we are a credible force,we have weapons,we have an army,we have uniforms,we have a doctrine,we have a trainment,we have balls,we have enough numbers for a south american country and we are the best army of latin america (in quality,because brazil has by far bigget numbers).
about the officers,they arrogant,of course!,the generals think they are god with their brilliant uniforms,and their comfortable handguns (and we have the fal!!!).
I don’t think you understand what it is I am driving at.
Yes, you have all these things. (Although traffic wardens also have uniforms and they are not a credible fighting force at all are they 
) but this attitude within your officer corps is, I am led to believe, wrecking the synergy of your army.
You can have all the best weapons in the world, but without this vital ingredient you will fail.
Edit to add, I wake up at 06:30 and go for a 5 mile run in my own time. We go to work about 08:15.
but the morale is still high,and this of the officer also gives to the soldier respect for the officers,im agree,i didn’t like it,but when it is more difficult,it is better,but i would prefer start with the easyier first.
if in your army,they give you hugs and kisses,then you will finish as a lady,you have to feel bad like in a war every day,and then you will not suffer too much difference.
Three hours of lectures a week!!!
It’s worse than being a student!!! 
Erwin you say
and this of the officer also gives to the soldier respect for the officers
WHat ever it is you are talking about I doubt it is respect.
if in your army,they give you hugs and kisses,then you will finish as a lady,you have to feel bad like in a war every day,and then you will not suffer too much difference.
In our army we have a saying train hard, fight easy. Our training is ardous, but we’ve never had to sit on cactuses.
sit down on cactus is an example,they can order even worse things.
I have no doubt, but does this in anyway improve your martial skillset?
that’s what i was going to say,yes!,but the problem is that the officers will not improve a shit,indeed,they will get lazy,and too much arrogant,and that’s bad.Maybe it is unnecesary,but im sure that don’t makes us a worst army
Why is everything so black and white? I have never said that you are the worst army!!!
If you read the qestions I am asking it is to improve my knowledge on your country and forces. THey are not there to insult you.
However your officers do seem to be the problem in your army.
If your men do not respect their leaders they will not fight as effectively as they should.
The Para battalion at goose green, for example, fought a long, hard and close run battle against superior numbers across the worst terreign imaginable in a battle that it would be more accurate to say it happened than was actually orchestrated!!!
The CO personally took his command element forward as an infantry section to clear trenchs. It was more a battle of small groups of men than the whole battalion.
They succeded for a variety of reasons but their respect for their officers and NCOs is right up there. When a superior says “get out of cover and clear that trench with cold steal” it is leadership, and the soldier should want to do it for reasons other than the superior is nothing more than a bully who makes people sit on cactuss!!!
(it is because this battle is studied at Sandhurst and West Point that I use this example, the fact it was during the Falklands is coincidental.)
I got confussed,not worst,i meant worse.
our men respect the leaders!!!,of coursE!,because they think they are god.
you are talking about malvin** inside,i request the inmediate banning of 1000ydstare.
and if you watched just the bbc video,it wasn’t that much of argentines,i don’t remember how many but they lied you.
the officers orders you to sit on the cactus when you aren’t at war.
if you are on war,the orders are “follow me!” (“seguirme” words of the lt. estevez,national hero of the war of malvi***),he wasn’t a bad officer,we have both tipes,bad and good.
i avoided the topic malvin**. you get more inside,i hope mods will act.
Ok, this is going no where what about this question?
Are the conscripts used for anything else? For example in Tunisia the Tunisian conscripts are used for labour, they carry out various construction projects such as the maintainence of varoious desert roads. The volunteer/professional side of the army handles any border security issues, etc.
now there are no conscripts,i don’t know what are they user for,now they are prodessionals,and they do have the work of any professional soldiers.
brb,it’s 2pm and i will have lunch.
I will warn 1000yd stare for his single mention of the Falklands War on one condition. That you receive a one warning for each of your mentions of the Falklands/Malvinas. Having starred out some of the letters is no defence, any more than advocating child abuse by writing about chld mlesting would be acceptable. In the interests of fairness, I will also award myself a warning for mentioning the forbidden subject in my post.
Summary: I will warn 1000yd once, if you agree to the same terms being applied to others, including myself and yourself.
but i didn’t give a full mention,i censored the name malvin**,and you not,and also i named it (With censoring) just to reply 1000ydstare because i needed to deffend myself and my country.
you,I and others don’t have to receibe a warning because they weren’t talking an entire post with the malvin** war and i we didn’t talk about battles or regiments of that war!!!,he already said a lot,i could have a better reply.
i suggest to give him a warning,but us not,i was just replying,and i didn’t talked it as the centre of a post since the rule,but it seems that you are at a side.
LMAASA AT-63:
With a fully upgraded cockpit and modern avionics suite, the new AT-63 under production in Argentina is setting a new standard for low-cost basic through advanced trainer and light attack aircraft. On June 19, 2001, Lockheed Martin presented this new aircraft during the Paris Air Show and is now offering it to customers worldwide.
The Argentine Air Force signed an agreement with Military Planes Manufacturer of Cordoba for the purchase of 12 Pampa AT-63 pilot trainers. The fabrication of this planes is underway and 2 has been delivered to the EVC test wing before his final aceptation for the AAF.
The aircraft worth 6 million dollars is being offered to Colombia, Greece and Venezuela
The new AT-63 features:
-A Honeywell TFE-731-2C turbofan engine with 3,500 pounds of thrust.
-A state-of-the-art avionics suite with a Digital 1553B MIL STD data bus, full systems redundancy, a glass cockpit, laser ring INS/GPS NAV, a mission computer and an integrated weapons system.
-Fully pressurized dual control cabin with a one-piece canopy that can be electrically fragilized in the event of ground emergency.
-The ejection sequence for the two zero-zero seats can be pre-selected.
-Four underwing plus one under fuselage weapons stations enabling air-to-air and air-to-ground light attack capability.
Some internal shots still in factory.
AT-63 Characteristics
Weight:
Empty
6,217 lb
2,820 kg
Internal Fuel
2,380 lb
1,080 kg
Max TOGW
11,038 lb
5,000 kg
Wing Area
168.3 sq.ft.
(15.63 m2)
Horizontal Tail Area
46.8 sq.ft.
(4.35 m2)
Aspect Ratio
6.0
Leading-Edge Sweep
5.4 deg
Service Life
8,000 hours
Engine Thrust
3,500 lb class
1,560 daN
Performance
Max Level Speed @ 26,200 ft
440 KTAS
825 km/hr
Cruise Speed @ 30,000 ft (Clean)
350 KTAS
650 km/hr
Stall Speed- Flap-Down
82 KCAS
152 km/hr
Maximum Operational Mach
0.8
Design Load Factor
+6g -3g
Take-Off Run (ISA-S/L-Normal Fuel-8,300 lb)
1,410 ft
430 m
Maximum War load
1510 Kg.
Landing Run (ISA-S/L-7,710 lb)
1,510 ft
460 m
Ceiling
42,300 ft
12,900 m
Maximum Climb Rate (8,300 lb)
5,120 ft/min
1,560 m/min
Range
1,140 n miles
2,100 km
Roll rate
200° /sec
Work in the Factory.
Perversely, the new "all glass"avionics installed in the AT-63 trainer is far much better that some combat aircraft still used by the AAF like the prehistorics Mirage III/V/IAI Nesher, only machted by the LMASAA A-4AR Fightigh Hawks.
Nice shot of an old series IA-63.
I had the luck of entering to the factory the last month.
Panzerknacker, interesting posts mate, but any chance of a bit of input from you?
They appear to be cut and pastes from another site. What would you like to see, in your opinion, on the aircraft? Is there a better engine that was considered but rejected due to cost constraints?
PS. Interesting name, in Britain knacker means a vareity of things!!!
For example “knackers” are your balls in plural, or “knacker” in singlular. As in “I’ve just been kicked in the knackers!!!”
Knacker also means tired or broken as in, “I’m knackered by that run” or “my TV is knackered”
It has long been associated with scrap heaps ie “send the car to the knackers yard”
A “Fat Knacker” is a fat person, possibley lazy.
What does it mean in Argentina?
PPS I am a tech too. I install, maintain and repair communications equipment.
Jason.
“Knackers” (yard) is an Old English word for slaughterhouse specifically one that deals with fallen stock and dispatches injured animals - not for human consumption.
However IIRC “Panzerknacker” is from the German but the only refeence I can remember to it is in one of the early Playsation Medal of Honour games where it was used to describe an imaginary German robotic soldier.
“Knackers” (yard) is an Old English word for slaughterhouse specifically one that deals with fallen stock and dispatches injured animals - not for human consumption.
Forgot about that bladensburg, thanks for the clarification.
There’s a few hits on google for panzerknacker generally relating to some kind of anti tank action. But I’m sure the man himself will explain better.
Panzerknacker, interesting posts mate, but any chance of a bit of input from you?
They appear to be cut and pastes from another site. What would you like to see, in your opinion, on the aircraft? Is there a better engine that was considered but rejected due to cost constraints?
Actually is a post of mine that I made in anothe english language forum, the credits for the pictures are:
www.saorbats.com, external shots of the AT-63.
My friend Edgardo “Cazador” Alessio, wich share his picture of inside the cockpit. I should put this before…my mistake :oops:
PS. Interesting name, in Britain knacker means a vareity of things!!!
A “Fat Knacker” is a fat person, possibley lazy.
What does it mean in Argentina?
I am quiet amaze by this cuestion…I tough that that you probably know it already… :?
In Argentina dont mean nothing due this is german composite word Panzer= Armored, and Knacker= cracker, crasher, destroyer…so Panzerknacker is Tank cracker, tank destroyer, a sinonimuos for antitank.
In Argentina as you probably know, we use the spanish that was spoken in the province of Castilla, Spain, thats is called “Castellano”.
PPS I am a tech too. I install, maintain and repair communications equipment.
Jason
Good for you 8)
What would you like to see, in your opinion, on the aircraft? Is there a better engine that was considered but rejected due to cost constraints?
The engine is fine, the aircraft probably sustain some more Mach but is limited by the Dornier supercritical profile wing, wich gave to it a very good handling and aerobatic capabilities at low speed, but is nor designed for high Mach numbers.
Remember that is a advanced trainer, and even is advertized as a attack aircraft , is more like a transitional combat jet.
Something that would be nice to see is the naval AT-63, but still is in drawings boards ( or computer boars ) the contract is not released yet.
Navy AT-63.
