Greater Israel and the war in Iraq

The motive for the war in Iraq is to make a larger Israel.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/not_in_website/syndication/monitoring/media_reports/2768873.stm

One of the most important objectives of this latest crusade is to establish a huge Jewish superstate (Greater Israel) that will include the whole of Palestine, parts of Iraq, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and a huge area from the land of the two holy sanctuaries.

Oh, lovely – an out of context quote from Al-BBC and some random maps.

Conspiracy theories are so last century… boring people to death after only three posts? That’s the new thing.

I agree with Stoat, 3 posts! I ask you to be very carefull with post number 4.

I think Cansouth may be a person that was a member here in a different incarnation.

There can’t be that many howling moonbats out there can there ?

You’d be surprised!!!

So which of the white supremacists neo-nazis do we think he is?

Oh! Oh! ( puts up hand ) would it rhyme with tits.

I’m impressed by the way that the proof provided can’t make its mind up about what ‘greater Israel’ is going to be. Sometimes it just goes to the Euphrates and other times almost to the Capsian Sea, sometimes it includes Baghdad, sometimes no. The Elders of Zion must still be drafting the specifics. You’d think after controlling the entire world for so long, they’d have got round to formulating what is, after all, a fairly central plank of their plot. I suppose it goes to show just how cunning they truly are.

To quote Roger Waters of Pink Floyd in Montreal during a 1977 concert, “OH FOR FUCKS’ SAKE!”

I hope this is a joke or a troll, anyone actually believing this crap is a complete unadulterated asshat. Iraq is simply an abortion, and really bad foreign policy that has more to do with oil rights than Israeli ones.

Not even the Israelis are stupid enough to get involved in Iraq.

How would they control their borders, they can only just do it with the forces they have.

It is obvious that these morons are incapable of asking simple questions.

I have just looked at the BBC link that tells of OBL’s tape of the Jewish plans for its new state. So the Nazi loony fringe is now using Muslim loony fringe to justify what they say. Now that’s a new one on me.

I recall after 9/11, some fringe Neo-Nazi “Americans” were rejoicing over the attack…

One would think that fascist-extremists would have at least some once of patriotism in them…

There are a number of close ties between Nazis/neo-Nazis & Arab Nationalists.

The speading of this kind of drivel would suit both lots.

The bizarre thing is that both Jews and Arabs are Semitic peoples, and thus the last thing you would expect of them would be to be associating with the anit-semitic Nazis.

Incidentally, aren’t the Aryans, beloved of Nazi ideology, one of the 12 Tribes of Israel?

Wonder how Adolf and his boys justified that one?

I wonder why it is we seem to attract white supremacists and nazis to this site when there are so many they could go and bother instead, where the members of the site wouldn’t be so keen to give them a good shoeing.

I think they try and spread their Gospel and attract new disciples, they should realise by now that it doesnt work here!

Postwar Arab links to the ODESSA network
Seán Mac Mathúna
http://www.fantompowa.net/Flame/nazis_postwar_egypt.htm

Some partial quotes from the webpage on German Nazis who fled to the Middle-East after World War II:

Most people assumes that when Nazi’s fled Europe after the war most of them went to Latin America, where the ruling elite’s - such as the Peron’s in Argentina - had always been sympathetic to Nazi ideology. Many did, but a sizable number of others find work in Egypt, notably under the regime of Gamal Abdal Nasser (1918-1970), an Egyptian army officer and political leader, who was the first president of the republic of Egypt (1956-70). In 1952 he led the coup that deposed King Farouk (another Nazi sympathizer), and later became premier (1954), and president (1956). Hitler had enjoyed quite a following among the nationalist youth of Egypt during the war, after Nassiri Nasser, the brother of Gamal had published an Arab edition of Mein Kampf in 1939, describing its author as the “strongest man of Europe”.

The Nazi-Arab connection started by the Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini, continued after the war according to Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke writing in Hitler’s Priestess: Savitri Devi, the Hindu-Aryan myth, and Neo-Nazism (New York University Press, New York, USA, 1998). The Middle East had emerged as a haven for Nazis fleeing Europe in the 1950s, which had its roots in the anti-British and pro-Nazi attitudes of Vichy Syria, Rashid Ali in Iraq, King Farouk of Egypt and the Mufti of Jerusalem.

Thus, Egypt became like Argentina, a safe-haven for Nazi’s fleeing justice and retribution from the Allies in Europe. Goodrick-Clarke states that King Farouk had been “impressed” by his garage mechanics recruited from Afrika Korps POWs, and:

“Wondered what he might achieve with officers from elite units of the Gestapo and SS who had fought so hard against the hated British” (p174).
Thus, a number of “nazi experts” who had escaped the Allied dragnet were hired by the King as military, financial and technical advisers. Although King Farouk was ousted in a military coup in January 1952, the Generals of the Egyptian armed forces were themselves “great admirers” of the Nazi’s and “availed themselves of further large-scale imports of ex-Nazi expertise”. They were to be helped by the former Luftwaffe ace Hans-Ulrich Rudel, the ex-SS commando Otto Skorzeny (1908-1975) and Eugen Dollman in recruiting “large numbers” of former Nazi fugitives from Argentina for key posts in the new republican regime in Egypt…

… As early as January 1952, the ODESSA network was in contact with “influential” Egyptian army officers and the former Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al-Husseini, who had lived in Egypt since the fall of Nazi Germany. According to the Israeli intelligence agency MOSSAD and French intelligence files, numerous former SS officers held key positions in the secret service and political police in Egypt. These included:

Joachim Däumling, former Gestapo chief in Düsseldorf, and later engaged in SS operations in Croatia. He was employed to set up the Egyptian secret service along the lines of the SS Reichssicherheitshauptamt (Himmler’s Reich Security Main Office); he was helped by the former Gestapo chief of Warsaw who organised the security police.
SS General Oskar Dirlewanger, chief of the infamous SS penal brigade;
SS Major Eugen Eichberger, battalion-commander in the Dirlewanger brigade;
SS Colonel Leopold Gleim, chief of the Gestapo department for Jewish affairs in Poland;
SS Lieutenant Colonel Bernhard Bender, Gestapo official in Poland the USSR, whose knowledge of Yiddish enabled him to penetrate Jewish underground organisations;
SS General Heinrich Selimann, Gestapo chief in Ulm;
SS Major Schmalstich, Gestapo liaison officer to French collaborationists and organizer of Jewish transports from Paris to Auschwitz;
SS Major Seipal, Gestapo official in Paris;
SS General Alois Moser, a war criminal who was involved in the extermination of the Soviet Jews in the Ukraine;
SS officer Johannes von Leers (1902-1963), who had been responsible for anti-Semitic campaigns at Goebbels’ propaganda ministry;
SS officer, Alois Brunner, who had held senior position in Adolph Eichmann’s “Jewish Department”, and is now believed to be living under the protection of the Syrian secret police in Damascus;
SS Major Walter Bollman, Nazi espionage chief in Britain before the war, and also involved in crimes against humanity and genocide against the Jews of the Ukraine;
SS official Louis Heiden, who was transferred to the Egyptian press office during the war;
Franz Bartel, and “old fighter” in the early days of the NSDAP in Germany, and Gestapo officer;
Walter Birgal, an SS officer from Leipzig;
Erich Bunz, a former SA major and expert in the “Jewish Question”;
Albert Thielemann, a regional SS chief in Bohemia;
SS Captain Wilhelm Böckler, a war criminal who had precipitated in the liquidation of the Warsaw Ghetto;
Wehrmacht General Wilhelm Fahrmbacher, who took over the central planning staff in Cairo . . . .
Added to this were a number of former Nazi officials and sixty military experts, mostly former Waffen-SS men, who assisted in the training of the Egyptian army. Several of them were also linked in 1958 with the then Algerian government-in-exile. At least 200 German and Austrian scientists and other personnel were deployed in the new aircraft and missile centre at Helwan, where new staff physician was Dr. Hanns Eisele, SS Captain and medical torturer in the death camp at Buchenwald.

Goodrick-Clarke says that President Gamal Abdel Nasser was “well disposed” towards the Nazis, all the more because they wished to take part in the destruction of Israel. The presence of so many Nazi’s in Egypt under the Nasser regime was exposed in the world press in October 1962, and precipitated a crisis in the Israeli government (who had ordered MOSSAD to make try and kill several of the Nazi’s), and embarrassment in West Germany, over the exposure of postwar Nazi collaboration with the Nasser regime.