German war dead no one wants to remember

Mine does too, I usually have to repeatedly click on the reply button…

Mine has been doing that for ages. Press the button a second time (doesn’t look like it will allow you to, but it does) and it should bring up what you’re after.

Nick and pdf27 are correct.

Wish I’d thought of that before rebooting, and giving up using reply with quote when that didn’t work.

All he needed to know was that his Soviet handler really wanted Russia to have it

So did we “give them” uranium or not? Nothing above says we did, just that they made “requests”. Reading comprehension my boy…
Indeed you lack reading comprehension. What did you want me to do, transcribe the whole chapter? Sorry I haven’t the time to hold your hand and gently guide you along, particularly when you’re kicking and screaming the whole way

It seems like maybe the author here is completely full of shit and engaging in selective semantics and sophistry.
A hilarious charge, especially coming from you.
I would also add that he seems to be a rather poor writer, even accounting for your inability to spell check or use proper grammar. He’s certainly fooled you into believing we actually gave the Soviets “tons” of uranium when there is no evidence that we delivered an once of it.
Uhmmm, the company said they gave it to them, and kept records. What further evidence do you require? My guess is that you will raise the standard of evidence as high as it needs to be to maintain your ignorant bliss
It’s called using selective facts out of context known as red herrings…
Thanks for describing your posting style.

As far as Lend Lease, we certainly gave the Soviets a lot of stuff
Including uranium for their nuclear program
after all they destroyed about 80% of the Wehrmacht, IIRC.
yeah they sure were heroic, weren’t they? But in return, we destroyed 100% of the Japanese, so what’s your point?

Thanks for showing I’m right though, apology accepted in advance…
Unsurprisingly, you’ve dug in your heels, closed your eyes and covered your ears. And it’s hilarious that you cite Drew Pearson and attempt to discredit Paul Kengor in the same reply. You lack honor, and you lack curiosity

(Sigh !). Information - fine. Opinion - fine (as long as its expression is intelligible). Corrections - grand (as long as their expression is helpful and respectful). Ad hominem attacks ? No. That sort of thing has no place In Here. Rather a Washout, in fact. By the way - in what country is “the Masturbatory” located ? Or is it a state of mind, like Macbeth’s dagger ? Anyway, do we have to put up with infantile smut posing as information as to a poster’s location ? Oops … I shouldn’t be bothering with this sort of thing, should I … ? JR.

Quote As far as Lend Lease, we certainly gave the Soviets a lot of stuff, after all they destroyed about 80% of the Wehrmacht, end Quote.

I don’t by that. Many will not give the Germans credit. Germans nearly took Moscow / Stalingrad.

Russians had US war equipment and weapons etc… and were getting a beating from the Wehrmacht. Why not sooner? why after the winter hit.?

How much?

What grade?

When?

For what Soviet nuclear weapons program?

Why did the US supply the USSR with uranium during WWII when the US was preoccupied with its own nuclear program, and the USA’s only cooperative program for development of nuclear weapons involved the British?

Who is ‘we’?

As for ‘a lot of stuff’, that is true. But the Soviets produced vastly more from their own resources. That major contribution to their own survival is overlooked by those who think that without Lend Lease the USSR would have crumbled. Lend Lease probably made a far greater proportionate contribution to Britain’s ability to continue to fight the war.

The Heer, perhaps. The Wehrmacht, no. The Soviets weren’t prominent in the sea war.

Yes, and Germany nearly took North Africa and nearly defeated Britain in the Battle of Britain and nearly won in Normandy after D Day and nearly won in the Battle of the Bulge etc etc etc. But it didn’t. Which is why it lost the war, leaving much of Germany in ruins and its people devastated. And that’s the loss that matters.

It, like wankers, knows no borders.

It’s a state of mind, but only a seminal one.

Nor should I, but some things are hard to resist.

I want you to UNDERSTAND the chapter. NO uranium was ever sent to Russia. The whole thing is a red herring. There was no “Soviet handler.” If there was, then what was his name? All that happened here was a general request of a Soviet wishlist being passed on under the Lend Lease program. Hopkins had nothing to do with specifics! I’m guessing he had little idea of what uranium was nor its significance. The reason why Gen. Groves had to go “public” (to Congress) is because he was in charge of what was largely a top secret research program, and he knew what it was for. Groves “vetoed” the requests, thus none was delivered to the U.S.S.R., which apparently shows you cannot read and also that your author is writing dubiously confusing chapters…

But feel to provide any evidence that the United States actually delivered uranium to the Soviets, because everything else said they got if from Germany, parts of Europe, and then discovered their own domestic sources!

A hilarious charge, especially coming from you. Uhmmm, the company said they gave it to them, and kept records. What further evidence do you require?

They DIDN’T “give it to them.” The request was VETOED by the director of the Manhattan Project! One of the relative few that was aware of the scale and scope of developing an atomic bomb designed to wipe out a city center.

BTW, the largest figure associated with the bomb, Oppenheimer, was himself a member of the Communist Party USA! So, by your logic, everyone involved with the project, including Gen. Leslie Grove, must have been communist sympathizers! Dolt!

My guess is that you will raise the standard of evidence as high as it needs to be to maintain your ignorant bliss Thanks for describing your posting style. Including uranium for their nuclear program yeah they sure were heroic, weren’t they? But in return, we destroyed 100% of the Japanese, so what’s your point?
Unsurprisingly, you’ve dug in your heels, closed your eyes and covered your ears. And it’s hilarious that you cite Drew Pearson and attempt to discredit Paul Kengor in the same reply. You lack honor, and you lack curiosity

If you’re going to persist making an *** out of yourself, do not expect to be here long…

What don’t you “by” specifically? Who isn’t giving the Germans credit? They scored spectacular, almost mindboggling, repeated victories over the Soviets in the first two years of the war and often captured hundreds of thousands of Red Army soldiers in single operations. It didn’t matter…

The Germans came close to Moscow but never were really close of capturing it. They had long blown their wad by diverting forces into Kiev and the Ukraine and other areas of the USSR rather than concentrating on Moscow as most in the German Army commanders wanted to do. The operation was far too late in the year and had the Soviets been a bit better logistically, they not only would have defeated the Germans near Moscow as they did in the harsh winter cold, but might had delivered a crushing blow to the Heer.

Russians had US war equipment and weapons etc… and were getting a beating from the Wehrmacht. Why not sooner? why after the winter hit.?

The Russians had US weapons, but with some notable exceptions, they weren’t considered pivotal by the Soviets. Aside from the Sherman tank and the Aircobra fighter, few US weapons were used in significant numbers or for very long. It was the ‘non-lethal’ aid such as food, equipment, and trucks that had the most direct impact on the Red Forces. But the full effect wouldn’t be felt until at least 1943 and the biggest American contribution to the Soviet Red Army was enabling them to become more of a mechanized, mobile army of maneuver with the Dodge Truck in particular getting a lot of love…

We may not “hold grudges”, we may even forgive to a degree, but we will never forget what horrors and despicable acts the Germans (and the Japanese) visited upon the world. I do not condemn the individual German conscript who had to serve in the Wehrmacht; there are plenty of others for whom blame is the lightest of all possible sentences.

We know from his first campaign for the Senate that Joe McCarthy was a little less than honest. One of his slogans was, “Washington needs a tail gunner in the Senate.” Joe McCarthy was never a tail gunner, although it became widely known later on that he was “gunning for tail” of another sort. But, following Washout’s line of reasoning, since Joe McCarthy blatantly lied about his military service, I must perforce conclude that Joe McCarthy lied about just about everything, which, amazingly, proved to be true!

My grandfather, Roland Piesk, was buried on the Soldier Cemetery at the Schajkowka airbase in Russia. Location site of the grave: Schajkowka, row 7, grave 349. Altogether there are 636 notices of loss for this ground the Russians desecrated the graves. Today this area is overbuild with a garage complex, so a repositioning/transfer of remains is sadly impossible.

The VOLKSBUND issued a 100 volume documentation of all known persons dead or lost during the war in Russia, in which your grandfather’s particulars/identification papers are listed. The documentation, right now 1.060.000 names right now, is not complete, it is updated periodically with new volumes. The books are preserved in the exhibition and remembrance room in the, from the Volksbund rebuild, church “Maria Himmelfahrt” in Solobukowka be St Petersburg(Leningrad). The Church, right next to the german Soldier Cemetery and the ‘Friedenspark’, was used as a military hospital.

I hate Russia.

Yes, what sometimes happens to the war dead is despicable. I once read a story where there was a building full of German war dead in boxes and for some odd reason they were not buried and Germany will not take them either. Go figure!

The reason is Germany is not the appropriate government directs
Furthermore, now the Germans have been brain washed well with this kind of “Nazi” theme by the Jews and American democracy

Actually the Lend liase has becoming essential since mid 1943 when there been organized the 3-way of supplied via Alaska, Iran and Murmansk. The biggest effect we got was of course the trucks and jeeps, but ammo, petrol and food(conservated) was the also very importaint. The aircobra was also a effective on the Easter front ( i dunno was it effective on the other fronts?) . The shermans wasn’t suitable against german panzers, but it was damn confortable for the russian standarts( yet it have an radios and good electronic equipment). Plus i read each the each tank from USA has been suplied with a bottle of wisky , covered in gun:))))) Nice surprise