What is your choice for the best American fighter of ww2. I have to say the P-51 looked the coolest and is probably the best known but the P-47 is the best fighter IMO. In the ETO 7 of the top 10 fighter aces flew the P-47.
So whats your choice?
My choice would be the P-47 Thunderbolt for reasons that I’ve previously posted on this forum.
Runner-up for me would be the F4U Corsair.
Partial quote from following article posted before:
http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showpost.php?p=76510&postcount=49
[b]Now read Rip Collins’ words. Rip (back then Lieutenant Collins) was a WW II fighter pilot from the class of 44-C, Aloe Field, Victoria, Texas. Rip was assigned to the 40th Fighter Squadron, a Squadron in the 35th Fighter Group, Fifth Air Force, FEAF (Far East Air Forces) in the Pacific. (There is a link to the 40th at the end of this article.)
Rip flew both the P-47 and P-51 in combat in the Pacific. He is a big fan of the P-47, and took me to task for choosing the P-51 over the P-47 in my article “Best Fighter Planes of WW II.” In that he is not alone, but he was the only correspondent who actually flew both in combat, so his words carry a lot of weight. At one point he wrote to me that he could give me a dozen reasons why the P-47 was superior to the P-51. Naturally, I asked him to do just that. After reading his reasons, I asked him if I could use his material (with credit) in an article about the P-47, and he kindly consented. From now on you are reading Rip’s words:[/b]
For sure, fighter pilots are a different cut of guys. I guess we got spoiled because we were considered the “cream of the crop.” In most cases, not all, but most, if you were going into the USAAC, USAAF, USAF, or whatever name it was called at the time, the majority of us young bucks wanted fighters (1055) and not multiengine (bombers, transports, surveillance, rescue, etc.). I’ve seen the disappointment at “wash out” time, when the primary and basic flight instruction group was split up prior to advanced training. The men that couldn’t cut it went on to multiengine advanced training bases, while the “cream” went on to single engine bases to fly the AT-6 Texan (advanced fighter trainer).
It is not unusual to favor your own aircraft. In fact, it is a bit common. We probably all look at this in a different way, and in a different light. And if you didn’t get to fly both the Jug and the Mustang, you were at a decided disadvantage. Here are my dozen reasons why the T-bolt was the superior fighter of the two.
1. The Republic Thunderbolt had a radial engine that could take hits and keep on running. I know of an actual case where a Jug brought a pilot back from Borneo after 8 hours in the air. The pilot landed with the master cylinder and three other cylinders blown out of commission. But the Jug kept chugging along, running well enough to bring its pilot back safely to his base at Morotai. I was there.
2. The Jug’s radial engine was air cooled, instead of liquid cooled with a radiator system, like the Mustang’s V-12. This is significant because one small caliber hit on an aluminum cooling line in a Mustang would let the coolant leak out, and when the coolant was gone, the engine seized, and the show was over.
I took a small caliber hit in a coolant tube over Formosa (Taiwan). When I landed back at base, my crew chief said, “Lieutenant, did you know you got hit?” I replied, “No.” He continued, “You took a small caliber shell in the coolant tube on the right side of the engine. I’d give you between 10 and 15 minutes flying time remaining.” I had just flown from Formosa, over nothing but the Pacific Ocean, to our fighter strip on Okinawa.
3. The P-47 could fly higher than the P-51. With its huge turbocharger, it could climb to over 40,000 feet. You could just look down at your enemy in a stall and smile.
4. The Jug could out dive the Mustang. As a matter of fact, it could out dive any enemy fighter, and at 7.5 tons loaded, it dove fast! I have personally been in a dive at what we called the “state of compressibility,” at nearly 700 mph indicated air speed. I was scared to death, but with a tiny bit of throttle, I pulled it out at about 2,000-foot altitude, literally screaming through the sky.
5. The Thunderbolt had eight .50’s. The Mustang had six. That’s 33 1/3% more firepower. This made a major difference.
6. The later model Thunderbolt’s could carry and deliver 2,500 pounds of bombs. (One 1,000-lb. bomb on each wing, and one 500 lb. bomb under the belly.) This was a maximum load and you had to use water injection to get airborne. But it would do this with sufficient runway. I have done this myself.
In addition to being a first class fighter, it was also a superb fighter-bomber and ground level strafer. Jugs practically wiped out the German and Italian railroads. I have strafed Japanese trains, troops, ships, gunboats, warships, airfields, ammo dumps, hangers, antiaircraft installations, you name it. I felt secure in my P-47.
7. The P-47 was larger and much stronger, in case of a crash landing. The Jug was built like a machined tool. Mustangs had a lot of sheet metal stamped out parts, and were more lightweight in construction. One example was the throttle arm. You can see the difference. What does all this mean? The safety of the fighter pilot.
8. The Thunderbolt had no “scoop” under the bottom. You can imagine what happens during a crash landing if your wheels would not come down (due to damage or mechanical trouble). On landing, it could make the P-51 nose over in the dirt as the scoop drags into the earth. In water (and I flew over the Pacific Ocean most of my 92 combat missions), it could cause trouble in a crash landing because the air scoop would be the first part of the aircraft to hit the water. Instead of a smooth belly landing, anything might happen.
9. The Thunderbolt had a much larger, roomier cockpit. You were comfortable in the big Jug cockpit. In my Mustang, my shoulders almost scraped the sides on the right and left. I was cramped in with all my “gear.” I could not move around like I could in the P-47. I found the ability to move a little bit very desirable, especially on seven and eight hour missions.
10. The Mustang went from 1,150-horse power Allison engines to the Packard built Rolls-Royce Merlin engine that had 1,590 hp. The Thunderbolt started out with a 2,000 hp Pratt & Whitney engine, and ended up with 2,800 war emergency hp with water injection. That’s close to twice the power.
11. The Jug had a very wide landing gear. This made it easy to land just about anywhere, with no tendency to ground loop. Many times we had to land on rice paddies and irregular ground. When you set the Thunderbolt down, it was down. In the Far East, England, Africa, and Italy, this helped you get down and walk away from it. To me, that was very important for the safety of the pilot.
12. The Jug’s record against all opposing aircraft is remarkable. The ratio of kills to losses was unmistakably a winner. Thunderbolt pilots destroyed a total of 11,874 enemy aircraft, over 9,000 trains, and 160,000 vehicles.
But, the big factor, above all else, it saved pilots in great numbers. Ask most fighter pilots who flew both in active combat and they will tell you that, given a choice to fly either one in combat, it would be the Juggernaut hands down.
Now one last thing: the P-51 Mustang was a superb fighter. I am fully aware of that! But, considering that I flew about every kind of mission the Pentagon could dream up, and a few they didn’t know about, I will rate that 8 tons of destruction first as long as I live, and no one can change my mind. I was there. Simply walk up to one of them and see for yourself.
The dictionary defines “juggernaut” as: “any large, overpowering, destructive force or object.” That was the P-47 of World War II.
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P-51 without a doubt, but it was not strictly US though, having been designed for a British specification and the Brits didnt like it too much and then suggested replacing the Allison engine with the Merlin, thus was borne the best fighter aircraft not only of the US but of the whole war. You cant argue against something that could fly to Berlin and still best any aircraft sent against it. If it wasnt for the Mustang, the USAAF wouldnt have been bombing Germany in daylight.
Oh and it looks fantastic…
F8F Bearcat Rare Bear at left, P-51D Mustang Dago Red at right.
Judge for yourselves, but personally I prefer the Bearcat.
I like the P-38 lightning , a very underrated aircraft. In the end I pick the P-47.
Yes on of the best looking planes besides the Spitfire. Maybe I should have included before the Merlin engine and after. Not alot of detail on the P-51 before the merlin engine however, insofar as combat performance. Also I should have included the Bearcat. I just wanted a poll on the best of American fighters of ww2.
The poll can be edited if you wish!?!?
it is defintly the P-51,this plane was fast,fierce,and would scare the living daylight out of a german
The P-57 Mustang with out a doubt. This plane lead to many victories in the air against the German Air Force. Some Allied soldiers were comfartable in war as long as they had the P-51 Mustang in the air.
P51 would be probably the most popular…i heard one P47 pilot say in an interview that you got your picture taken with a P51 but if you wanted to come home alive you flew a P47…
personally ,if i had only 1 chance at flying a WW2 plane i’d pick the P40…style wise i’d say i like it the best…
Has got to be the mustang without a doubt , my choice anyway
I vote P-51 Mustantg because the best escorts of the war the Tuskegee Airmen flew them and they never lost a plane to enemy action.
The 332nd FG (Tuskegee Airman) also flew P-40s and P-47s (don’t believe too many of the '47s saw action with this group, before being replaced with the P-51).
It would be between the P-51 and the P-47 for me…I have to go for the P-51, as they escorted many of my veteran friends all the way to Germany. However, George’s post, which has the fascinating veteran’s account, has made it a very tough choice! Thanks for that most informative post, George!
As a side note, just finished a ‘Jug’ drawing for a veteran fighter pilot. It’s a gift from a friend and he’s no idea about it! Hope it brings back some fonder memories for him.
P-38 is my fave, excellent plane, well armed.
You’re welcome ww2artist and thanks for the compliment
I have had a long time fondness for the P-47. The P-51 Mustang was a great plane too, although it was a trickier plane for a novice pilot to fly.
I read somewhere that the Israelis who flew both the American P-51 and the British Spitfire in their air force felt that the Spitfire handled better.
I’m sure that the old vet will be pleasantly surprised by your friends gift - great idea 
My vote definatly goes to the P-47, for the abovementioned arguments by Sandworm and George Eller, but even more for the sheer coolness factor of that rugged beast. It might not look as elegant as the P-51, but it sure looks like it can deliver a fatal blow anywhere anytime 
Oh and I played a game named P-47 on my Amiga when I was a kid :mrgreen:
Trouble is, the P-38 had difficulty operating above 25,000 ft due to the cold,
it caused frequent engine supercharger failures, and the cockpit heating was poor, causing intense discomfort to the pilot, and windscreen icing.
It got so bad that 8th USAAF Air Force P-38’s had to operate below 25,000. This unfortunately led to them being ‘bounced’ on a regular basis by higher flying Luftwaffe fighters.
By the end of 1944 the P-38 had been replaced by P-51’s in the 8th Air force, and only one fighter group in the MTO still used them as escort fighters
A kindred spirit 
The question is impossible to answer… I will try anyway…
- In 1941, the P-40 was the best against the swarms of japanese ‘Claude’;
- On the eastern front, Me109 pilots had only one fear: the russian P-39’s;
- There is no doubt the old Wildcat was no match for the Zero’s;
- The Hellcat however was by far the best carrier-based fighter of the war;
- The Corsair was no doubt the greatest fighter-bomber in the Pacific;
- The Lightning was a nice long-range escort, but not the best dogfighter;
- The Thunderbolt was immune to the flak, which made it an excellent fighter-bomber;
- There was no better long range dogfighter than the Mustang;
- The P-61 was heavy and expensive, but it was the only all-weather and night fighter.
But then if you ask me, the P-51 is the most beautiful aircraft of all times
I’ve gone with the F6 Hellcat, arguably the safest fighter in the US arsenal, just shading the P-47. Both of these fine aircraft have been terribly ‘underdone’ in comparison to the P-51.
Regards digger.