Colombian Military

You realize that FARC has a bigger budget than many third world militaries? Right?

Perhaps we could see some FARC troops in this thread? I recall seeing a story on the CBS News program 60-Minutes in which FARC was featured, and was shocked to see that their uniforms and weapons are far from the stereotypical “rag tag” guerrilla force using old Carbines and Springfield rifles. They were crisp, contemporary patterned uniforms and the members were toting newish Galilei rifles…

And while American taxpayers finance much of this War through the gov’t, part of the problem is that Americans also finances the guerrillas via the rampant use of cocaine…

Nick , you are correct about the budget of the FARC but that does not entirely explain why the Colombian militrary had failed so miserably in erradicate this buch of scumbags.

Or the Colombian politicians are too corrupt to do it or the Military are pissing in his pants when they face the guerrilla in combat.

I am asking…there is at list a pinch of pride in the Col Military ?

how they allow the guerrilla to survive in this way?

They did not feel outraged when they knew there is people kidnapped from some 8 o 10 years ago with completely impunity ?

they did not feel outraged when they knew that the FARC could kidnapped and kill senators and governors with impunity ?

I do, and I am not colombian.

Hard hand and no more shiting in its pants. That is what they need, no more fancy helicopters or aircrafts. The material will not be useful without a change in attitude. Argentine gave them 4 COIN aircrafts in 1990 and they not did not even manage to use properly.

The pissed pants, it must be the pissed pants.

http://www.globalvoicesonline.org/2007/06/29/colombia-outrage-and-anger-at-farc-for-the-death-of-11-lawmakers/

FARC and ELN no longer has control of the countryside, and has not in a few years. they still have areas around Cali and towards the coast there, but most other areas are quite under govt control now. the switzerland sized “de-militarized zone” was invaded within weeks of Uribe’s taking office. it is now in govt hands. there are still areas around the countryside where the rebels move around in “hit and run” type operations, mostly in arauca, and norte de sanatander, but for the most part, you can move around with impunity in the countryside. the rebels had about 80% of the countryside in 2000, now they have no more then about 15 % of the countryside.

No. 2 Colombian rebel killed, government says

Story HighlightsLuis Edgar Devia Silva, known as Raul Reyes, was FARC’s second in command16 others die in air attack on rebel camp in Ecuador, government saysKey ideologist for Marxist group also among dead, defense minister saysRebels released four politicians Wednesday after nearly six years in custodyNext Article in World »

(CNN)Colombian forces on Saturday killed the second in command of the country’s main rebel group, a strike the government said was the most significant yet.

Luis Edgar Devia Silva, known as Raul Reyes, pictured in 1999, was a top leader of the rebel group FARC.1 of 2 Luis Edgar Devia Silva, known as Raul Reyes, died in a joint operation conducted by Colombian national police and military forces, Defense Minister Juan Manuel Santos said.

The fighting took place just across the Ecuadorean border, he said.Reyes was among 17 killed, Santos said. Also killed was Guillermo Enrique Torres, called Julian Conrado, who Santos said was a key ideologist for the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, or FARC.The bodies of the two were in the hands of Colombian authorities, Santos said.Colombian President Alvaro Uribe had spoken to Ecuadorean President Rafael Correa to inform him about the situation, Santos said.Colombian air forces attacked a FARC camp from the Colombian side of the border, Santos said, adding that Colombia did not violate Ecuadorean airspace.

Don’t MissFreed lawmakers arrive in Venezuela Millions march against rebels There was no immediate reaction from FARC to the death of Reyes, The Associated Press reported.Reyes was a member of the seven-man FARC leadership council, known as the general secretariat. The U.S. State Department had offered a bounty of $5 million for information leading to his arrest, according to AP, as well as the other members of the ruling secretariat.The Marxist rebel group has been trying for 40 years to overthrow the Colombian government. On Wednesday, FARC released four former Colombian lawmakers who were among the estimated 750 hostages the group has held in the jungles of Colombia.In the past two months, FARC has released six hostages overall. Reyes, a former member of the Colombian Communist Party who joined FARC decades ago, played a key mediation role in their release. FARC has justified hostage-taking as a legitimate military tactic in a long-running and complex civil war that also has involved right-wing paramilitaries, government forces and drug traffickers.Reyes’ role in FARC was believed to include international relations and financial operations for the group. A former factory manager for Nestle-Colombia, he was a negotiator during peace talks

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/03/01/colombia.rebel/?iref=hpmostpop

The reaction of both governments involved is rather illuminating - it appears that FARC has probably been getting support from both the Ecuadorian and Venezuelan governments. In which case I suspect you may owe the Columbian armed forces an apology PK :wink:

I do, my apologies for being so harsh, it seems that the Goverment actually have some balls, however they are taking too long to destroy the guerrilla.I insist… we have some unemployed Generals here wich could useful for the Columbians. ( insert green face here)

I must add that this quite humilliating for the banana republic of Ecuador. For both things, for having the terrorist nest in their country and let the columbians attack his country.

I have noticed some disturbing information concerning the Venezuelan Gov’t, and the thought of Hugo Chaves about prosecuting military interventions in his neck of the woods.I think he fancies himself a strongman, and wishes to expand his socialist desires into other parts of the South Americas.
I hope someone there will enlighten him about what has happened to all of the other “strongmen” who made too much trouble in the past.

The guy is crazy, even his own people is beginnig to get tired of him, so I dont see many future for his aspirations.

Maybe the C-12’s will get him,sneaky lil’ fellahs they are,

Having said that, not trying to be harsh here but Argentinean generals don’t exactly have a very successful record against anyone capable of shooting back at them!

Uh…depend, when they faced armed people who was trying to make a FARC like separated territory in our country the result was always the complete destruction of the guerrilla.

Of course when they tried to accupate the place of the civilians ( taht is ruling a country) …the result wasnt good.

Mostly, Americans are done with his foolishness as well, he rants and raves,on one hand offers free heating oil to various states,(just to be nice,) then on the other, threatens to end sales of oil to the entire U.S. (like it matters)
The man is a flake, and for the sake of his own people, he should be removed, and made president of Patagonia.

The man is a flake, and for the sake of his own people, he should be removed, and made president of Patagonia.

So near ?, no man, away with him. Siberia sounds better.

I thought they were about the same climate, but distance is an asset . although he may enjoy being in a formerly Communist country.

No, the Patagonia is too tender for him, beside we can conduct an experiment, how long a caribbean crak head dictador could survive in cold enviroment ? Hopefully not much.

No problem, just drop him off where the Siberian railway ends, with a tent, and a case of rum.A dry land pirate.ARRR Matey!

U.S.-made smart bombs said used by Colombia in Ecuador raid

Quito, Mar 21, 2008 (EFE via COMTEX) –

Colombia used U.S.-made smart bombs in a March 1 attack on a FARC rebel camp in Ecuador, El Comercio newspaper reported here Friday, citing a report from the Ecuadorian air force…

http://individual.com/story.php?story=79690596

One of the sites of impact:

PK, the colombian army has done very well in the last 6 years or so, and the FARc are quickly becoming a thing of history. now that interpol has shown that Chavez has helped them, he will have to stop or risk inciting bigger problems then he already has. Karina quit this week, and desertions have increased exponentially this year. the writing is on the wall for FARC. the end is here.
as for chavez, i spend most of my time in venezuela in teh west, in zulia, and he has never been popular in those areas, but it seems people are even more sick of him. i predict that some venezuelan will have a bullet with Chavez’ name on it within the next year or so.

i predict that some venezuelan will have a bullet with Chavez’ name on it within the next year or so.

Hopefully the good God shall help those people to achieve that :rolleyes: