Um, the Gestapo and Abwehr did take them seriously. For the most part, the French Resistance didn’t operate against Vichy until later. The Vichy also composed an illegal militia called the Milice apart from the Vichy military and regular police which numbered about 30,000 at its height. If the French Resistance didn’t exist, then why did they turn to such desperate and ruthless measures designed to counter the Maqui as much of the French regular police were sympathetic to them?
It was in fact the French that pioneered the use of a clandestine cellular structure to counter penetration by the enemy security forces…
The CHech resistance was wiped out.This is true.Germans has organized the serious compain to eliminate the leader of resistense after killing of German governor.
The men who killed Reinhardt Heydrich were actually British trained, Czech born SAS commandos inserted into Prague. The Germans had had a largely soft occupation in Czechoslovakia until the harsh reprisals set in motion by Heydrich’s assassination and the courageous refusal to surrender of the team that fought to the death in a Prague church and inflicted heavy casualties on the SS afterward began to separate the Czechs from the German occupation gov’t. This was no small part of the British plan…
Frence resistence was rather illusion.( i.e. it was , but there were more supporters then real fighters).
“Illusion” is a poor choice of words. They did in fact exist, even if they represented an overall 1% of the French population. Again, the numbers of potential resisters was reduced due to the French POWs and the Free French forces fighting abroad who were themselves resistors. And the very real open question as to their relation to what the French gov’t had become…
There were no a serious acts or diversion till the most mid 1944.
Even the resistence of Norvay and Dutch was more usefull for allies than the frence one.
But there were. The most effective acts were those of intelligence agents providing London the order of battle of German units. The ideal that the odd assassination of German officers or of blowing up a truck is going to have much of an impact was shown to be silly. There were numerous acts followed by harsh reprisals…
And the Dutch Resistance was penetrated by Abwehr early on I believe and betrayed much information, and consequently Allied lives, to the Germans. The Norwegians were mainly expatriates trained and under the command of the British SOE and SAS…
True in Ukarian the essential part of population were ACTIVELY fighting against occupants- both the GErman and Soviets( and some diehards even agains Poles;))
The UPA start to orginice the anti-german actions from most beginning of occupation in 1941.
Unkile in the France.
There were in fact mostly members of the French military and police initially that formed resistance movements. Their numbers were not great, but they were there. Keep in mind that they would have had to defy and ignore orders to lay down their arms as the Vichy gov’t was supposedly the legal successor to the Third Republic. This contrasts the Ukraine and even Russia where the central gov’t was still in power and had not made any separate peace with the Germans, even though some would say Stalin was inclined to do so after the shocking defeats in the opening days of Barbarossa…
You have absolutly no point here, coz even General Manstain has wrote in his memours that during the first days of Kursk battle the Germans felt the serious problems with railway supplies. When Ukraine resistance simultaneitly started the railway’s war.Germans even were forced to distract the Wermacht troops to defend the lines and to use it in contr-partisan operations.
I strongly doubt, Nick , that Mainstan will exagger the Soviet political purposes.
Also during the 1944 offenciseve ( operation Bagration) when the Group Armies Centre was finally destroyed the belorussian partisans actively have helped.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Bagration#Operations_Rail_War_and_Concert
Ahhh! But I DO have a point, as you ignored my statement that resistance and partisan units were truly effective only when used in conjunction with large conventional armies, generally just prior to, or at the beginning of, an attack. Your link shows that Soviet partisans were used in much the same manner as the French Resistance was during the Normandy Invasion on D-Day. They were dormant somewhat until they activated to cut railway and communications links and directly ambush Heer and SS units on their way to the front. There is NO argument contrary to the French Resistance having anything but a dramatic impact on the Normandy battle and reducing Allied casualties both through their intelligence surveying activities for the years prior to, and their active partisan activities at, the start of the battle…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maquis_(World_War_II)#Role
There are virtually no instances in WWII where Partisans can be shown to have had a major effect in direct contact with an enemy army (without working in conjunction of a large conventional ally) save for perhaps Tito’s partisans. There were major uprisings in France apart from the D-Day landings where units of the Maquis took on regular SS and Heer units and were annihilated with little gain. What was the point?