Italian tanks and AFVs.

You can add to the list that the lack of welded armor, only riveted one.

They have some nice non armored vehicles but the desing of the tanks…:rolleyes:

My Lahti would love to chew on one,well, not the whole vehicle, but some of the armor plate would make for an interesting experiment.

Do you have a 20 mm rifle TG ? :shock:

Semovente 75/18

Hello my friend, yes, I do own an L-39 lahti AT rifle, I knew some fellows who oned one, and a Solothurn, and a Boys .55 rifle. they had mentioned seeing a lahti in an antique store, so I when exploring, and found it, sitting on the floor, under alot of dust. Luckily it was one of the few active rifles, and it being 1977, I got it for a right price, and did the transfer papers, and its been mine since, I have fired it a couple times, and it does quite a job on mild steel. Makes a fierce BOOM, and pushes you back about 100 mm.
It would be fun to test it on some genuine armor plate to see what it will actually do.( he man in the photo is not me,but its the same version of the rifle.

lahti.jpg

Beatiful weapon, the italians used the swiss Solothurn 20mm in some of his vehicles.

They made an excellent choice in the Solothurn, the one my friend owned was a real gem of engineering, a work of art as much as a weapon. It had very little recoil, and the interchangable barrel assemblies made “hi volume” business possible.I really liked the optical sights, the lahti uses iron sights just like the 98 mauser rifle, only at the left side. the sights are indicated to 1600 meters, but it would take some good vision to see the target at that range.

Other use for the Solo 18-1000, mounted over the long range recce vehicle AS 42.

Thats quite a vehicle, looks well built, and would come in handy in rush hour traffic… :slight_smile: A 20m.m., and a machine gun makes for a very effective recon force. I think the 20 m.m as a recon weapon lasted into the 80’s, when the bushmaster, and other higher velocity, modern guns, were adopted. That is quite a fine tribute for a caliber to prove so versatile, for so many years.I have to get on the stick and post the other 20’s, I have info and pics for.

:smiley:

With 20mm Breda and 13,2mm MG.

Are they fuel or water cans all along the sides?

I would hope they were water!!!

Diesel in the sides, water at front.

There were 20mm and then there were 20mm…pics from the Ammunition Photo Gallery on my website:


20x70RB (Becker), 20x72RB (Oerlikon FF - aka IJN Type 99-1), 20x80RB (German MG-FF/M), 20x82 (Mauser MG 151/20), 20x94 (IJA Ho-5), 20x99R (ShVAK), 20x101RB (Oerlikon FFL- aka IJN Type 99-2), 20x105B (Solothurn S18-350), 20x105 (German MG 204), 20x110RB (Oerlikon FFS and HS.7, H.S.9 variants), 20x110 (HS.404 - Hispano)


20x110 (HS.404), 20x113 (Lahti L34), 20x120 (Madsen), 20x125 (IJA Type 97; and Ho-1, Ho-3), 20x138B (‘Long Solothurn’ used in FlaK/KwK 30 and 38), 20x139 (Swiss FMK: drill), 20x142 (IJA Type 98), 20x144R (Bofors m/32)

and then, after WW2:


20x110 (HS.404: Swiss API), 20x102 (US M39 and M61 Vulcan, GIAT 20M621), 20x110 USN (Mark 11 and 12 aircraft guns), 20x128 (Oerlikon KAA, also used in Meroka CIWS), 20x139 (HS 820 - now called Oerlikon KAD - M139 in US service - and also used in Rh 202, GIAT 20M693 / Vektor GI-2), 20x82 (Vektor GA-1: the MG 151/20, still in production!)

The only people who still use the 20x110 USN must be the Argentine Air force in their super Skyhawks :rolleyes:

That could well be, now that the French have retired their Crusaders. I’m not sure if anyone else still uses Skyhawks.

As well as being used in the Mk 12 (Hispano), the ammo was also used in the MK 11 gun which was only ever fitted into a gunpod - that might still be in use somewhere.

I thinks is the last of the line, New zealand and Singapore withdraw their A-4s some time ago.

Carro Armato P.75, P.40, P.26/40

In 1940 the need for a “heavy” tank was perceived by the Italians and plans were drawn up into what became the P.40 (originally designated as the P.75). The prototype was tested in early 1942 and mounted a 75/18 gun/howitzer and was powered by a 330hp diesel engine.

P-40/18 mock-up

Armament on the first prototype was changed to the longer 75/32 gun. This was the gun selected for use on all production models. The diesel engine proved to be wanting and consideration was given to the V12 engine from captured Soviet T-34 tanks!

P-40/18 (75mm L-18 gun) prototipe.

Productions models of the tank were equipped with a 420hp gasoline engine. No P.40, completed prior to the Italo-Allied armistice, saw service with Italian armored units.

All units produced were captured and added to German stock. Some hulls, without engines, were dug in and used as static forts. Some sources state that 21 while others state 24 units were produced under Italian administration.

Definitive model P-26/40.

mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/
http://digilander.libero.it/avantisavoiait/Reparti%20mezzi%20corazzati.htm

As many as 80 were produced by the Italians under German direction.

I don´t think so we in Holland now the tank it was a far shooter:wink:

Brazil still fly Skyhawks off their carrier. Also, Indonesia are allegedly thinking about bringing theirs back into service now they can get spares again.

True, I forgot about the brazilian A-4Fs.

I don´t think so we in Holland now the tank it was a far shooter

“far shooter”, far shooter is wich sence ?

Fiat 665NM Scudatto.

This armored personel carrier was largely based in the Fiat comercial truck 665 model 1942. It consisted in the same chassis with the addition of 8-9mm steel plate all over.

The fiat scudatto ( scudatto = shielded) had a capacity for 29 soldiers more 2 in the crew, the sides and back of the vehicle were equipped with 19 ports from wich the soldiers could be use his rifles without exposing to enemy fire.

The armor protect only against fire from 7,7 mm rifles/mg and artillery splinters.

Powerplant was a V8 diesel engine with 115 hp, it gave the 9 tons vehicle a top speed of 72 km/h.

The Fiat scudatto was considered too heavy for the afrikan desert so it was only deployed in the Balcans and Yugoeslavia mostly for antipartisan and security duties. Just 100 Scudattos were made between 1942-43.

I wonder if the SAS used any captured models? This seems like their “bag.”