Great Westerns

Alan ladd:
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=AFquzxwYoeE

TV series - David Caradine:

http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=Wj75EFlgqOw&NR=1

Yeah, not a bad ending.

They didn’t stint themselves on the musical score or music volume did they?

I can see the relationship with the Clint Eastwood film with the little bloke under the buildings etc, who was marginally uglier than the kid in Shane, although he had the age advantage.

The dog in the saloon and its reactions to the scene as it progresses were a nice touch.

If I was going to construct a list of actors who bore me rigid, Carradine would be near the top. Or possibly just not on my list, he was so forgettable.

Please tell me that that video is a spoof, although it looks disturbingly convincing as a real TV show.

If I was going to cast a gunfighter series with Jill Ireland in it, I’d cast her hubby Charles Bronson as the gunfighter instead of Grasshopper.

Preferred his father, John Caradine. A good character actor.

Shane was also the first time they ever had the sound of a pistol firing in a closed room as loud as it really was. People in the audience actually jumped in shock at the sound.

Yes, Clint Eastwood has said many times it was the thought of re-making Yojimbo that made him travel to Spain to do “Fist Full of Dollars”. He also said that he hated the little cigars they made him smoke, he was a non-smoker.

Yes, the stance that John Wayne was in at the end of “The Searchers” was in tribute to his late friend Harry Carey, an actor who had gone from silent pictures into the talkie era. It was Harry Carey who got Wayne his start in pictures. His son was a staple in nearly all of Wayne’s movies, Harry Carey,Jr.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v280/tomasutpen/harrycarey.jpg
http://www.chronicleoftheoldwest.com/pics/harry_carey_jr.jpg

You mean she was horny!

Answer to which Western inspired a Samaurai movie:

Dances With Wolves - The Last Samaurai!

You mean she was horny!

No, my dear Mr. Bravo, I don’t mean that. Do you remember that old movie plot about the clown who made millions laugh but never achieved happiness himself? Well, it has a striking real-life parallel in the career of Marilyn Monroe. Perhaps it would be an exaggeration to say that she never was happy – she lived her life to the fullest, considering only the present. But her real life always seemed almost a mockery of the carefree spright that she repeatedly played on the wide screen. :frowning:

Marilyn was a lovely girl, as beautiful as a Spring morning. And though she specialized in light comedy she had exceptional dramatic ability too. Many thought she could have been one of the screen’s finest dramatic actresses had she been given the guidance and chance. Even in her comedies, there were often moments of pathos or drama that showed there were good foundations for this belief. I do feel somehow that she regularly was mercilessly vivisected by the critics, and that didn’t serve to bolster her sagging spirits. In this film she had some great material, and that was the one and only entity of my mind in those previously mentioned sentences.

BTW: how about that half-forgotten “Paint your wagon”? Yes, I know – it’s a musical, but in the very same time it is the best example that even obligatory thought of a crooning Klint Eastwood as Dirty Harry is capable to perish quickly in a well elaborated script. But truly magnificent performance of an actor known mainly for his tough guy roles, Mr. Lee Marvin surely represents an everlasting value of this film. If nothing else, it is worth sitting through the movie waiting for his singing performance! What a melody!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnbiRDNaDeo&feature=related

Therefore, just relax, and imagine that you are observing that magnificent peak of Mt. Shasta, as seen from US 99 near Dunsmuir. I am assuring you, honorable ladies and gentlemen, that you will be completely tranquil, even after a crazy day at work… :slight_smile:

Of course she was, that was her problem.

I saw Tony Curtis speaking about her recently. He also stated that she had lost that flame in her eye which was her spirit, had to give away too much the casting-couch types - a candle in the wind!

Well, Tony surely knows that… Just look at that gaze in his eyes:

:smiley:

He used to date her before they became famous, so he knew her before and after, so-to-speak.

In the interview, he said he “exploded” twice when doing the couch scene in that film (Some Like It Hot).

Perhaps we should include TV series’? here’s one of my favourites:

http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/children/westerns/rintin1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.whirligig-tv.co.uk/tv/children/westerns/rintintin.htm&usg=__5fcHNKpVnPDyf5Ludo4H0seA3_M=&h=242&w=240&sz=10&hl=en&start=5&tbnid=aZTB0DJaSfLS7M:&tbnh=110&tbnw=109&prev=/images%3Fq%3Drin%2Btin%2Btin%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DG

He used to date her before they became famous, so he knew her before and after, so-to-speak.

Sure, my dear Mr. 32 Bravo – as we all do know from our courses in psychology, dating always represented the best form of a deep interpersonal understanding. After all, he has the very same glare in his eye, although this time he is looking on Daphne… You know, for some unknown reasons, I have a strong feeling that Joe DiMaggio actually represented the only male who actually cared for madam Monroe. After all – he was the only person that actually cried at her funeral and ordered half-dozen of red roses to be delivered 3 times a week to her crypt for 20 years. Quite a strange fellow for our modern standards… :frowning:

However, even without those couch scenes Mr. Jack Lemon was much more momentous actor in that film. Simply, in every detail Daphne was vigorously feminine and superbly adequate in her pleasantry. What a transformation that was! Perhaps only Dustin Hoffman in “Tootsie” was correspondent with his role next to this masterpiece of personal excellence in performing arts.

Daphne, Sugar Kane and Josephine

But enough with our unproductive personal contemplations… Western movies are representing our main theme in this thread, therefore – back to those old, forgotten times of Golden Epoch! Here is another forgotten part of the western film pack – “She Wore a Yellow Ribbon”! Yes, I know – this motion picture actually represents a cavalry epic. But the spirit of the Old West is still present in this masterpiece directed by Mr. John Ford.

John Wayne as captain Nathan Brittles

In addition, that beautiful marching song is available here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bVJOcJvjTY&feature=related

Enjoy! :wink:

Excellent thread–wish I’d found it earlier! I love almost every movie mentioned so far (that I’ve seen)! Here’s a couple of others I really enjoy:

The Cheyenne Social Club - great show with Jimmy Stewart and Henry Fonda.

Chato’s Land - Charles Bronson as a vengeful Indian. My dad made us watch this several months ago and I was surprised by how good a film it is. Very enjoyable!

Sorry Librarian, that’s not from “She Wore a Yellow Ribbon” I believe that’s from “The Horse Soldiers”.

Cast of SWAYR:

From The Horse Soldiers:

So, in effect, if I understand you correctly, her ambition led her away from the one person that cared about her for herself rather than her being just another trophy and into a life of misery and confusion. One might argue that, on account of her ambition, she became her own worse enemy?

Chato’s Land was a good one, although I think it was Charles Bronson who made it so. Didn’t Burt Lancaster make a similar film - Apache or something?

Sorry Librarian, that’s not from “She Wore a Yellow Ribbon” I believe that’s from “The Horse Soldiers”.

And you are right, my dear Mr Hawkeye! I was a little bit overwhelmed with that video-search at You Tube. Thank you for the correction and for that nice color picture of Mr. Wayne as well! :smiley:

In the meantime, here is another color snapshot about that previously mentioned Western-musical, “Paint Your Wagon”:

Paint Your Wagon - Klint Eastwood, Lee Marvin and Jean Seberg

So, in effect, if I understand you correctly, her ambition led her away from the one person that cared about her…

Oh, not only her ambition, my dear Mr. 32 Bravo. You see, the main problem actually was that typically modern cost-effective manifestation of love-as- attachment philosophy. If I remembered that correctly, Phillip Shawer, Cindy Hazan and Donna Bradshaw have created surprisingly successful theory of human intimacy in which they established a category of a so called secure lovers – lovers who don’t worry about being abandoned or about having someone get too close to them – and avoidant, or anxious/ambivalent lovers.

Avoidant lovers are always uncomfortable in being too close to someone else, and they always have trouble trusting someone completely, thus being insecure about their relationships. Now, if you add to these inherited psychological fundamentals that frequently discredited societal fact that love is very often only a substitute for someone’s personal identity (nonhuman primates are demonstrating this same behavior in their infancy!), as well as a constant need for assured economic security in a constantly timid world (read: pay envelope is first !), her truly sad destiny was almost inevitable… :frowning:

But enough with this vacant psychology! We have another candidate on our list: almost forgotten masterpiece of Mr. John Sturges“Bad Day at Black Rock”! Although being a thriller, this film definitely incorporates certain elements of the Western, especially the theme of individual integrity of a human being in socially adverse environment.

Spencer Tracy achieved a brilliant role in this film, knocking out even one of the most full-bodied actors of Holywood, otherwise exceptional artist Mr. Ernest Borgnine:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhUBH6gpXV8&feature=related

Enjoy! :wink:

being a bit of layperson I don’t do socialogy/psychology-speak, old chap, but I do have a fairly rounded grasp of the human experience - cause and effect etc. - and its complexities. Maralyn’s would have been as of nothing if not for her sexuality and her hunger for fame…Volenti non fit injuria!

Chato’s Land was a good one, although I think it was Charles Bronson who made it so. Didn’t Burt Lancaster make a similar film - Apache or something?

He did, but I haven’t seen that one.

I think Chato’s Land just had a really good, if simple, story to it. All the characters were well done and Bronson was great–even though he never spoke, or spoke very little, as I recall! :mrgreen:

I think I saw this film around 1972?..anyway, particularly remember the scene in which he throws a rattler at some chap - rather good! :slight_smile:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51C5SK1F5CL.SL500_AA280.jpg

Burt lancaster - Apache:

http://www.timeout.com/film/img/dvd/75258/cover.w200.jpg