So your corobborating source is a forum? Lemme guess - most of the posters reference el malvinese???
Qué?
Must do better.[/quote]
forum?,it has works,photos,videos,it’s a webportal,not only a forum .
hacelo mejor loco!
So your corobborating source is a forum? Lemme guess - most of the posters reference el malvinese???
Qué?
Must do better.[/quote]
forum?,it has works,photos,videos,it’s a webportal,not only a forum .
hacelo mejor loco!
No Erwin - not an Argentinian site I said. Something from the US or France or Germany or Australia or Russia or China or any other country in the world.
Try again.
kicking soldiers,suking bayonets in their eyes,shoooting 2 shots in the heads to a wounded soldier (they did worst things,but this are the bramley words)
It was a battle - what should they have been doing with their bayonets other than sticking them into the enemy?
I am amused by you calling a bayonet charge a ‘war crime’ and then defending the SS in another thread though.
No Erwin - not an Argentinian site I said. Something from the US or France or Germany or Australia or Russia or China or any other country in the world.
Try again.
kicking soldiers,suking bayonets in their eyes,shoooting 2 shots in the heads to a wounded soldier (they did worst things,but this are the bramley words)
It was a battle - what should they have been doing with their bayonets other than sticking them into the enemy?
I am amused by you calling a bayonet charge a ‘war crime’ and then defending the SS in another thread though.[/quote]
well.
if that of the kicking isn’t enough:
Testimonios :
“Al llegar a la cima nos encontramos con el Cabo Pedemonte que estaba herido. No pudimos auxiliarlo, nos escondimos detrás de unas rocas, y desde allí vimos que los ingleses lo golpearon y le ordenaron que se quitara el casco, tambien le sacaron sus armas y su campera. De pronto, uno saca una ametralladora y le tiran cinco balazos en la cabeza. Nos miramos y pensamos: está muerto.”
“Resulté herido cuando me replegaba desde Tumble Down hacia el cerro Dos Hermanas. De pronto vimos venir un helicóptero y pensamos que era un aparato de rescate. Dos de mis comapñeros hicieron señas y ví como les disparaban a pesar de estar con los brazos en alto. ¿Ellos no habían recibido la información del cese de las hostilidades?, pensé. Yo pude esconderme detrás de una gran piedra. Desde allí observé que ese helicóptero estaba ultimando sistemáticamente a los heridos. Lo hacía con verdadera saña.”
“Fui combatiente en Darwin, como mimbro del grupo de Artillería Aerotransportada 4. Cuando caímos prisioneros nos alojaron en un galpón. Los ingleses seleccionaron a un grupo de nosotros para que recogiéramos municiones, artefactos explosivos y cuerpos que habían quedado en el campo de batalla. Ese mismo día se produjo una gran explosión y las esquirlas perforaron las chapas. A través de esos orificios vimos con horror a cinco soldados argentinos que habían sido mutilados por la onda expansiva.
Gritaban fuerte, muy fuerte… Inmediatamente fueron ejecutados por los ingleses.”“Encontré otro día a un muchacho de otro Regimiento. Caminaba con la mirada perdida, semienloquecido. Había tenido un encuentro con el Primer Batallón de Fusileros Gurkas del Duque de Edimburgo. Él había conseguido sobrevivir a la feroz matanza que hicieron. Me contó que violaron y mutilaron a los pobres soldados tomados por sorpresa.”
“Como habían pasado varias horas y nosotros seguíamos resitiendo, los ingleses nos intimidaron para rendirnos o bombardearían Puerto Darwin con fuego naval, inclusive con los kelpers que manteníamos prisioneros.”
“Al final tuve que firmar un acuerdo por el cual jamás me levantaría en armas contra el gobierno inglés, o de otra forma me fusilarían.”
“Yo estaba en Puerto Darwin, prisionero con otros 1.050 argentinos. Fuimos obligados por soldados ingleses a trasladar municiones. Delante mismo de nuestros ojos vimos cuando explotó un proyectil y algunos soldados quedaron despedazados.”
YOU HAD TO READ THAT ALSO!!!.
about the other sites,other countries only learn your version.
Kicking? Shooting? Bayoneting? On a Battlefield? That’s an outrage!
I bet the evil criminals used loud voices too.
So every country in the world other than Argentina is wrong and you are right?
Even the countries that would have been the first to broadcast British losses, such as the Soviet Union?
Find me one site anywhere in the world (other then Argentina) that corroborates anything you have said.
I´m sure that the Russkies would have loved to use your version for cold war propaganda purposes, had it been at all plausible.
Hmm… so this kid is the only survivor of an attack by a Gurkha battalion that as far as I remember never actually got into combat? The rest of those stories are highly implausible (and I notice that unlike the last set no source is given - funny that) but this section is downright mendacious.
if they believe to your propaganda,YES!
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Hmm… so this kid is the only survivor of an attack by a Gurkha battalion that as far as I remember never actually got into combat? The rest of those stories are highly implausible (and I notice that unlike the last set no source is given - funny that) but this section is downright mendacious.[/quote]
i believe there was another kid survivor,if he had luck. implausible?,they are true,those soldiers are veterans,no inventors
if they believe to your propaganda,YES![/quote]
I don’t need to believe any propaganda, I’ve seen the photos of HMS Invincible coming home to Portsmouth, your propaganda claims that we lost more aircraft than we actually sent to the Falklands, I’ve been on two of the ships that your sources claim were heavily damaged (the Argentinian surrender was signed on one of them), I’ve seen the casualty lists for the war (and there’s not a single Gurkha who’s name coincidentally happens to be two Indian towns either).
Hmmm… one side was a military dictatorship with no freedom of speech and whose journalists were limited to Stanley when they got out to the Falklands at all. The other practically invented the concept and had a large number of journalists actually in the front lines with their own troops. Read Going to the Wars by Max Hastings for rather a good account of what the Journalists saw and did during the Falklands war. They were right up at the front in virtually all the battles, Kim Sabido for instance going with L company (a rifle company) of 42 Commando during the attack on Mount Harriet. While it is possible that the government could have suppressed anything it didn’t want broadcast during the war, after the war it would have been impossible to hide.
or if they believe to the anti galtieri propaganda in argentine tv .
i guess you are living in the 82 when it is 2005!
You are only showing that you haven’t got any knowledge or any evidence to defend the british position. You are only saying “the islands are british because the flag is there”.
It’s the same if you say “this car is mine because I stoled it”
I repeat you as in my first post. If you have knowledges and respects, post here. If you don’t so don’t do it.
Please name one part of the world that was not stolen from someone else at some point or other.
PS - argentina was stolen from the natives by the Spanish. So if your logic were applied to Argentina, then Argentina has no claim to Argentina, cos they stole it.
we are talking about malvinas,you are changing the topic
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we are talking about malvinas,you are changing the topic[/quote]
Oh no! Perfectly sound logic that disagrees with you! Quick! Change topic!
[quote=“Erwin Schätzer(argentina)”]
we are talking about malvinas,you are changing the topic[/quote]
No he’s not, he’s using the example of Argentina not being populated by the indiegnous people of the region to show why the “Spain found it first, so it belongs to Argentina now” arguments are crap.
we are talking about malvinas,you are changing the topic[/quote]
No he’s not, he’s using the example of Argentina not being populated by the indiegnous people of the region to show why the “Spain found it first, so it belongs to Argentina now” arguments are crap.[/quote]
it’s not your problem,you are not argentine or indiegnous so go with your problems.
you don’t claim argentina.
That’s not the point, Stoat.
We are discussing another thing here.
And you are not indigenous to the Falklands, so why do they affect you?