Vell, if it be ze beauties ve vant to be in, I should like to be in Vonss.
'Cos she’s ze girl vot put ze cock in cockpit.
Und der SS in VonSS.
Now, VonSS, mein Liebchen, as a mod I must draw to your attention a rule that avatars should be related to WWII.
While you have nice legs, and a great deal of them, and much as I would like to see where they join, I cannot see that your avatar meets the forum requirments.
Could you post evidence of how your avatar meets forum requirements?
Focke-Wulf 190; outclasses all fighters from the United States,Britain,Soviet Union,France,and Germany herself.
I cannot see that your avatar meets the forum requirments.
I had posted like 3 times with out any confrontations about my avatar,so I thought I had no problems and keep to the rules; I’m sorry, if you feel this way.
Could you post evidence of how your avatar meets forum requirements?
I thought she was wearing period wwII female uniform from United States nose art on American Bombers,in the mean time,I will hunt for another appropiate avatar,give me some time.
My apoligies.
Hello to all, for my part is the Fock Wulf Ta 152 H which remains one of the most beautiful and formidable fighter of WWII, although built with very few copies (about 60) and only 20 were delivered in unity, it remains the most successful fighter of the war.
Sincerely Fred.
PS:The avatar that I started is also the only decoration known on a Ta 152H1 of JG300
Spare me the bullshit, pussy cat.
Your avatar comes from http://www.racycostumes.com/racycostumesblog/2009/06/04/army-girl-costumes/army-first-line-of-defense/ It has nothing to do with nose art.
You’ve been here before. It will end the same way if you don’t behave.
There will be no, repeat no, tolerance of anything that looks even remotely like trolling or any other disruptive behaviour. You’ll be banned in the wink of an eye.
Excuse me, but how was a garage-queen fighter with numerous technical problems and that saw few instances of combat in minuscule numbers the “most successful fighter of the war?”
I think the Google translator, has still not well translated Nickdfresh. I just wanted to talk about performance (speed, altitude) and not as it was translated that damn Google aerial victory. Sorry but my English is not good and I use Google Translate.
Sincerely Fred
The Ta.152 H series was no more of a garage queen then the P51.H, or K, or the P47.J.
That few reached operational status among the units assigned to receive the Ta.152 H series does not, ipso facto, make of the series an garage queen.
Rather, it dramatically highlights that the supply and development infrastructure available to Germany at that late stage of the war was almost on its’ last gasp, as mentioned in the Monte Cassino thread, and variously agreed between yourself, I, and a few others.
To my eyes, it is somewhat invidious and iniquitous to label the Ta.152 H series a “garage queen” or “hangar queen” when the necessary support facilities had by that stage all but ceased to exist.
A parallel can be seen in the case of the P82/F82 Twin Mustang: a fine and near superlative aircraft, denied a proper place in aeronautical history because its’ main sponsor, the USAF suddenly got cold feet and withdrew 90% of the support the aircraft required to perform effectively, then blamed the aircraft and crews, rather than the USAF itself admit the fault of having starved and neglected the few F82’s it did permit to enter operational service.
Would I willingly have gone to war flying a Ta.152H (politics aside)? … Hell YES.
Would I have willingly flown an F82 against the Japanese or North Koreans? … Hell YES.
The aircraft cannot take the blame for the circumstances in which it had to operate.
Kind and Respectful Regards Nick my friend, Uyraell.
Excuse me, but how was a garage-queen fighter with numerous technical problems and that saw few instances of combat in minuscule numbers the “most successful fighter of the war?”
I high lighted the main points here!
Focke-Wulf Fw 190
The Focke-Wulf Fw 190 Würger, was a German, single-seat, single-engine fighter aircraft designed by Kurt Tank in the 1930s. It was used by the Luftwaffe during the Second World War. It partially replaced the Messerschmitt Bf 109 in 1941. Over 20,000 were manufactured, including around 6,000 fighter-bomber models. Production ran from 1941 to the end of hostilities, during which time the aircraft was continually updated. Its later versions retained qualitative parity with Allied fighter aircraft. The Fw 190 was well-liked by its pilots, and was quickly proven to be superior in all but turn radius to the Royal Air Force’s main front line fighter, the Spitfire Mk. V variant, on its combat debut in 1941. The early Fw 190As performance decreased at high altitudes which complicated its use as a high altitude interceptor. These complications were mostly rectified in later models and the introduction of the Focke-Wulf Fw 190D variant. Like the Bf 109, the Fw 190 was employed as a “workhorse”, and proved suitable for a wide variety of roles, including Air superiority fighter, Strike fighter, Ground-attack aircraft, Escort fighter, and Night fighter. Some of the Luftwaffe’s most successful fighter aces flew the Fw 190. Erich Rudorffer claimed 222 kills, Otto Kittel 267 victories, and Walter Nowotny 258 victories. A great many of their kills were claimed while flying the Fw 190.
Why? So you could distinguish your post from the source from which you plagiarised it? http://ww2.playcomet.com/encyclopedia/focke-wulf-fw-190.html
Which derives from Wiki.
Wiki and games sites are not regarded on this forum as authorities worth citing, but you already know that from your previous banned identities here.
Do it again and I’ll ban you.
Actually, maybe I should just pull the pin on you now, as that’s how it’s going to end sooner or later as you’re here to disrupt, not to make useful contributions.
If your avatar doesn’t change to a proper WWII one within 24 hours, you’re gone.
Hello all, I agree with you Rising Sun, is that Wiki has never been a source of reliable information and that if you copy the articles, it is better to take other sources of information before publish, find that it avoids a little ridiculous persons face who knows the subject.
Regards Fred
It could and can be, but the problem is that it allows (or at least allowed) anyone to contribute their ignorance in the guise of knowledge.
Many Wiki articles are very well informed, and many aren’t. Many are in the middle.
The problem with Wiki and other internet sites is that, unless you already know enough to know that the article isn’t well informed in which case you don’t need it, you lack the knowledge to realise that its ‘knowledge’ is wrong.
This is where it becomes problematic Rising Sun, as you said, if your knowledge is enough you do not need, but otherwise little that induce erroneous judgments, that is why I said that it is better to cross information with other sites, but how many people actually do.
Regards Fred
It’s a much bigger problem.
Not so long ago people used to refer to books for information, but usually without any knowledge of the reliability of the author or his or her research. But there was at least some hope that the editorial process had subjected the text to critical analysis, and footnotes, if any, offered the opportunity to verify the source.
With Wiki and other internet sites, there are no grounds for such hope.
We are on the verge of the uninformation(as distinct from disinformation) age, pretending to be the information age.
I see. The plane did have some impressive potential. But it never really came close to fruition nor having an impact due to the many technical problems and shortages Germany was facing…
I can’t totally agree with that. Maybe I’ve overstated things a bit, but the Ta.152 suffered more than its share of problems with its engine and was rushed into service prematurely in a desperate effort to vainly counter Allied day-time bombing. The P-51H was actually deploying and several hundred were in service by the end of the War, though none saw combat. It was in some ways an improvement over the P-51D in terms of control and was essentially the fasted production piston-engined fighter of WWII IIRC. The P-47J I can’t comment on as I don’t know enough about it…
It would have been nice if she/it actually cited the correct Wiki article…
You’re right on the subject, Nickdfresh, but I am speaking at the perfomances of the aircraft. When he came out, no Allied aircraft could compete with him, whether at the speed reached or the service ceiling.
Sincerely Fred
To reply about the speed, the P51 was far from reaching the perfomances of Ta 152H1, even his latest releases. Indeed, during testing Rechlin, he has reached the fantastic speed for a piston engine aircraft of the time, 820 km / h and an altitude of nearly 15,000 ft, you will tell me that when He was tested by the Allies, it was not the case, except you must know that the aircraft was recovered by this, had cracked cylinder heads and other engine compressor problems, recurring sore this device, which at its output had already does most of special materials, accidents with this aircraft were caused mostly by rupture of the compressor, fortunately for us, because it would have been the most dangerous opponent that allied aircraft have a fight.
To give an example, Kurt Tank had the habit of always testing his own aircraft, one day it took off from a base that I can remember the name, this one was headed by four marauding Mustang, Kurt Tank did that a single thing, put the throttle fully, according to the report made by American pilots, this saw a new plane, which was unknown to them and who are accelerating their approach without this could not be reached, in this says something about the capacity of the Ta 152.
Sincerly Fred
Hello mr. fredl,
Could it be so that you have a hard data on Ta-152 reaching 820 km/h (level flight?)
Cheers,
Tomislav