Women in the army? Best thing ever. Personally I don’t think they should be in teeth arms (and long may it remain so) but they do a cracking job just the same as blokes. And sometimes because the forces are male dominated the girls usually tend to make more of an effort. Plus, having women in the army can have ‘fringe’ benefits. My last unit was mixed and by a stroke of luck I was going to be on stag with the prettiest girl in the platoon during one of the coldest winters on records (the fact I wrote the stag rota was mere coincidence;) ).
Unfortunately, due to the extreme cold we were forced to huddle together to keep warm:D I even had to sacrifice my dignity and rub parts of her in order to keep her warm.
I never much cared as long as they would do their jobs, Ugly can be useful, especially in scaring the enemy.:shock: We need an abject panic&fear emoticon.
That is, the uglier the girl, the longer it takes for the equivalent of beer goggles to apply. This does not make ugly girls (or boys, if you’re in a certain segment of the navy :D) ) more attractive.
Time just increases the desperation of the viewer and reduces his standards under the urgency of a moment of opportunity. The same applies to the girl, which enables two people who normally would repulse each other to join in momentary rapture in a wet slit trench.
Women in the army? Best thing ever. Personally I don’t think they should be in teeth arms (and long may it remain so) but they do a cracking job just the same as blokes. And sometimes because the forces are male dominated the girls usually tend to make more of an effort. Plus, having women in the army can have ‘fringe’ benefits. My last unit was mixed and by a stroke of luck I was going to be on stag with the prettiest girl in the platoon during one of the coldest winters on records (the fact I wrote the stag rota was mere coincidence ).
Unfortunately, due to the extreme cold we were forced to huddle together to keep warm I even had to sacrifice my dignity and rub parts of her in order to keep her warm.
Get out of dream land! Military is a seriors job; best to keep it as a man’s profession.
Just cause some women MAY be equal to a man,does not mean all women are-------- many /most women are not!
Have a look at the roles filled by women in the Soviet, and the Israeli military, past, and present. Gender is a moot point when facing a live weapon in trained hands.
A military should be reflective of the society they protect. It’s that sort of ridiculous thinking that women aren’t equal that kept the American army racially segregated until Korea.
Many, probably most, men aren’t capable of discharging the onerous demands of infantry, which is the heart of any army and which does the hard fighting that takes and holds ground, in any war.
Most men in WWII, and subsequent wars in which the West was involved, didn’t serve in infantry or either of the other Arms. A good proportion of them never even got remotely close to the sound of enemy fire.
Most men in those wars were involved in logistics and administration and other non-combat duties. That doesn’t reduce the importance of their service because, without them, the Arms couldn’t have performed.
But I can’t think of one of those jobs that couldn’t have been done by a woman, and many now are.
As for combat, research Soviet women snipers and fighter pilots in WWII, among others.
If it comes to a physical test, pound for pound men will generally beat women. But put a gun in the hand of each and you’ll find out why a slang term for a gun between the wars was ‘an equaliser’.
I once read somewhere that, as a good rule of thumb, you can say that for every fighting man, an army employs three who allow him to keep fighting. (That’s logistics, supplies, organization, planning, etc)
As such, I couldn’t agree more with you. Let women join the army, there’s plenty of jobs that they can do just as well as any man. HOWEVER, do not utilize women in any role which they can’t fill 100% out of sheer political correctness. Much can be said for the gun as the great equalizer, but a soldier does so much more than just shoot. He has to be able to march, he has to be able to carry tens of kilograms of weight and he has to be able to carry his wounded comrade should need be.
But there is also another part to being an infantryman: A complete and utter lack of privacy. A female soldier has absolutely no right to expect special treatment. If she walks off into the woods to pee, there’s a good chance she’d get killed - if not by preying hostiles then by a nervous sentry.
A while back, I read about how the Hamburg Fire Department was sued and forced to reduce their minimum fitness requirements and the corresponding exercise in the practical entry exam: A woman had complained that the physical requirements were sexist because as a woman, she wouldn’t be able to pass them. This is the kind of political correctness that just causes more sexism and creates prejudices: If a certain physical ability is required to do one’s job, this shouldn’t be subject to political correctness: If a firefighter isn’t able to, say, lift a beam out of the way or off a person, she isn’t fit to do the job, male or female.
But this is just an example of gender equality gone wrong. If there is no physical or psychological reason why a woman can’t do the job, she should be considered equal to a man. However, lowering the standard of admission just so that more women are able to reach it is the wrong way: This just creates more problems than it solves.
As for combat, research Soviet women snipers and fighter pilots in WWII, among others.
Both of these are great examples of combat jobs that women could do just as well as men. Basically anything in which the ability to operate a machine makes (certain) physical ability obsolete, they’re usually just as good.
The sniper thing is a little bit different though. The Soviet snipers were basically expert marksman who usually traveled with the army and just went on independent sorties.
Modern snipers are usually a combination of marksmen and long range recon elements. They have to be extremely physically capable, as they basically have to carry sometimes weeks of supplies with them, as well as additional weaponry and equipment. This might make it a good bit harder for women nowadays…
Schuultz said: “They have to be extremely physically capable, as they basically have to carry sometimes weeks of supplies with them, as well as additional weaponry and equipment. This might make it a good bit harder for women nowadays…”
I have seen young mothers carrying most of a household along while out with their kids, they probably wouldnt notice the addition of a weapon or two.
further, the combat effectiveness of females could be substantially enhanced merely by telling them that the enemy has just made off with all of their chocolate.:shock:
I can see it now a whole battalion of women whom if properly used could be devastating. Just think once they’ve harmonised their menstrual cycles (and they will!) all you have to do is wait for ‘the time of the month’ and say to them ‘that bunch over there said you look fat’ and wait for the carnage to ensue, although you might get done for war crimes against the enemy:shock:
Nah, you’re not thinking at a tactical level using all available resources.
The special forces types need to go behind enemy lines and place self-powered loudspeakers, then return to their own lines.
The Psychology Corps, carefully instructed by me as this is a bit too brutal for them, then broadcasts through the speakers not a simplistic ‘you look fat’ but the more subtle and more deeply damaging "Have you seen the arses on those sheilas over there? I thought a two hump camel was lying on its side until she stood up. Well, struggled up with all that arse weight behind her. Then I thought she was facing me, becuase the humps were down around her knees. But when she started walking away from me, I realised that no amount of camo was going to conceal the fact that her enormous arse had dropped. If her arse looks that big in camos, it’d look like a small planet in jeans. Assuming anyone makes jeans with a fork lift on the back to hold that blubber. ’ Etc, etc.
Everyone between the shelias and the speakers is guaranteed walking dead.
P.S. Sometimes in shopping centres I look into ladies’ clothes stores and see a sheila trying on something or holding it against her, and every bone in my body tells me to yell out “****, but your arse looks enormous in that.”
But I’m mature, so I don’t.
I just yell out “I love every bone in your body. Especially mine.”
The whole war crimes thing can be avoided, if the psy-ops people let it be known that any men captured by these women will be forced to mate with them, the opposition forces will shoot themselves. (its easier to do that than chew ones own limbs off to escape):lol:
I agree; wwII Russian women as Snipers and Air Craft pilots are equal too men,there’s no boundries, There is some roles that women can to just as good or better than men,and these two roles are the two. I am talking about infrantry roles! women are less physical than men are;less capable in running and carring combat equipment;yet,women are being place in these roles for combat;these women are just lucky,we will never see wars like WWI and WWII ever again.
As for women bodys & natrual body fluids;— was not meant for fighting roles. Sorry if I sound sexiest,but this is how I view women in military.
There may well be nothing more dangerous than a female IDF soldier with an Uzi in one hand, and an Elite bar in the other. In fact a rolling pin would be lethal enough in that situation.
Having only left the forces in 2007 I saw alot of females taking up roles traditionally held by males only. In most cases I had no problem with them as long as they fitness requirements were the same between the two sexes.
Unfortunately the females had lower fitness requirements than the males to do the same job (even basic fitness tests) and recieved the same pay.
I lost count of the times when I would be approached (and was even reported once for refusing to help 'read do the job) to change a truck tyre as the female drivers could not (yet they are fully capable of doing the job, hmm what happens when they are not just base ratting but actually out on their own).
In my own Corps they made alot about the fact that females could now become Sappers, but they did not have to do Minewarfare or Bridging (too dangerous or too heavy for them) yet they got the same qualifications and pay.
I know quite a few females who can do those jobs and in some cases much better than some of the blokes I worked with (seen many a bloke struggle to lift bridging panels).
I am all for equality as long as it is for both sexes if females wish to do combat roles, mechanic, drivers etc etc then fine but they should do and pass the same fitness tests and do the same training as the lads doing those jobs, they should not keep doing the ‘flutter eyelashes bit’ at the nearest bloke to get them to do the heavy stuff.
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