed.

Correctomundo!

Your turn.

P.S. This isn’t the rudeerude and RS show. Anyone else is welcome to have a go at answering the questions.

I have to admit RS I am a former pigeon fancier.I used to raise and race racing/homing/carrier pigeons.A bird can do 600 miles in a day with favorable weather conditions.I’ve experienced these type of races.So a few other famous birds from WWII G.I Joe and Paddy.I still need to find a picture,but for others here is some info on “Cher Ami”

Probably the most famous of all the carrier pigeons was one named Cher Ami, two French words meaning “Dear Friend”. Cher Ami was several months on the front lines during the Fall of 1918. He flew 12 important missions to deliver messages. Perhaps the most important was the message he carried on October 4, 1918.

Mr. Charles Whittlesey was a lawyer in New York, but when the United States called for soldiers to help France regain its freedom, Whittlesey joined the Army and went to Europe to help. He was made the commander of a battalion of soldiers in the 77th Infantry Division, known as “The Liberty Division” because most of the men came from New York and wore a bright blue patch on their shoulders that had on it the STATUE OF LIBERTY.

On October 3, 1918 Major Whittlesey and more than 500 men were trapped in a small depression on the side of the hill. Surrounded by enemy soldiers, many were killed and wounded in the first day. By the second day only a little more than 200 men were still alive or unwounded.

Major Whittlesey sent out several pigeons to tell his commanders where he was, and how bad the trap was. The next afternoon he had only one pigeon left, Cher Ami.

During the afternoon the American Artillery tried to send some protection by firing hundreds of big artillery rounds into the ravine where the Germans surrounded Major Whittlesey and his men. Unfortunately, the American commanders didn’t know exactly where the American soldiers were, and started dropping the big shells right on top of them. It was a horrible situation that might have resulted in Major Whittlesey and all his men getting killed–by their own army.

Major Whittlesey called for his last pigeon, Cher Ami. He wrote a quick and simple note, telling the men who directed the artillery guns where the Americans were located and asking them to stop. The note that was put in the canister on Cher Ami’s left leg simply said:

"We are along the road parallel to 276.4.
"Our own artillery is dropping a barrage directly on us.
“For heaven’s sake, stop it.”

As Cher Ami tried to fly back home, the Germans saw him rising out of the brush and opened fire. For several minutes, bullets zipped through the air all around him. For a minute it looked like the little pigeon was going to fall, that he wasn’t going to make it. The doomed American infantrymen were crushed, their last home was plummeting to earth against a very heavy attack from German bullets.

Somehow Cher Ami managed to spread his wings and start climbing again, higher and higher beyond the range of the enemy guns. The little bird flew 25 miles in only 25 minutes to deliver his message. The shelling stopped, and more than 200 American lives were saved…all because the little bird would never quit trying.

On his last mission, Cher Ami was badly wounded. When he finally reached his coop, he could fly no longer, and the soldier that answered the sound of the bell found the little bird laying on his back, covered in blood. He had been blinded in one eye, and a bullet had hit his breastbone, making a hole the size of a quarter. From that awful hole, hanging by just a few tendons, was the almost severed leg of the brave little bird. Attached to that leg was a silver canister, with the all-important message. Once again, Cher Ami wouldn’t quit until he had finished his job.

Cher Ami became the hero of the 77th Infantry Division, and the medics worked long and hard to patch him up. When the French soldiers that the Americans were fighting to help learned they story of Cher Ami’s bravery and determination, they gave him one of their own country’s great honors. Cher Ami, the brave carrier pigeon was presented a medal called the French Croix de guerre with a palm leaf.

Though the dedicated medics saved Cher Ami’s life, they couldn’t save his leg. The men of the Division were careful to take care of the little bird that had saved 200 of their friends, and even carved a small wooden leg for him. When Cher Ami was well enough to travel, the little one-legged hero was put on a boat to the United States. The commander of all of the United States Army, the great General John J. Pershing, personally saw Cher Ami off as he departed France.

Back in the United States the story of Cher Ami was told again and again. The little bird was in the newspapers, magazines, and it seemed that everyone knew his name. He became one of the most famous heroes of World War I.

Well here is my offer,good luck

Well, here is my demonstration of my photo interpretation skills, and I’ll need all the luck I can get. :smiley:

The man at rear left looks like an American soldier.

The man second from right looks like he has a rather nasty broken arm related to other chest or shoulder injuries. Or he has an abnormally wide chest on his left which has been penetrated by a rather large shell which failed to explode and caused necrosis of the surrounding tissue which, unusually, went white instead of black. :smiley:

The leather coats on the latter man and the man front left look rather European.

The ground is wet, indicating winter or, of course, rain in the other three seasons.

From all this I deduce that I have no idea what it is all about, but I’m guessing that it’s somewhere in Europe towards or perhaps after (the man front left looks like he has a mix of German officer’s leather coat and civilian clothing) the end of the war and that the man with the cast is either a captured German or an Allied serviceman - probably airman, but don’t ask me why I think that- of some note.