Gefreiter Hein Severloh - war hero or mass murderer?

Many of you guys might know this man or better his story since he was mentioned here once as one of the german defenders of Omaha beach. Well, things turned out for him not to be like the thousands of other german soldiers on this very day. Gefreiter Hein Severloh (1923-2006) aka “The Beast of Omaha Beach” (allied term) fired about 12500 rounds (with MG 42 and K98’s afterwards when the machinegun was disabled) on the landing G.I.'s on Omaha Beach, Easy Red sector on June 6th 1944 during a nine hour fire fight. Estimates of the opponents killed by him went up to 2000. This number seems exaggerated though but it had to be a triple-digit number. How to describe a soldier like this and his deeds? I’m looking forward to hear many various opinions here.

I think when I am a soldier in a war,my first option is try to stay alive.
Kill your enemy,or your enemy will kill you.
Of course this is another story,your soul how carry this enormous number.
War is every time was terrible,think,but this game have a name:who’s quicker&stronger

I think he’s a GREAT soldier. A soldier is suppose to kill the enemy. Why would anyone consider otherwise?. I mean, I’m not happy he killed the Alied forces but given the statement that he killed 2000 “soldiers”, I’d want him in my army anyday. Who needs an atomic bomb when you have a mean lean killing machine like this man.Whether he killed by bullet, knife or even a coathanger, makes no difference when engaged in war. It’s be killed or get killed. I actually don’t understand why he stayed in prison as a POW until 1947 if the war ended in 1945. he was not a murderer;he was a soldier trained to kill the enemy. If only he was on the USA side!!

Staying in war captivity for two years was quite normal with western allies. To a POW in Russia this would have been a gift. Of course the allied did not know by this time who Severloh was and what he had done…maybe he wouldn’t have returned at all…
I’d like to talk of the possibilities to see a person like Severloh (I can strongly advise his book WN 62 - Erinnerungen an Omaha Beach) in different ways: US vets he met had forgiven him, claiming they hadn’t act different in this situation. Relatives of fallen G.I.'s showed open hostility even 50 years after the war. A british reenactment unit invited him to England, decorating him with the wounded badge ex post because he couldn’t be awarded during the war due to captivity…

Um. If he had killed 2000 GIs, then he is responsible for nearly all of the deaths suffered by the Americans on Omaha Beach! Exactly how was he thought to be anymore effective than any other German machine-gunner on Omaha?

But certainly he was a soldier doing his duty…

Most of GErmans pows in USSR have been prisoned for FOUR years since 1945-49. As it was in full agreement with allies. The general idea was - if USSR have been occuped and demolished for 4 years - so they would restore it 4 years too.
While the most of POWs got they way back in 1949 the certain part of pows ,supposed in participation in crimes, still have been here till 1953.

Of course he was just soldier…
he obviously can’t kill 2000 becouse i,m seriously doubt he was a SINGLE mashine-gunner on entire Omaha Beach.The 200 seems me more real…
But he is obviously very proud of his “overrated score achievements”.Just like Rudel,Eric HArtman, Wittman and ets.

Well, like I said this number is exaggerated but somebody mentioned this number in connection with Hein Severloh?
What made him more effective? Probably he managed to stay alive for longer…

Not 1953 but autumn of 1955. and only because chancellor Adenauer promised enormous payments (official term= improvement of economical relations between the USSR and Germany). And Erich Hartmann’s -who “stayed” till 1955 as well- participation in crimes was shooting down a lot of soviet planes and oh yes, destroying a bread factory (fancy idea).

He was a soldier who did his job, just like the soldiers, sailors and airmen who were trying to kill him.

War and Emerging Remembrance
German Veterans Begin to Add Narrative Piece to WWII

By Glenn Frankel
Washington Post Foreign Service
Saturday, July 24, 2004

METZINGEN, Germany – The shifting current funneled the landing craft toward the eastern end of Omaha Beach, where they disgorged men directly below Hein Severloh’s camouflaged machine gun nest. He recalls emptying belt after belt of ammunition, raking the shoreline for hours as wave upon wave of American GIs struggled through the blood-red surf.

“I did not shoot for the lust of killing but only to stay alive,” said Severloh, 81, a tall, soft-spoken man who said he must have shot hundreds of Americans on June 6, 1944. “I knew if only a single one survived he would shoot me.”

For years Severloh told no one but his wife of what he did on D-Day. He said it was partly out of fear he would be labeled a Nazi and a killer, but also because fellow Germans didn’t want to discuss World War II or hear about the experiences of army veterans. But over the past few years, historians, journalists and admirers have beaten a path to his farmhouse in this sleepy village in western Germany; Severloh has published a war memoir, been interviewed repeatedly by television, newspapers and magazines and been the subject of a televised documentary. He said he is gratified and amazed at the attention he has received.

As this country focuses on World War II more than 60 years after it began, Severloh’s memories of the Allied invasion of Europe are part of an examination long suppressed by Germans. After decades of shame, fear and self-imposed silence, German soldiers and civilian victims are now venturing to describe their perspectives of the war. Beyond the traditional portrait of World War II as an epic battle of good vs. evil, the emerging view reveals a more complex narrative. Severloh’s story has become part of the modern mix.

“We have new generations with new questions, and people are interested in what happened during the war without prejudging,” said Johannes Tuchel, director of the German Resistance Memorial Center in Berlin, a museum devoted to chronicling opposition to Adolf Hitler’s rule. “We see, we know and we accept that Germany caused the war, but for the first time we are looking at all the aspects of what happened.”

Unlocking the Memories

Germany officially participated this year for the first time in commemorating D-Day alongside the United States, France and Britain. Other moments for reevaluation have included the 60th anniversaries of the July 20, 1944, failed assassination attempt against Hitler and the Aug. 1, 1944, beginning of the Warsaw Uprising, a savage 63-day battle against Nazi occupation forces that ended in a tragic defeat for Poland.

Recognition of these events follows a wave of books, television documentaries and articles focusing for the first time on German victims of the war – both the hundreds of thousands of civilians killed in the Allied fire bombings of major cities and the 13 million expelled from their homes in Eastern Europe. Next spring will bring celebrations of V-E Day – Allied victory in Europe on May 8, 1945 – and two films about Hitler that are expected to break the longstanding German taboo against portraying the Nazi dictator on-screen.

One reason for the renewed interest, analysts and historians say, is that members of the World War II generation are dying out, and people are keen to hear their stories firsthand before they vanish. Another reason stems from Germany’s new role as a world power, with a more activist foreign policy and a willingness to dispatch peacekeeping troops to international trouble spots.

“If we want to participate in the world, we have to stand on firm soil as to the past,” said former president Richard von Weizsaecker, 84, who also served as a young soldier in the German army in World War II.

Reinhard Hesse, the main speechwriter for Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder’s D-Day and July 20th addresses, said the anniversaries have marked Germany’s coming of age as a modern democracy. While the lessons of World War II used to be invoked as a rationale for Germans to avoid military operations, Hesse said, they are increasingly cited as a reason for Germans to become more involved.

For many Germans, the past was another country, a dark place shrouded by anguish, introspection and resentment. Gerhard Beick and Lothar Nickel are combat veterans who were drafted at age 19 and served in the legendary Afrika Korps – in North Africa under Erwin Rommel. They recall coming home after the war from prisoner internment camps to cities in ruins and people obsessed with day-to-day survival, expressing no interest for the returning soldiers or their experiences.

“No one cared to hear about it and no one asked,” Beick recalled. “We had all suffered, an entire generation. We came back to a destroyed country, destroyed cities, and we were interested only in personal survival. We tried to forget the war as much as possible.”

There was always an undercurrent of guilt and suspicion. Nickel recalled that when Afrika Korps members began forming veterans groups in the 1950s, newspapers would not publish notices of their meetings, fearing that the men were surreptitiously reconstituting their old units.

“In the minds of a lot of people, we were seen as old Nazis,” Nickel said. “But we were just young people dragged into the war.”

One of the most abiding controversies centers on the failed assassination attempt against Hitler by military officers and civilians led by Col. Claus von Schenk Stauffenberg. In the first decade after the war, said Winfried Heinemann, a historian with the German army’s Military Research History Institute, many Germans viewed the conspirators as traitors who had violated their personal oath to Hitler. At the same time, the communist government of East Germany depicted the plotters as right-wing reactionaries who sought to kill Hitler to save their own necks when it was clear the war was lost. But in later years, the conspirators came to be honored as shining examples of German resistance in a manner that seemed to suggest their actions absolved other Germans of complicity with Hitler.

The popular view has evolved to the point where a recent poll in Der Spiegel, a weekly magazine, showed that 73 percent of those polled felt admiration or respect for the plotters and 10 percent expressed disapproval or contempt. This year’s solemn anniversary ceremony, held in the cobblestone courtyard where Stauffenberg and three of his fellow conspirators were executed by firing squad on the night of the failed coup, brought together dignitaries and more than 100 relatives of the four executed men.

Schroeder’s speech sought to connect the German dissidents with resistance movements in Poland, France and the Netherlands, saying these disparate groups constituted the first seeds of modern European unity. But he acknowledged that in Germany, the resistance constituted a very small minority.

One of those in attendance was Georg Freiherr von Loe, a high school science teacher in his early fifties whose grandfather was one of hundreds of conspirators executed after the plot failed. Von Loe said that he had not attended previous commemorations but that his feelings of guilt now that the older generation is passing and his attempt to deal with questions from his children compelled him to make the six-hour drive from his home in western Germany, along with his wife and two of his children.

He and his family found the experience both moving and disturbing. “We have not slept well these last few nights because we have been discussing it,” he said. “We need time to process what we have experienced.”

A Killing Machine

Severloh took 40 years to begin to process what happened to him on Omaha Beach. He had taken up a concealed position on the eastern side of the beach along with 30 other German soldiers, and he recalls watching the horizon turn black with dozens of ships and landing craft racing for the shore. His commanding officer, Lt. Bernhard Frerking, had told him not to open fire until the enemy reached knee-deep level, where he could get a full view.

"What came to mind was, ‘Dear God, why have you abandoned me?’ " he recalled. "I wasn’t afraid. My only thought was, ‘How can I get away from here?’ "

But rather than run, Severloh slipped the first belt of ammunition into his MG-42 machine gun and opened fire. He could see men spinning, bleeding and crashing into the surf, while others ripped off their heavy packs, threw away their carbines and raced for the shore. But there was little shelter there. Severloh said he would occasionally put down the machine gun and use his carbine to pick off individual men huddled on the beach. He is still haunted by a soldier who was loading his rifle when Severloh took aim at his chest. The bullet went high and hit the man in the forehead.

“The helmet fell and rolled over in the sand,” Severloh said. “Every time I close my eyes, I can see it.”

Severloh said he was the last man firing from his position. By mid-afternoon, his right shoulder was swollen and his slender fingers were numb from constant firing. When a U.S. destroyer pinpointed his position and began to shell it, he fled to the nearby village of Colleville-Sur-Mer, where he was captured that evening.

In Severloh’s telling of D-Day, there are few heroes and several surprises. The German occupiers had warm relations with their French farm hosts before the invasion, he contends. Lt. Frerking, who died on D-Day, was an honorable man who spoke fluent French and once gave one of his men 10 days’ punishment for failing to help an elderly French woman with her shopping bags, Severloh said. The U.S. invaders slaughtered farm animals and soldiers, he said, yet that evening he and his ravenous U.S. captors shared a baguette.

Severloh said he first told his tale to an inquisitive correspondent for ABC News during the 40th anniversary of D-Day in 1984. But the real breakthrough came when an amateur war historian named Helmut Konrad von Keusgen tracked Severloh down. Von Keusgen, a former scuba diver and graphic artist, said he had heard from U.S. veterans about the machine gunner they called the “Beast of Omaha Beach” because he had mowed down hundreds of GIs that day. Severloh confessed he was that gunner. Von Keusgen ghost-wrote Severloh’s memoirs, published in 2000, and still visits him regularly. The two men contend that Severloh might have shot more than 2,000 GIs. That’s an impossible figure, according to German and American historians, who say that although the numbers are far from exact, estimates are that about 2,500 Americans were killed or wounded by the 30 German soldiers on the beach.

“My guess is yes, he helped kill or wound hundreds, but how many hundreds would be hard to say,” Roger Cirillo, a military historian at the Association of the U.S. Army in Arlington, wrote in an e-mail. He added: “Omaha is like Pickett’s Charge. The story has gotten better with age, though no one doubts it was a horror show. Men on both sides were brave beyond reason, and this is the sole truth of the story.”

Hein Severloh said he takes no pride in what he did, but telling his tale has given him a sense of relief.

“I have thought about it every single day that God gave to me,” he said. Now, he said, “the pressure is gone.”
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See, that’s what I had in mind. There are actually quite some differences in the opinions on a comparative small level.

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That’s true the last party of pows ( about 14 000) have been released only in october-december 1955 after Adenauer visit…
But it was just tiny part of more then 2 mln POWs that have been already returned to the Eastern germany before 1953-54.

And Erich Hartmann’s -who “stayed” till 1955 as well- participation in crimes was shooting down a lot of soviet planes and oh yes, destroying a bread factory (fancy idea).

Not just Hartmann , but also and Zeidliz, Pauls and many other captured generals of Stalingrad, Army Group centre and ets…
And some of them used the privileges- for instance the all of officers ( medium and high) got the additional ration, were free of labour.
That for instance what famouse general Fridrich Pauls (commander of six army) said in 1953 , after his liberation, moving to the Dresden :" i personaly , thankful to Stalin for his magnanimity to us as a prisoners of war"
Nobody pulled him for tongue…it was his real thoughts…

I kinda doubt that he really meant this. Nobody is grateful for an 8-year captivitiy. GFM Paulus was “turned” during his war captivity joinig the “Bund deutscher Offiziere” and “Nationalkommitee”. He was just loaded with self reproaches and felt he was let down by Hitler in Stalingrad (which is totally comprehensible).

He wasn’t “turned” , althouth NKVD trued as much as can, after Stalingrad.
The keepd silence about year, nobody can’t bend him, but after 20 jule 1944, and next executions of officers , some of whom were his friend, he absolutly voluntary has decided start to fight agains Hitler, it was famouse “letter of 50 germans generals” that he signed , joining to the “Nationalkommitee”.
Later he absolutly voluntary also was a very importaint Soviet prosecutor in Nurenberg.
Stalin personaly has appreciated his aid , later Paulus even went to Crimea’s resorts for three month with some other germans high officers.
Paulus 'captivity" was probably the best that he might even dream.When in 1953 he was going to move at Eastern Germany, the soviets suggested him the very hight post ( seems in ministry of defence or national police) but he refused it . He dreams only about his family,that tragically perished after beeing prisoned into the concentration camp, right after his “betrayal” in Stalingrad.

Yes, Paulus was given a mansion in Dresden , a western german car and even some servants. The problem was all this servants were informers of the intelligence service and even his mail was controlled. The post he was offered and which he filled was the responsible post of a “head of the war historic council of science” at the academy of the barracked peoples’ police corps of the GDR…Basically he spent the rest of his life trying to justify his actions regarding Stalingrad.

He absolutely was a good soldier that did an excellent job and he was no more a “murderer” than the Americans who were certainly trying to kill him with naval gunfire and infantry envelopment. And`certainly if the Americans had known that he was a machine-gunner, he probably would not have survived that day…

But I do believe that I’ve read part of the GI bitterness regarding Omaha Beach was that they perceived that the Germans were specifically targeting their medics and doctors treating wounded. Also, there were many US soldiers that were pinned against the seawall that were unarmed after having lost their weapons in the surf or in a panicked endeavor to get to the wall. The defenders realized this and began dropping mortar rounds to specifically kill them. It was then that many of the men realized that they faced a stark choice of either certain death or a slim hope they could “close with the enemy” and kill them – or at least inflict casualties before dying. One of the ironies is that the Heer’s 352d and 116th were trained specifically in static defense and lacked the training or planning to counterattack the beachhead. If they had, they might have rounded up numerous US POWs either prolonging the American’s agony in taking the beachhead, or possibly forcing a withdrawal…

(recalled from Stephen Ambrose’s “D-Day”)

Is there any evidence to support that perception?

I would have thought that there wouldn’t be any point to targeting wounded and medics while the landings were proceeding as the wounded were already out of the battle. The aim is to create more wounded and distract more men by tending to them, not to dispatch those already wounded. Doesn’t mean the wounded and the medics weren’t fired at and hit, but I’d expect it was more by accident than design in the general mayhem of the moment.

Their training was seriously deficient if that happened in large numbers.

Every recruit has it drummed into them that they hang onto their weapon regardless.

I doubt it had anything to do with the men being unarmed. If the Germans could see they were unarmed behind the seawall it’s likely they could have brought machine gun fire to bear on them. More likely the Germans just realised that the invaders were concentrated behind the seawall.

Mortar crews invariably target concentrations of stationary troops. It’s where mortars are most effective.

I can well understand how the landing troops might have drawn the inferences you’ve outlined, but for the reasons I’ve given I doubt that they were accurate inferences.

To all accounts Severloh acted in accordance with the Laws & Customs of War. That means whatever else he may be he isn’t a war criminal/mass murderer.

I don’t know. I’m just recounting the perceptions of the average soldiers, not verifiable facts. But the facts are that US medics suffered horrendously on Omaha Beach. Unfortunately I have no statistics to share. But I think Saving Private Ryan touches on this when the medic, Irwin Wade, yells out to the Germans shooting at him after they kill one of his patients he has just controlled the bleed from…

Their training was seriously deficient if that happened in large numbers.

Every recruit has it drummed into them that they hang onto their weapon regardless.

I think you seriously underestimate their difficulties…

Many of the men were dropped much farther from shore than anticipated and nearly drowned because the Higgins’ Boat operators simply wanted to dump them and get out of there. It is understandable that many ran ashore with little of their arms or equipment…

But not too worry, there were plenty of rifles and ammunition no longer in use available laying on the beach…

I doubt it had anything to do with the men being unarmed. If the Germans could see they were unarmed behind the seawall it’s likely they could have brought machine gun fire to bear on them. More likely the Germans just realised that the invaders were concentrated behind the seawall.

Perhaps. But the defilade of the seawall also made the US troops temporarily combat ineffective and I think the Germans may well have realized this…

We could also say if the Germans had been more actively aggressive in counterattacking the beachhead, they might have scored a coup…

Mortar crews invariably target concentrations of stationary troops. It’s where mortars are most effective.

I can well understand how the landing troops might have drawn the inferences you’ve outlined, but for the reasons I’ve given I doubt that they were accurate inferences.

Agreed on both counts. But I have little doubt that the Germans were aware that they were inflicting a fearsome toll on the first few waves, and perhaps had little pity for them and perhaps a disdain for the niceties of warfare such as medical treatment of the wounded…