Modelling work of Strina Croatia.

So i hawe to thank first Hg for uploading some pictures and helping me !Thanks!So hier is my masterpice for now a russian counter attack near Stalingrad hope you like it :wink:

And one more from up

Please fell free to comment weather you like it or not

That’s fantastic!

Hi Croatia.
Nice work, i like it.
What’s the scale of figures and models did you use?
Look the diorams at my favorite page
http://www.interdacom.ru/~tanks/index.htm

They are wery big my scale is 1:35 and i am making another recreation of a movie a will post it when i finish;)

Very nice mate, I see your skill increases with time.

Man thats a masterpeice right there! Its a beaut!

Good job!

Have a bit off topic question…In the US we reinact civil war battles all the time. And i could of swore i heard once about a ww2 reinactment battle on quite a large scale…(not for a movie)…does anyone know anything about these and where they are held?

I will upload some pistures of that particular reinacment i use them for documentation i will place it under Us military thank you everyone for compliments

Saddam Hussein Sentenced to Die for Crimes Against Humanity
Fox News

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,227574,00.html

Sunday, November 05, 2006

BAGHDAD, Iraq — Saddam Hussein, the iron-fisted dictator who ruled Iraq for nearly a quarter of a century, was found guilty of crimes against humanity Sunday and sentenced to death by hanging.

The so-called Butcher of Baghdad, who was president of Iraq from 1979 until he was deposed by Coalition forces in April 2003, was convicted of the 1982 killings of 148 Shiites in the city of Dujail.

The visibly shaken former leader shouted “God is great!” as Iraq’s High Tribunal announced his sentence.

Saddam’s half brother and former intelligence chief Barzan Ibrahim, and Awad Hamed al-Bandar, head of the former Revolutionary Court, were sentenced to join Saddam on the gallows for the Dujail killings after an unsuccessful assassination attempt during a Saddam visit to the city 35 miles north of Baghdad.

Click here to go to FOXNews.com’s Iraq Center.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/iraq/index.html

The trial brought Saddam and his co-defendants before their accusers in what was one of the most highly publicized and heavily reported trials of its kind since the Nuremberg tribunals for members of Adolf Hitler’s Nazi regime and its slaughter of 6 million Jews in the World War II Holocaust

“The verdict placed on the heads of the former regime does not represent a verdict for any one person. It is a verdict on a whole dark era that has was unmatched in Iraq’s history,” said Nouri al-Maliki, Iraq’s Shiite prime minister.

Some feared the court decision could exacerbate the sectarian violence that has pushed the country to the brink of civil war, after a trial that stretched over nine months in 39 sessions and ended nearly 3 1/2 months ago. The verdict came two days before midterm elections in the United States widely seen as a referendum on the Bush administration’s policy in Iraq. U.S. and Iraqi officials have denied the timing was deliberate.

The White House praised the Iraqi judicial system and denied the U.S. had been “scheming” for the verdict.

“The president thinks it’s an important moment for the Iraqi people,” White House Press Secretary Tony Snow told FOX News.

Iraqis “are the ones who conducted the trial. The Iraqi judges are the ones who spent all the time pouring over the evidence. … It’s important to give them credit for running their own government,” Snow said.

In north Baghdad’s heavily Sunni Azamiyah district, clashes broke out between police and gunmen. Elsewhere in the capital, celebratory gunfire rang out.

“This government will be responsible for the consequences, with the deaths of hundreds, thousands or even hundreds of thousands, whose blood will be shed,” Salih al-Mutlaq, a Sunni political leader, told the Al-Arabiya satellite television station.

Saddam and his seven co-defendants were on trial for a wave of revenge killings carried out in the city of Dujail following a 1982 assassination attempt on the former dictator. Al-Maliki’s Islamic Dawa party, then an underground opposition, has claimed responsibility for organizing the attempt on Saddam’s life.

In the streets of Dujail, people celebrated and burned pictures of their former tormentor as the verdict was read.

Saddam’s chief lawyer Khalil al-Dulaimi condemned the trial as a “farce,” claiming the verdict was planned. He said defense attorneys would appeal within 30 days.

The death sentences automatically go to a nine-judge appeals panel, which has unlimited time to review the case. If the verdicts and sentences are upheld, the executions must be carried out within 30 days.

A court official told The Associated Press that the appeals process was likely to take three to four weeks once the formal paperwork was submitted.

During Sunday’s hearing, Saddam initially refused the chief judge’s order to rise; two bailiffs pulled the ousted ruler to his feet and he remained standing through the sentencing, sometimes wagging his finger at the judge.

Before the session began, one of Saddam’s lawyers, former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark, was ejected from the courtroom after handing the judge a memorandum in which he called the trial a travesty.

Chief Judge Raouf Abdul-Rahman pointed to Clark and said in English, “Get out.”

In addition to the former Iraqi dictator and Barzan Ibrahim, his former intelligence chief and half brother, the Iraqi High Tribunal convicted and sentenced Awad Hamed al-Bandar, the head of Iraq’s former Revolutionary Court, to death by hanging. Iraq’s former Vice President Taha Yassin Ramadan was convicted of premeditated murder and sentenced to life in prison.

Three defendants were sentenced to 15 years in prison for torture and premeditated murder. Abdullah Kazim Ruwayyid and his son Mizhar Abdullah Ruwayyid were party officials Dujail, along with Ali Dayih Ali. They were believed responsible for the Dujail arrests.

Mohammed Azawi Ali, a former Dujail Baath Party official, was acquitted for lack of evidence and immediately freed.

He faces additional charges in a separate case over an alleged massacre of Kurdish civilians — a trial that will continue while appeals are pending.

The guilty verdict is likely to enrage hard-liners among Saddam’s fellow Sunnis, who made up the bulk of the former ruling class. The country’s majority Shiites were persecuted under the former leader but now largely control the government.

Al-Dulaimi, Saddam’s lawyer, told AP his client called on Iraqis to reject sectarian violence and called on them to refrain from taking revenge on U.S. invaders.

“His message to the Iraqi people was ‘pardon and do not take revenge on the invading nations and their people’,” al-Dulaimi said, quoting Saddam. “The president also asked his countrymen to 'unify in the face of sectarian strife.”’

In Tikrit, Saddam’s hometown, 1,000 people defied the curfew and carried pictures of the city’s favorite son through the streets. Some declared the court a product of the U.S. “occupation forces” and condemned the verdict.

“By our souls, by our blood we sacrifice for you Saddam” and “Saddam your name shakes America.”

U.S. Ambassador Zalmay Khalilzad issued a statement saying the verdicts “demonstrate the commitment of the Iraqi people to hold them [Saddam and his co-defendants] accountable.”

“Although the Iraqis may face difficult days in the coming weeks, closing the book on Saddam and his regime is an opportunity to unite and build a better future,” Khalilzad said.

Two U.S. officials who worked as advisers to the court on matters of international judicial procedures said Saddam’s repeated outbursts during the trial may have played a key part in his conviction.

They cited his admission in a March 1 hearing that he had ordered the trial of 148 Shiites who were eventually executed, insisting that doing so was legal because they were suspected in the assassination attempt against him. “Where is the crime? Where is the crime?” he asked, standing before the panel of five judges.

Later in the same session, he argued that he was in charge and he alone must be tried. His outburst came a day after the prosecution presented a presidential decree with a signature they said was Saddam’s approval for the Dujail death sentences, their most direct evidence against him.

About 50 of those sentenced by the “Revolutionary Court” died during interrogation before they could go to the gallows. Some of those hanged were children.

“Every time they [defendants] rose and spoke, they provided a lot of incriminating evidence,” said one of the U.S. officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the subject.

Under Saddam, Iraq’s bureaucracy showed a consistent tendency to document orders, policies and minutes of meetings. One document gave the names of everyone from Dujail banished to a desert detention camp in southern Iraq. Another, prepared by an aide to Saddam, gave the president a detailed account of the punitive measures against the people of Dujail.

Saddam’s trial had from the outset appeared to reflect the turmoil and violence in Iraq since the 2003 U.S.-led invasion.

One of Saddam’s lawyers was assassinated the day after the trial’s opening session last year. Two more were later assassinated and a fourth fled the country.

In January, chief judge Rizgar Amin, a Kurd, resigned after complaints by Shiite politicians that he had failed to keep control of court proceedings. He, in turn, complained of political interference. Abdul-Rahman, another Kurd, replaced Amin.

Hearings were disrupted by outbursts from Saddam and Ibrahim, with the two raging against what they said was the illegitimacy of the court, their ill treatment in the U.S.-run facility where they are being held and the lack of protection for their lawyers.

The defense lawyers contributed to the chaos in the courtroom by staging several boycotts.

The Associated Press contributed to this report.

I feel sorry for him.

:slight_smile:

I love it how people suddenly become religious when about to be punished for crimes they committed without a thought to what God might think of their actions.

Incidentally, apparently he still believes that the US is going to withdraw and put him back in power. Can’t see it happening myself.

I think his hands should be bound behind his back and then thrown off a high roof, it was a way he often used to kill, so he must approve of it. I don’t feel sorry for him at all. :wink:

I don’t think he was what you could call a righteous man. If he eventually makes that trip to the gallows, I guess he’ll find out what God thinks of his actions.

I don’t see the US putting him back in power either. I just wonder what effect his hanging will have on the insurrectionists.

Nor I :slight_smile:

Saddam Hussein
The Genocide Of The Iraqi People Under Saddam Hussein Is Directly Connected To
Amin Al-Husseini, Grand Mufti Of Jerusalem
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/saddam_en.html

Biography of Saddam Hussein of Tikrit
http://www.iraqfoundation.org/research/bio.html

Saddam Hussein, nephew of Khayrallah Tulfah,
of the 1941 Pro-Nazi coup in Iraq
http://www.eretzyisroel.org/~jkatz/saddam.html

The current [former] leader of Iraq was born on April 28, 1937, in a small village of al-Auja near the town of Takrit. His early child hood was spent in a mud hut in a mostly Sunni Muslim part of Iraq, which is approximately (100) one-hundred miles north of Baghdad. Hussein’s father, Hussein al-Majid, died or abandoned the family (according to who is reporting the story), within a short time of his birth. Accurate records are difficult to obtain in a country where Hussein’s birthday is celebrated as a national holiday.

He was reared alone by his mother Subha, until she took a second husband, Ibrahim Hassan. Hassan, often said to have been brutal and a thief, was a sheepherder by profession and enlisted Saddam in his ventures. According to a former personal secretary of Hussein, his step father abused Saddam and sent him to steal chicken and sheep to be sold. This pattern continued until 1947 when, at the age of ten, he was allowed to move in with his mother’s brother, Khayrallah Tulfah, in Baghdad.

In Baghdad, Hussein began to learn more than reading and writing. His tutor, Khayrallah had been “cashiered” from the Iraqi army for supporting a “Pro-Nazi” coup attempt that failed. Khayrallah’s bitterness towards the British and imperialism, soon was transferred to Saddam. In fact, some confidants of Hussein point to his relationship with Tulfah as a turning point in his political awareness. To demonstrate Tulfah’s importance to Hussein, he was later made Mayor of Baghdad under the Hussein regime. Saddam finished intermediate school (roughly the equivalent of 9th Grade) at the age of sixteen, and attempted to be admitted to the prestigious Baghdad Military Academy.

Unfortunately, his poor grades prevented him from doing so, and he became more deeply involved in political matters. In 1956, he participated in a non-successful coup attempt against the monarchy of King Faisal II. In 1957, he joined the Baath party, a radical nationalist movement. In 1958, a non-Baathist group of army officers succeeded in overthrowing the King. The group was led by General Abdul Qassim. In 1959, Saddam and a group of Baathist supporters attempted to assassinate Gen. Qassim by a day-light machine-gun attack. The attack was unsuccessful, but it helped to place Hussein in a leadership position in the Baathist movement and furthered the process of nationalist political indoctrination. After the attack, in which Hussein is slightly wounded, he fled to Syria. From Syria, he went to Cairo, Egypt where he would spend the next four (4) years.

The Nazi Background of Saddam Hussein
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2003/2/20/145726.shtml

At the time, Nasser, along with the Mufti himself, who resided in Cairo after the war and his conviction by the Nuremberg Tribunal of war crimes, was spearheading what was known as the Odessa Network, which facilitated the settlement of thousands of Nazi criminals in Egypt and elsewhere in the Arab world.

In 1962, Saddam married Sajidah Tulfah, the daughter of his uncle and mentor.

In 1963, after a successful coup by the Ba’ath Party against Qassim, Saddam triumphantly returned to Baghdad, where he assumed control of State Security. The Ba’ath seizure of power in Iraq was followed by firing squads and murder of political opponents reminiscent of Castro’s seizure of Cuba.

Saddam was chief interrogator and torturer at the infamous Palace of the End, set up as a torture chamber under the auspices of State Security.

Saddam became absolute ruler in 1979 after assassinating over 20 leaders of his own party. He immediately proceeded to implement the Nazi vision of his uncle and the Mufti. In Iraq, Saddam annihilated his opponents and, using his absolute power, developed a personality cult around himself reminiscent of the Nazi Fuehrerprinzip.

Like the Nazis, who sought to implement a new social order based on socialist and nationalist principles, Saddam has sought to develop a united Arab order under his personal control. Imitating the example of Hitler, Saddam set up concentration camps and began to carry out a planned program of genocide against the Kurds.

Saddam Hussein, Secrets of His Life and Leadership
An Interview with
Said K. Aburish

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saddam/interviews/aburish.html

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/saddam/interviews/aburish2.html

One of the re-occurring things in your book is the idea that he’s imposed Stalinism on a tribal society. What do you actually mean by that?

Saddam Hussein borrowed from Stalinism. He had his security people trained in Eastern Europe, particularly East Germany. Then he brought them back to Iraq and he taught them how to use the tribal linkage to eliminate people. So whereas they used Stalinist methods to discover people who were opposed to the regime, after that came the tribal factor, when Saddam said “Don’t get rid of Abdullah, get rid of his whole family, because one member of his family might assassinate us.” And that made it a perfect system for Iraq. It is practically foolproof.

Do we know whether or not Saddam has actually studied Stalin’s tactics?

There is absolutely no doubt in my mind that Saddam studied Stalin. Stalin is his hero. Stalin came from a humble background. Stalin was brought up by his mother. Stalin used thugs. Stalin used the security service. Stalin hated his army. And so does Saddam Hussein. Saddam Hussein models himself after Stalin more than any other man in history.

He has a full library of books about Stalin. He reads about him, and when he was a young man – even before he attained any measure of power – he used to wander around the offices of the Ba’ath Party telling people “Wait until I take over this country. I will make a Stalinist state out of it yet.” People used to laugh him off. They shouldn’t have. It was a very serious proposition indeed.

Briefly, what is his background?

He was from a very poor family, in a village called Al Awja, which is next to the town of Tikrit. As a young boy he had to steal so his family could eat. He stole eggs, and he stole chicken, things like that. He was illiterate until the age of 10. He heard that his cousin could read and write and demanded that he be afforded the same opportunity.

After that he became a gunman, a thug for the Ba’ath Party and he participated in the assassination attempt on the country’s strong man, Gen. Kassem, in 1959. Then he went into exile in Cairo. Came back after the Ba’ath took power and proceeded to organize the party and give it supremacy over the army, which was a very important development.

Whatever Saddam Hussein is he is above all an organizer, in a part of the world which hasn’t seen much of that. And this is why he – to use a word that does not fit him – he actually shines when you compare him with other Arab leaders.

For people who don’t understand Iraq, how important are family and tribal connections in that society?

Family and tribal connections are supreme. They come ahead of ideology. They come ahead of commitment to the nation-state, they come ahead of all commitments. Saddam Hussein realizes that. This is why, at a certain point, he transferred power from the Ba’ath Party, which put him in power, to his family, because he decided that the family can be trusted, but the party cannot be trusted.

He weakened the party and strengthened the family, and that is the situation in the country now. His second son is the head of the dreaded security system. His first son, who was a psychopath, runs all types of committees in the country. His brother is on the security system, his cousins are in key positions in the army. The people who come from Al Awja are in other positions in the army. The people who come from Tikrit, the town near Al Awja, are in other positions. It’s a pyramid of relationships, tribal and familial. And this is what he depends on. And, those people are loyal to him, because they believe that if Saddam goes, they will go as well.

During the time of that assassination attempt in 1959, when Saddam first leaves the country and goes to Damascus, goes to Cairo, what was the great game being played in the Middle East at that time?

The great game played in the Middle East in 1959 was Arab nationalism under Nasser. Nasser wanted to unite the Arab countries into one great one, capable of being completely independent. Most of the Western powers were opposed to that. The Ba’ath Party, to which Saddam belonged, believed in Arab unity as well. The man who ran Iraq, the man Saddam tried to assassinate, Gen. Abdel Karim Kassem, did not believe in that. And this is why Saddam and his crew tried to kill him. And that is also why once Saddam escaped after the assassination attempt, he found refuge in Cairo, under Nasser’s patronage. That was the situation: The Arabs trying to unite; the West, the United States and Britain in particular, were opposed to this unity.

So Saddam in the early '70s is Iraq’s vice president. Could you describe how he’s already setting up a Stalinist system with control of the government.

In the early '70s, Saddam started out controlling one small department called the Peasants Department; at that time the Ba’ath regime, for a very brief period of time, was committed to installing a democratic system in Iraq. It was a bit of a dream. Came the time for them to assign the job of head of the security system, and no one from the inner circle wanted the job. Everybody says, “This is a dirty job. I don’t want it.” Young Saddam Hussein raised his hand, and said, “I want the job. I’ll take over the security system.”

He took over the security system, called it the Department of General Relations and proceeded to expand it. This was his first step towards attaining power.

The president at the time, Ahmed Bakr had been a general, and a very nice man. Quite a religious man too. Saddam was a relation of his. He surrendered everything to Saddam, because Saddam worked an 18-hour day. In no time at all, Saddam was head of security, he was head of the Peasants Department, he was head of relations with the Kurds, he was head of the committee that controlled the oil. He was head of the committee that controlled relations with the Arab countries. He was head of the workers syndicate.

There was a conflict between all these departments that Saddam controlled so tightly and the armed forces – because the armed forces is the one organization capable of overthrowing government. Saddam proceeded to emasculate the army and place his professional soldier relations from Tikrit in key positions. For example, his brother-in-law became chief of staff of the army. And of course soon enough, like all people who are dictators, who are jealous of the army, he appointed himself general and eventually like Stalin he became field marshal.

So much of what you just described certainly has Stalinist overtones.

Without any doubt everything Saddam did had Stalinist overtones. In particular, the reliance on the security system rather than the armed forces, the jealousy of the generals in the armed forces, the use of criminal elements within the country, and, incorporating them into the security system. And those people were sort of semi-literate thugs whose loyalty was to Saddam, without whom, they were nothing. And so he brought them in, he depended on them, and they did him service. Anybody he wanted to get rid of he got rid of. And the door was wide open.

He had two qualities that put him ahead of his colleagues. His ability to work an 18-hour day. Endlessly. And a sense of organization. You didn’t see Saddam at three o’clock and miss that appointment by five minutes. Because Saddam would ask you why you are five minutes late, or five minutes early. If you had an appointment with Saddam at three, you showed up at three. That was that. He is that organized. He is that methodical.

And perhaps another comparison to Stalin is his relationship with Bakr and, Stalin’s relationship with Lenin.

Without any doubt there are similarities in the careers of Stalin and Saddam. Among other things, the major one is Stalin played second fiddle to Lenin for a long time. And it was then Lenin became very suspicious of Stalin. Saddam did the same thing with Ahmed Hassan Bakr and towards the end, Ahmed Hassan Bakr became very suspicious of Saddam and wanted to get rid of him. But it was too late. By then Saddam was in control of the whole country. And Bakr was shoved aside and replaced. Saddam became president. That is one similarity.

The use of criminal elements is key in this. Both of them used them, both of them rotated the heads of the security system because they knew this was the system that controlled the country. So no one could stay in that position for a long time. The longest serving head of security was Saddam’s half-brother who was there for eight years. And he eventually was moved into another job by Saddam because he became too powerful.

Saddam Hussein donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to a Detroit church and received a key to the city more than two decades ago.

Saddam’s bond with Detroit started in 1979, when the Rev. Jacob Yasso of Chaldean Sacred Heart congratulated Saddam on his presidency. In return, Yasso said, his church received $250,000.

“He was very kind person, very generous, very cooperative with the West. Lately, what’s happened, I don’t know.” Yasso said that at the time, Saddam made donations to Chaldean churches around the world. “He’s very kind to Christians.”

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,82317,00.html

I don’t see any amount of money making up for all the evil that he did. You just don’t buy off God.

From the Scriptures:

Hosea 6:6 For I desired mercy, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings.
(KJV King James Version)

Hosea 6:6 For I desire goodness, and not sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt-offerings.
(ASV American Standard Version)

Hosea 6:6 For kindness I desired, and not sacrifice, And a knowledge of God above burnt-offerings.
(YLT Youngs Literal Translation)

1987-88
Kurdish Genocide
http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/saddam_en.html#_ednref16

200,000 Kurds Murdered

3000 Kurdish villages destroyed. One million Kurds and Turkomen are displaced. Hundreds of thousands live to this day in refugee camps in Iran under extreme conditions.

Saddam Hussein places his cousin General Ali Hassan Al-Majeed (dubbed ‘Chemical Ali’) in charge of the Kurdish genocide.

Halapja massacre [xvii] (03/16/88) “Chemical Ali” drops mustard gas, nerve agent surin, tabun and VX gas on Kurdish village. Five thousand (5000) die in minutes. Tens of thousands crippled.

The Kurds
http://links.streamingwizard.com/1stuk/theotheriraq/webdocchapter1m.asx

http://links.streamingwizard.com/1stuk/theotheriraq/webdocchapter2m.asx

Let’s start with money. At a minimum, we know that Saddam Hussein’s government supported terrorism by paying “bonuses” of up to $25,000 to the families of Palestinian homicide bombers. How do we know this? Tariq Aziz, Hussein’s own deputy prime minister, was stunningly candid about the Baathist government’s underwriting of terrorist killings in Israel.

“President Saddam Hussein has recently told the head of the Palestinian political office, Faroq al-Kaddoumi, his decision to raise the sum granted to each family of the martyrs of the Palestinian uprising to $25,000 instead of $10,000,” Aziz, announced at a Baghdad meeting of Arab politicians and businessmen on March 11, 2002, Reuters reported the next day.

http://husseinandterror.com/

In April 2002, Saddam Hussein increased from $10,000 to $25,000 the money offered to families of Palestinian suicide/homicide bombers. The rules for rewarding suicide/homicide bombers are strict and insist that only someone who blows himself up with a belt of explosives gets the full payment. Payments are made on a strict scale, with different amounts for wounds, disablement, death as a “martyr” and $25,000 for a suicide bomber. Mahmoud Besharat, a representative on the West Bank who is handing out to families the money from Saddam, said, “You would have to ask President Saddam why he is being so generous. But he is a revolutionary and he wants this distinguished struggle, the intifada, to continue.”

http://www.whitehouse.gov/infocus/iraq/decade/sect5.html

Saddam Pays 25K for Palestinian Bombers
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,48822,00.html

I just think it’s wrong the way we invaded, took him out of power then put him on trial(of which we were pulling the strings, so the verdict was decided before it even started)for war crimes that we happily turned a blind eye to at the time because it suited our own political means. If there should have been any implications for him for his war crimes it should have been at the time, not years in the future when it suits us.

I don’t think there is a statute of limitations for murder.

And I believe it was for crimes against humanity.

Maybe sending him to Camp X-Ray would be good, but I hear they closed it down, and its only a temporarily camp, So maybe Camp Delta Or Echo where he will endure the harsh life of being in prison and treated not so fairly by the guards.