Isn’t this a scene from “Schindlers List”?
I think the photo is real. Why would someone fake a photo like this. I looked at it only once for a second and I could tell it was real. If others think its not real then maybe they need glassess. I’m really surprised that this is even up for discussion. What ever that thing is hanging from the big gun, it looks very real.
I just put in my Schindlers List-DVD in and checked it out. It’s definitely from the movie. It’s the scene where the camp commander Amon Göth wants to shoot an elderly jewish worker but his pistol won’t work so the man is lucky and survives. Just the yellow star of David has been removed from the man’s vest.
I have not seen this film yet. but probably you right.
I’ve heard it was black-white film . Some of historians worry that this movie can be mistakaly used in future as a “documentary evidence” of Terror.
Well, it’s a very disturbing movie. Any holocaust denier should watch the movie and if he still says “this did not happen” afterwards than he can’t really behelped. Spielberg made the movie in B/w to create the authentic athmosphere of that time for we all know ww2 documentaries only in black/white. After all I firstly watched the movie in a cinema in my vacation in Poland back in 1993 when the movie was released there. I am german, but after the movie while leaving the cinema, belive me, I did not dare to speak a single word in german. I was a little bit afraid they would lynch me…
You sir obviously know nothing about so called Holocaust deniers…
I was interesting of this theme before, and i have to say - no one of them deny the mass terror of jews.
They simply deny the three things…
- The special death-camp ever existed with Giant furnances and Gass chamber.
- The special decision to execute all the jews existed
- the figure of 6 millions jews were killed.
I don’;t with to bring here thier arguments, since from certain time i don’t like this matter, besides someone can turn it as propogand of neo-nazism.
I/m not nazy and far from race theories.
but i seriously doubt that Spielberg might even prove or deny something, using the holliwood technologies.
Also hardly he ever can restore the Giant furnances in his movie.
Of cource he probably clearly showed the atmosphere of terror in camps - this is actually very disturbing.
Just dont misunderstand me- i/m not trying to justify nazic , but if you really seriously wan’t to beat the neo-nazis’s arguments you can’t use the “evidences” like the THIS Movie.
both photos are real. I found them here on nav source
[photos](http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/63c.htm) more than likey the machine gun came from the crash in the first photo. their both dated the same day. today photo fakers want something more in the shock and awe department.
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– the guy being shot is from Schindlers List. the officers gun jammed he got pissed and walked away.
That is a very interesting posting, like I could understand if the movie was about say the Russians murdering Polish soldiers at Katyn, that it might not be too good to be a Russian in Poland or if the movie had been about the Nazi destruction of Warsaw that it might not be too good to be a German in Poland but I am somewhat surprized that there would have been that much Polish solidarity with murdered Jews in that, Poland was and is a very catholic country and the Catholic Church was highly anti Jewish until relatively recently and since the State of Israel was allied to the United States and Russia supported the Arab cause, anti-semitism in the USSR and its satellites was defacto officially sanctioned.
As for the holocaust deniers, those people are hardly going to be persuaded by a film made in Hollywood using actors, when they can see and choose to ignore primary evidence from in the likes of actual photograph, etc, etc.
I know a lot of people saw that movie and were very moved by it, but I hated it in that in my opinion, it was Spielberg on a personal ego trip turning the Holocaust in to a soap opera and I regard it as posatively nasty in that I believe it is made with the intention of getting the Wartime American Jewish community and the Wartime wider American community free of any responsability as to what happened to Europe’s Jews during World War 2, since whilst what Schindler did was a great and noble thing, most Jews in Europe ended up in the gas chambers not on Schindler’s list.
I also saw War of the World’s, if you see the scene where the crazy person invites Tom Cruise in to the basement look at the way he holds the gun, there is a poster for the film Exodus in which the gun is held in the same way, coincidence or what? Really I think War of the World was a leftist Hollywood attack on America’s working class and anybody who might think that people crashing planes in to the World Trade center was a major attack, notice how the upper middle class wife and her new hubby stay nice and safe in their in-laws fancy town house in Boston, obviously the white upper middle class are too virtuous to be attacked by the Aliens and the only people who really suffer are the working class ie the Cruise charactor, the nutter in the basement and the military well for being military and having tanks and guns and stuff.
As for the machine gun lodged in the 40mm, I think on balance it is real. The flash hider would not be that strong, so the machine gun would not need much of a velocity to penetrate it and the damage done to the machine gun could have occured when it was ejected from the aircraft as e.g. when the plane might have exploded. Also that might have been the only thing which hit the ship in that area from an exploding aircraft, so there is no need for a damaged area to exist beside where the machine gun is. As for the photo of the man kneeling on the ground, I think it is a publicity still from a movie.
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Adrian Wainer
yes it is. the prisoner survied because the gun jammed.
wife and I were speechless after watching. I think the most powerful movie ever made about the holocaust. Won 7 Oscars. Another 63 wins & 21 nominations. its a true story. Oskar Schindler is buried in Israel. I now have the DVD. and on special features they interview survivors who confirm the event.
For what it’s worth, I preferred the book the film is based on (Schindler’s Ark by Thomas Keneally). The film is just a little too glossy for my taste… It’s an excellent film, but the book just somehow works better.
Well, I’m totally confused. The photo of the man kneeling is for sure from Schindler’s List, I remember the scene well, the guy was demonstrating how to make door hinges and Goth got pissed off and took him out back to shoot him, but his gun jammed and the poor guy survived. The problem I’m having is that in the picture posted here the German officer is clearly holding a revolver and in the movie I seem to remember him using a Walther automatic. Also, while automatics can jam quite easily, revolvers do not. The gun jamming was the point of the whole scene, so what’s with the revolver?? Maybe this scene was some sort of out-take or something?
See this link http://ahoy.tk-jk.net/Letters/Kamakazepilotwhocrashedin.html
Both Pictures are origional and correct ! The japaneese Pilots name was Setsuo Ishino On
April 11th 1945 He was successful in running his plane into the USS Missouri. His body was recovered on the deck of the Missouri. Capt William Callahan of the Missouri ordered that he was to be given burial rights aboard the Missouri. And He Was Burried at sea.
The Machine Gun Picture is also correct one of the planes machine guns wedged itself
between one of the ships Quad 40mm turrets gun barrels.
Cavaly Gunner
see this link http://ahoy.tk-jk.net/Letters/Kamakazepilotwhocrashedin.html
Both Pictures are original Heres the story :
On April 11th 1945 A Japaneese pilot Named Setsuo Ishino Crashed his plane
into the USS Missouri. His body was recovered from the deck of the Missouri
and Capt William Callahan gave him funeral services with full honors aboard the USS Missouri. The Machine Gun From Ishino’s Plane wedged itself between
two barrels of one of the USS Missouris 40mm machine gun turrets.
No Fakes
Cavalry Gunner
it’s real i’ve seen it in many books aboutww2.
Both pics are 100% right.