Vassili Zaitsev

my bro was asking me how many germans did he kill and i could not answer him so could some one give me the number of germans killed by this man

http://www.notesofasniper.com/
that web is good

Ok, Soviet propaganda comes into play, but it was somewhere between 142 and 222 at Stalingrad and close to 400 by wars end.

http://www.snipersparadise.com/history/vasili.htm

400 :shock: o man he killd battalion . :shock:

good find firefly! :slight_smile:

wow i did not thank he killed that many well thanks now i can tell me bro

According to http://www.snipercentral.com/snipers.htm#WWII, WW2 top twenty looks like:

Name Conflict Service Branch Kills
Simo Hayha W.W. II Finland 542
Ivan Sidorenko W.W. II U.S.S.R. 500
Nikolay Yakovlevich Ilyin W.W. II U.S.S.R. 496
Kulbertinov W.W. II U.S.S.R. 487
V. N. Pchelintsev W.W. II U.S.S.R. 456
Mikhail Budenkov W.W. II U.S.S.R. 437
Fyodor Matveevich Okhlopkov W.W. II U.S.S.R. 429
Fyodor Djachenko W.W. II U.S.S.R. 425
Vasilij Ivanovich Golosov W.W. II U.S.S.R. 422
Afanasy Gordienko W.W. II U.S.S.R. 417
Stepan Petrenko W.W. II U.S.S.R. 412
Sulo Kolkka W.W. II Finland 400+
Erwin Konig W.W. II Germany 400
Vasili Zaitsev W.W. II U.S.S.R. 400
Semen D. Nomokonov W.W. II U.S.S.R. 367
Abdukhani Idrisov W.W. II U.S.S.R. 349
Philipp Yakovlevich Rubaho W.W. II U.S.S.R. 346
Matthäus Hetzenauer W.W. II Germany 345
Victor Ivanovich Medvedev W.W. II U.S.S.R. 331
E. Nicolaev W.W. II U.S.S.R. 324

Major Erwin Konig the best German sniper killed in Stallingad by Vasilli Zaitcev.

This is a typically Hollywood story (Enemy at the gates).

It is unsure that the character Erwin Konig exists.
Check http://www.snipercentral.com/konig.htm

Edited for typos :oops: :oops:

No i read a book Memoars of Soviet generals I.V.Cujkov who been commander in 64th Soviet army and i read that in Battle for Stallingrad .

You forced me to copy and paste :smiley: :smiley:
Quoted:
Thorvald and/or Konig
There is great debate over wether the legendary WWII German sniper that was sent to Stalingrad to dispatch of Vasili Zaitzev was Konig, Thorvald, or even wether he existed at all. In fact in the actual Soviet war records, it originally showed up as a Maj. Erwin Konig, which is in fact a very basic and plain German Name at the time. In Vasili Zaitsev’s war memoirs, he later refers to him as Heinz Thorvald, which was yet another popular German name in that time period. Thorvald seems to be the name that is used more now, and its confusing as to which it was, and if they were the same person, or one was a mistake, or wether the German Super Sniper was fabricated by the Soviet press to represent the German army, or German snipers on a “whole”, and that the story was just a means of providing morale for the Soviet troops. The two names are on official Soviet war records, but there is no record of either name in the German record books (not to say they couldn’t have removed the name to save grace). Any way you look at it, its confusing and debatable. Since both names appear in Soviet propaganda and war records, Konig in early war records and Thorvald in Zaitsevs memoirs and in later war records, I have included them both on the list until there is concrete proof that one or the other, or both, did not exist.
In regards to Vasili Zaitsev, there is no doubt he existed, and was a very accomplished and successful sniper.
End quote.
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Now I am confused and I don’t know nothing . :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

:lol: :lol: It’s good anytime to find more sources (I’d say reliable sources) before a final conclusion of yourself!!
Remember mate, that during our lives we still learning!! :lol: :lol:

yes you are in right all our lives we still learning but why soviet general in your book lies.

I’m afraid that Firefly answered already :smiley:

Ok that book is writen 1960 ,that year is on book . :lol: :lol:

:cry: erwin was a fake,and im erwin too

It is still a debate… :lol: :lol:

Edited: Not that you are a fake! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Koning is fake . :lol:

Really major Konig isnt real?, so there wasn’t a sniper battle for days on end? :shock:
Well in the movie “enemy at the gates” they made vassili jude Law to look and be really heroic with a sheila and all his mates, but I dont know anything about the real Vassili Zaitsev…only that he was a sniper in stalingrad and he likes to repeat “I need a rifle” :lol: