A complete myth that has been dispelled on many levels. Hitler would alternately praise and then despise the British, he certainly had no great love for them and the premise is idiotic. The notion is based on a few speeches Hitler gave but makes no sense and is based on nothing he said or did during the battle. Secondly, the Halt! Order originated with Rundstedt, and was backed by most of the OKW based on their lack of knowledge on the tactical situation and lack of concrete information. If you want a country to sue for peace and negotiate, why the **** would you let the only well trained, experienced portion of their land forces escape?
Hey, it’s hard to explain many of the things the Germans did in WW2. By the time of Dunkirk, Hitler already had a lot of Europe in the bag, so letting some enemy troops get away to an island where he could finish them off if they didn’t surrender was not to my mind really such a farfetched idea.
The Brits used for military purposes civilian transport ships, the reason for the sinking this could be
Anyway Hitler not planned to attack France, or England before 1939
France and England attack Germany because the Germans moved into Poland to recapture old territories like Danzig (now Gdansk) which was part of the German empire, and by the Versailles Peace Treaty unlawfully handed over to the Poles after WW1 in 1920 (not to mention the dismemberment of Austro-Hungarian monarchy)
Danzig was a German city, almost 100% of the population of germans consisted at that time after Versailles Germany lost 6 million german citizen
From 1939 until 1941 Hitler constantly sought to end the war between England and Germany, but Churchill wanted to continue the war and rejected any peace treaty from Hitler
France and England attacked Germany? Good grief, where did you get your information? No that is not what happened. When Hitler forced the annexation of the remaining part of Czechoslovakia after he got the Sudetenland, England finally realized that Hitler was not going to be able to be appeased any longer and they would finally have to stand up to him. The whole thing was set in motion by the evil Hitler, not the British or the French. Hitler wanted a war by any means and he finally got what he wanted which led to his complete demise with him cowering in a bunker in Berlin while Russian artillery rained down all around.
Your informations is wrong about ww2 my friend, England declared war on Germany (September 3, 1939, 11 a.m.) a few hours later France also declared war on Germany (September 3, 1939, 5 p.m.)
Hitler only wants back the separated German territorries what Versailles take away from Germany like the Ruhr Area or the Sudetenland and the city of Danzig
Danzig is one of ancient german city and german territory before WW1, Hitler wants only what belongs to Germany
Hitler gives 24 hours capitulation to the Poles and under the Polish campaign another 48 hours to evacuate the civilians, but the Polish Goverment denied both the capitulation and the civilians evacuation from the strategically important cities
England and France the same day sending declaration of war to Germany only a few hours difference
Hitler before the Polish campaign, a 25-year-old peace treaty was signed between the French and Germany
And this peace treaty was infringe from the French side because France declared war on Germany, not Germany declared war on France (After the Polish campaign Hitler beat France)
From 1939 until 1941 Hitler made several peace deals to England, but Churchill denied any peace treaty only the complete withdrawal the German forces from Poland, Hitler insisted on the Danzig
The Second World War broke out due to Versailles peace treaty, and the French and English agression
What a bunch of crap! The next thing you are going to tell us that there were no death camps either. Hitler’s idea of a peace offering was accede to his demands or else. The English and French were bound by a treaty to defend Poland and with his invasion of Poland the treaty was invoked. Hitler started the war, no one else.
If Hitler only wanted what was Germany’s, why did he take the rest of Czechoslovakia besides the Sudetenland? And the rest of Poland besides Danzig? And how about Norway, was that once German too? Belgium? The Netherlands?
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You are stupid and looks like uneducated, first you don’t correctly known basic things who start the war whom :lol:
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Hitler not want war, only back the ancient city of Danzig, gives 24 hours capitulation which the Poles denied. The city of Danzig illegally taken away by the Versailles Peace Treaty (like breaking up the 72% of the Austro Hungarian Monarchy)
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We aren’t speak concentration work camps, we speaking about the World War 2. You are a Jew provocateur?
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Norway and Netherland occupation was preventive action from the German side was due to a possible British invasion,the Abwerh (German Secret Services) notice Hitler, England try to design a disembarkation in these Eastern countries
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Belgium was strongly connected to Germany under Hitler leadership,in the reality was independent like Switzerland and most of the German firearms developed in Belgium before WW2
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Hitler not want to occupy whole Poland he was only interested in separated old german territorries and cities like Danzig, and he is very carefully done through the Polish campaign, the separated 6 million German population in Poland is not damaged, only military targets were attacked
Read more about the the subject and not just Jewish-English-Russian-American publications
imi, there is no need for this sort of comment, so don’t do it again. Consider this as mod advice that will become a warning if you repeat this sort of unnecessary, inaccurate, and unfair comment.
sorry if someone not clear these basic things who attack who under ww2, for me uneducated and stupid
In the elemetary school teaching this theme for 14 years olds
I consider that Laconia has a much better understanding of the relevant history than you do.
You are entitled to your opinion, as Laconia and I are to ours.
Just be respectful of others in disputing their opinion, and do so with reasoned argument and presentation of facts.
As I said in my last post, there is no need for comments such as Laconia being uneducated and stupid because his opinion disagrees with yours.
As you have chosen to repeat the specific comment of the type I advised you not to repeat, and in doing so added the comment that 14 year olds in your education system are taught what I regard as your distorted view of the relevant history and thus implied that Laconia lacked the intelligence and education of a 14 year old, you now have an official mod warning not to engage in this sort of conduct.
IMI, you’re going on about Jews again, so another advisory correction for you. You do not seem to take RS* advice on board, so allow me to deepen its impression upon you by seconding that advice, and adding my own. If you cannot control what you post, then refrain from posting until you can control it. Should you continue to demonstrate this lack of control, then the Staff will be forced to do it for you by editing, or deleting posts that do not conform to Site rules. This is not something we wish to do, but we are the ones who maintain the integrity of this Site for the benefit of all of its members.
Ah, I see what we have here - a neo Nazi who continues on with Nazi propaganda some 70 years after the war. Unbelievable!
I world war 2 theme about 20 years. Do you think I am incompetent about World War 2?
- Laconia is write about the war the view of the US
- You write about the war the view of Australia (australia also declared war on Germany, in the same date as the Brits and the French, Australia declared war on Germany September 3, 1939)
- tankgeezer write about the war the view “the land of Yoopers” this probably Canada or US, but sure one allied state of the WW2
- I sue the Jews immediately because there is currently no word anti-Semitism, this is a deliberate provocation on behalf of Laconia. I did not say that there were no concentration camps, Laconia is a provocateur
I am write what happening in Europe but who I talk to: jewish and liberalist brainwashed pensioners? :lol: I am sure a total idiot!
Today the Allied and Jews wroted history books deliberately omitted things that Hitler are more evil than he was. Because the winners wrote the history,and later the history books that’s all and the Allies and the Jews try to presented Hitler much worse then he was
Hitler wants only back the old german territorries, and not plan to attack France or England. France and England attacked Germany for the German territory goal Polish campaign
Here is one of his speeches which presents Hitler was was entirely diplomatically about the german territories question to the allies but completely unnecessary (listen from part 1- until 7)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4rPn34qMkI&bpctr=1468428119
But the Poles and the Brits want to insist the Versailles “Peace Treaty” which cut out from Germany around 6 million German citizen from their homeland, Hitler wants only what belongs to Germany
The Austro Hungarian Monarchy lost 72% of the country, do you call this a fair “peace treaty”?
Anyway I’m getting enough of this forum which is most similar to a pensioners’ club in these latest years which constantly threaten me terrorists called “moderators” only for my opinions
I wrote the truth that’s all, and you not want to adopt, because you are the allies, and I am the Axis
And you came immediately the “nazi” and the good old “anti-semitic” themes, and the usual warnings for banning wich is terrorist threatnigs, what you call “warnings”
You know what?
I was member of this forum 06-18-2008 and I have 19,570 visits only on my private site on this forum
I made several topics, and these topics made total 236,295 views totally free for your pockets (you know internet pay per view system right? Course you know :lol:)
And what is the gratitude for that? Permanent banning threats from the “moderators”
I think this is enough and the time to say goodbye to you all dear brainwashed capitalist liberalist, and Jew bootlicker terrorists
Goodbye and f*ck you all dear Gents!
Bye
It is a far-fetched idea and makes no sense. Why didn’t they just let some French troops go? Why did they hold most of the French Army as POWs until the end of the war? And OKW was under no illusion that “finishing off” Britain would be an easy thing.
And most of all, the order didn’t originate with Hitler, it did with Rundstedt (to refit his exhausted panzerwaffe and allow consolation of forces for the second phase of the attack on France: Fall Rot) and some other supportive generals. I can’t recall if Halder was in favor or not. But much of these myths are the doing of the post-war rantings of the German generals seeking to absolve themselves of what turned out to be (arguably) as massive strategic blunder and cast Hitler as the goat.
Most of all, a quick panzer attack into Dunkirk might have failed miserably since unsupported tanks do not do well in urban combat against increasingly consolidated infantry…
The Wehrmacht was not prepared for war before 1942 at the earliest. They didn’t even have a real war-plan against France, much less England. Perhaps 1948 for the Kriegsmarine…
France and England attack Germany because the Germans moved into Poland to recapture old territories like Danzig (now Gdansk) which was part of the German empire, and by the Versailles Peace Treaty unlawfully handed over to the Poles after WW1 in 1920 (not to mention the dismemberment of Austro-Hungarian monarchy)
Danzig was a German city, almost 100% of the population of germans consisted at that time after Versailles Germany lost 6 million german citizen
Funny how they also took Warsaw, which the Germans had no historical claim too…
And calling “The Phony War” an “attack” is absolute hyperbole…
From 1939 until 1941 Hitler constantly sought to end the war between England and Germany, but Churchill wanted to continue the war and rejected any peace treaty from Hitler
No he didn’t…
Name one serious instance Hitler offered any actual peace…
Well, we’ve been told! 
If that’s how you feel IMI, but remember, it was your decision.
One cannot deny the historical record as it applies to the events leading up to the beginning of WW2. The last thing Britain and France wanted was another war and the appeasement policies of Neville Chamberlain to prevent another European conflagration is proof of this. It finally happened though because at some point even Chamberlain could see that negotiations with Hitler were fruitless.
It is hard to believe that in this day and age anyone could be an apologist for the Hitlerites. People can have their own opinions, but the facts are the facts and cannot be argued. One of the most fascinating books on the subject was written by American correspondent William L. Shirer called The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich - it is truly a masterpiece of historical writing.
During these battles leading up to Dunkirk, the British infantry fought hard like the professionals they were. Unfortunately they were fighting against the tide of German superiority in tactics and arms. I remember seeing a video of one of the German soldiers who was there praising the fighting abilities of the British soldiers. He said that after they were captured they lined themselves up in ranks and dutifully marched ramrod straight like true soldiers off into captivity.