Why are you americans so eager to mess in this matter where you are completely out of place.
Anyways you did the same during the war: you provided the Brits with brand new Sidewinders, and Stingers, because british missiles were not suited for the task. I mean you, or your Government. It has been even said that in case our AIr Force had sank a british carrier, the US Navy would provide a Tarawa class minicarrier to the RN.
You yankees and brits are brothers in screwing the world ! !
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Quite apart from the mod warning, your post is factually incorrect. The Sidewinders used in the Falklands were a model already in service with the UK - what the US did was to provide additional stocks of the missile to the UK, allowing them to use the missiles without drawing on warstocks dedicated to NATO. This was clearly self-interest on the part of the US, because if they hadn’t there is a strong chance the UK would have decided “screw NATO” and used the missiles anyway. Stinger was only used by some special forces units, and accounted for one or two aircraft at most - hardly a war-winning weapon.
Finally, the Tarawa class of warships are LPHs, not carriers - externally similar, but very poorly suited to the type of carrier operations being carried out in the Falklands. The “offer” was very tentative - essentially made at the level of various admirals musing that they had spare warships of this class that they weren’t doing very much with and their friends in the RN could probably borrow one if needed. In reality, crewing issues (finding several thousand RN sailors to man a ship they’d never seen before and take it into a war zone) would have been insurmountable. If they had ever been that desperate, the RN would probably have reactivated HMS Bulwark (scrapped at about the time of the Falklands war) as well as the various sailors who had served on her since the end of WW2. Desperate measures, but better than nothing…
Rather less than, say, Germany and Japan in the past century, but, so far as defeating Argentina goes during the Falklands War the Americans were nowhere near as helpful to Britain as was France. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1387576/How-France-helped-us-win-Falklands-war-by-John-Nott.html
LOL. Well, it seems to me that the Americans had been lending to the Argentinians the use of an American aircraft carrier parked offshore so that its naval air force could practice take-offs and landings for at least a decade prior to the Falklands War. I guess aid to one does not equal aid to the other.
Argentina’s South American neighbor, Chili, was also quite hospitable to her British adversary I understand. I do recall–although I was rather young at the time but the Falklands War was CNN’s first televised, round-the-clock war on TV–hearing that the Argentine military junta gov’t erroneously, if not absurdly, expected the U.S. gov’t under the Reagan Administration to side with it. Or to at least to remain neutral on the basis that the U.S. and Argentina were continental, nominally anti-communist allies. This wishful thinking belied the fact that the U.S. and U.K. shared NATO membership and a cultural heritage buoyed by the shared historical alliances in WWI and WWII. Also not too mention the fact that the Argentine dictatorship was trying to conquer and subsume residents who enjoyed a vastly different cultural, and political, tradition and force them into either an alien citizenship or expulsion based on a questionable, lawless territorial claim and a need to distract the Argentine populations’ attention from the inherent political failures and resulting economic malaise of their own shitty, tin-pot bastards…
New book came out " Tras los Submarinos Ingleses " After the British Subs -
Written by Mariano Sciaroni tells the story behind aircraft carrier 25 de Mayo and it’s defence against British Subs HMS Splendid and HMS Spartan -
Looks interesting.
The only description I could find in English was http://bookstove.com/book-talk/malvinas-looking-for-english-subs/
Do you know if there is anything more detailed in English?
We Come Unseen by Jim Ring has quite a good section from the UK side, although you get the feeling there are substantial chunks that those he’s talking to are leaving out for whatever reason,
There is no english version yet for this book , the author is looking forward to have it translate .- We can get the author’s e mail and get in touch with him for details on his book .-
Regards Enrique
Oh my god, this discussion went on for years? I joined this site around 2005 and left a couple of years later. I’m sure people would still be arguing about this if the forums weren’t half dead 
Anyway, this was/is a good community and it’s nice to see it’s still going on. Forgive me if this is a bit off-topic =)
Good to see you back Tex. The Falklands/Malvinas is still going on in reality too. Just read an article on Yahoo about Argentina banging their drums again, and the island inhabitants voting on referendum to remain allied to the UK. If I can find it, I’ll post the link.
To avoid any possible claims of bias, here’s a link from the Guardian, a paper that seems to think it was a pity Argentina didn’t win in '82.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/mar/12/falkland-islands-diplomatic-offensive-argentina
A more than 90% voter turnout decided by a majority of 99.8% to remain British, however the Argentine Ambassador to the UK, Alicia Castro, says the vote is "totally irrelevant, and the Argentinie Foreign Minister, Héctor Timerman claims it is “illegal.”
Presumably then all other democratic polls are similarly totally irrelevant and illegal.
I wonder how they will break it to President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner that the national poll that voted her in is irrelevant and illegal ?
I wish they would logic, but unfortunately people don’t seem to be able to do that any more…
I suppose that the Argentinians are concerned that the sheep (who vastly outnumber the people on the Falklands) were not given a vote. Seriously, one presumes that (apart from a certain issue of national pride), the real point here (though Argentina seldom mentions it) is that taking over the Falklands would give them a “front” onto the Antarctic, something that could yield immense economic benefit in the long term. One can, perhaps, have some understanding of the argument that the current human population of the Islands was “transported there by a colonial power”. However, one could equally say that much of the current population of South America got there as a result of their ancestors having been transported there by colonial powers (the Spanish and Portuguese Empires), and I assume that the majority of, for example, Argentinians of non-indigenous descent have no immediate plans to return to the Iberian Peninsula or, indeed, West Africa. And, of course, the Irish Nationalist community should be considering expelling the Unionists from Ulster; after all, they were “transported there by a colonial power” in the 17th century. One could go on … This post-colonial argument has little running these days. One can speak of exceptions (Hong Kong and Macau, for example) but, generally, the only approach to such situations (unless one wants perpetual international conflict based on “historic claims”) is to let the counters lie where they are.
One possible solution just occurs to me - annex the Malvinas to the Papal States … Best regards, JR.
Yep, let the Islanders vote on that.
Oh…
Thanks. I’m aware of the current developments concerning the islands. Yes, it’s still a relevant issue. But I don’t think the war itself is important subject in the fields of history and military science. Most of the discussion surrounding the subject is just nationalistic babble.
It was bound to happen though I didn’t think it’d occur so rapidly.
Someone’s got a sad on and run to daddy.
Hi, I just thought I would let you know, that I have now finished my account of the 3rd Battalion The Parachute Regiment during the Falklands war,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_vwXyOsiM8
It specifically concentrates on the last three days of the war, i.e. the battle for Longdon, the occupation and finally the move into Port Stanley. It is written with an accurate time and understandable sequence of events throughout the battle and the following days. Over 50 veterans of the battle were interviewed for the book, the majority were British, but we had a number of Argentine veterans whose help was invaluable in pointing out various machine gun positions and letting me know who was where and which men were manning the various Heavy Machine Guns.
It is now available on Amazon Kindle, However you do not need a Kindle or Ipad, it can be read on your home computer or Laptop by using firstly this link http://www.amazon.com/kindleforpc
Then using this link, http://www.amazon.co.uk/Three-days-in-June-ebook/dp/B00DMFMZWQ/ref=zg_bs_362344031_18 this will take you to the Amazon book page.
I am at the moment making enquiries about a hard backed version, which I am certain will be out shortly.
All the very best,
Bye for now Jimmy O’Connell