Falklands/Malvinas war pictorial. Post yours ¡¡¡.

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#21

Fair enough.

So, to evaluate just how nasty it was, what happened to the Argentinian in the picture?

Bamboo under the fingernails?

Water torture?

Something akin to the Burma Railway?

Something akin to the Kempei Tai?

Tied to a tree and bayoneted until he died?

Staked out in the burning sun until … (Nope, it’s cold down there and, worse, the Argentinians staked out their own soldiers in the cold. That’s nasty!)?

Or just starved and finished the war half his original body weight … (Inflicted purely by Britain as distinct from similar results inflicted by Argentina’s own army, which is nasty!)?

Or did he just have a hood over his head?

Oh, yes. Very nasty.

#22

On the nasty scale from 1 to 10, where would you rate (a) a blindfolded and bound POW being taken somewhere and (b) a blindfolded and bound POW about to have his head chopped off?

#23

Incidently Panzerknacker the pics here…

http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Falklands/NP8901.html

Which all show the faces of the Royal Marine POWs and the pictures of them lying face down on the ground, as APCs rumble past, also border on war crimes. POWs should be protected from humiliation.

You mean this ?

who knows…maybe some officer of the tactical diver unit had lost a contact lens and the brits were helping to found that.

Jokes aside, relax man and post some picture.

#24

I would post the pics but I couldn’t get them off the site, that is why I indicated their location instead.

The point I am making, although the soldiers in the pictures aren’t being a abused, and could argueably be said to be better treated than the Argie in the blindfold. The Argentines used these pictures as part fo their media offensive.

Which in itself is a bit nasty.

#25

I don’t have a problem with the photos of the British prisoners in Panzerknacker’s last post, or any use of them at the time or since.

Any more than I do with the blindfolded Argentinian or countless other photos of POW’s in any other war at or after the point of capture, if they’re just routine pictures of the routine consequences of capture.

There is a ‘home side’ sensitivity at times to such issues.

The deplorably exultant ‘Gotcha’ headline on the sinking of the Belgrano strikes me as a lot more offensive than a picture of what seems to be a routine manner of dealing with disarmed British prisoners after capture.

My training a dozen or so years before the Falklands War would have had prisoners lying prone with their hands clasped behind their heads (as in one of PK’s pix), or sitting cross-legged with their hands clasped behind their heads, after a quick and thorough search which, if resisted, could have resulted in anything up to death.

One can argue that such things offend the laws of war

…prisoners of war must at all times be protected, particularly against acts of violence or intimidation and against insults and public curiosity.

Article 13, Geneva Convention relative to the Treatment of Prisoners of War
http://www.unhchr.ch/html/menu3/b/91.htm

I don’t think they offend the laws of war or common sense any more than a picture of someone in handcuffs being escorted into court or a police station in civilian criminal matters.

#26

To be honest rising sun, I feel the same way about the Gotcha and all of the POW pictures.

The Suns headline was a bit insensitive and quite frankly, base. It is to be remembered however, it was actually pulled when the full casualty figures came in. The Belgrano casualty list shocked the British as much as the Argentines, bearing in mind that the Brits had been in combat in NI for years.

The POW pictures, well C’est la guerre. Brit or Argie, even the bit where the Argies treated the stragglers that were caught later maybe a bit rough, but in the context of a war there are no biggies.

What will annoy me, is someone deliberatly posting such pictures in a manner that makes one side or other out to be the bad guy. Especially where the side painted out to be the good guys are responsible for as bad or worse behaviour.

#27

British SBS treating wounded prisoners at Fanning Head San Carlos. When it came to the treatment of wounded men, the British prioritised them according to need rather than nationality.

The conscript prisoners looked absolutely terrified, and apparently believed the stories they had been told by their superiors that the British were rather fond of eating any prisoners that they captured! Even though they had been expertly treated by the SBS medics with battlefield splints and bandages for their bullet wounds, they were still very wary.

My boys and I had but a single purpose: to make sure no wounded marine, paratrooper, guardsman or Gurkha succumbed to his injuries. Nearly 200 enemy wounded were also treated with the same considerations, inspired by the “humanity in victory” that Nelson had prayed for on the morning of his death off Cape Trafalgar.

Dr Rick Jolly OBE

In 1998, while visiting Argentina with HRH The Prince of Wales, he prepared and sent ahead a list of Argentine wounded treated by his team, enquiring as to what happened to them. When the Argentine authorities spoke to their own people and found about the British battlefield care of their wounded, they invited over fifty of them to the ceremony in Buenos Aires - and then appointed him as an Oficial (Officer) in the Orden de Majo (Order of May) in recognition of his humanity.

Rick Jolly is the only man to have been decorated by both sides.

#28

Rick has a book out now, where some of the quotes above come from.

“red and green live machine” the nickname given to the field hospital.

580 British casualties came in, only 3 succombed to their wounds whilst there. 200+ Argentine casualties were also treated.

Included in this was influx of 160 casualties in just 2 hours, from the Welsh Guards and the Bluff Cove/Sir Tristam incident, and the nearly 50 wounded Paras from Goose Green.

#29

Agreed.

Plus a picture doesn’t necessarily tell us what’s really happening, even if it seems to be obvious.

#30

British SBS treating wounded prisoners at Fanning Head San Carlos. When it came to the treatment of wounded men, the British prioritised them according to need rather than nationality.

Nice picture, that is the spirit, more pictures and less words.

Army chaplain (catholic) on duty.

Just arrived troops.

AFB.

Splinter damage after the air attacks 1th may.

#31

Looks a bit young doesn’t he?

The memorial of the Argentine dead. So many young lads killed for the governments vain stupidity.

#32

No offence Panzerknacker,

But somehow a memorial that remembers the dead of such a fools errand (from the area of Ushuiai) that also declares there will be a return, somehow doesn’t seem right.

Canberra (the Great White Whale) returns home.

HMS SPartan returns home

#33

With the 25th anniversary of the Falklands War coming up next month, British security forces on the Falklands are getting ready for any actions taken by Argentines. “The Argentine government is very different from the one in 1982 but is pressing its sovereignty claim and has reduced co-operation,” said Falklands governor Alan Huckle on recent rhetoric from the Kirchner administration.

Interesting point, as well as the SLR (British) and FN FAL (Argentine) being the same (except the Argentine weapon was able to go Auto by switch, than by modification with a match stick). Both sides used the GPMG, another FN product. British tracer was red and the ammo was 4:1, 4 ball to 1 tracer. Argentine tracer was green, and 1:1:1 or 1 ball, 1 AP and 1 tracer.

No too long in to the war, this became irrelevant as the British used Argentine ammuntion that they had captured.

Probably by men such as these.

Men of the Support Coy, 45 Cdo, Yomping to Port Stanley with the Union Flag high on the whip antenna of a PRC-350.

One of the most famous images of the War.

And here is another famous image, and controversal.

HMS Conqueror returning to Scotland, with a Jolly Roger flying to indicate a successful cruise (ie the sinking of ARA General Belgrano).

Some people, including British people, thought it a bit off. Actually it is a tradition taht dates back to the very earliest submarine actions in the Royal Navy. So the PC Brigade can do one.

She also could have had a broom to indicate a “clean sweep”, every target engaged sunk. But for what ever reason, she did not fly a broom.

#34

Nice but the monument are post 1982.

Landing.

Gurkhas

Gurkhas ?

#35

Nope, they are Brits. At a guess I would suggest they are Scots Guards. Purely because they are equipped with civie bergans. 3 Cdo Bde (with 2 and 3 Para) didn’t have time to purchase these, but 5 Inf Bde did.

WRT memorials, They are pictures relating to the falklands regardless of when they were taken or the objects in them built.

The topic doesn’t specify anything specific about the pictures other than they are Falklands pictures.

Soooooo…


a Rock Hopper penguin, indiginous to the Falklands.

#36

Nope, they are Brits.

OK.

WRT memorials, They are pictures relating to the falklands regardless of when they were taken or the objects in them built.

The topic doesn’t specify anything specific about the pictures other than they are Falklands pictures.

Soooooo…

A penguin ? give me a break. :rolleyes:

Men of the Support Coy, 45 Cdo, Yomping to Port Stanley with the Union Flag high on the whip antenna of a PRC-350.

One of the most famous images of the War

Your picture dint came out.

#37

Well, it did on my original check, and I have just popped up to have another look and it is still there.

Must be YOUR computer.

Let’s see if these come out…


Pilot Whales stranded on a beach, the Soldiers are there to help them. Just one of the many tasks undertaken by the British Garrison to help conservation and the environment.

Although the squad assigned to pick up penguins from the end of the runway is a mere myth used on gullable females in clubs. The pretense being the penguins watch aircraft take off and fall on their backs, where upon they can’t get up again.


THe Union Flag flying proud, on West Point Island of the Falklands. Long may it fly.


Mixed in with the rockhopper penguins and their chicks were black browed albatrosses and their young. Many of these albatross, with their distinctive black eye brows and bright yellow-orange bills, had followed our cruise ship the Hanseatic from Ushuaia, Argentina, to the Falkland Islands. The black browed albatross make their nests, which look like a small pot or cone, from mud and grass. They are usually found on steep, rocky slopes. We were fascintated to see these two species–the rockhopper penguin and the black browed albatross–living together A single black browed albatross egg is incubated for 68 days, and the chicks fledge at 120 days. The black browed albatross is the most abundant of all the albatrosses, with over 600,000 pairs found world-wide.

I love going to the Falkland Islands. I always like to get amongst the nature.

#38

Righ on, now the picture is visible.

Well…after this very illustrative Nat geo gallery we going back to the war.:slight_smile:

Soldiers with penguin (again)

With captured Flag.

Achtung mines.

#39

Very rare photo, that bottom one.

It is of the ONLY MINE sign the Argentine Sappers took to the Falklands.

#40

Colonel Mohamed Ali Seineldin. Infantry Regiment 25.

With Busser and Castellanos.