Next US President!

Ha! If I had his money, I sure as hell wouldn’t run for office. I’d be chilling on Martha’s Vineyard with margaritas and a stable of bikini-clad women…:slight_smile: :wink:

I’m not happy with either party either. But by believing what all evidence seems to contradicts, you’re just enabling their recent bad behavior and failures like the “Contract with America.”


Neither am I. But by just handing one of them your vote based on stereotypes that all real evidence seems to contradict, you’re just enabling them and their overall shameful recent behavior…

Now That’s something we can agree on…bring on the lady’s and drinks :slight_smile: I never understood why anyone with enough money to live a rice lifestyle would want to run for office. I guess its about the power

The Cape and the Vineyard are pretty great in summer…

I never understood why anyone with enough money to live a rice lifestyle would want to run for office. I guess its about the power

Well, you have to understand that their father Joe was a bit of a prick. Even though they were wealthy, it was a very uncomfortable sort of rich where each kid was scrutinized in a hypercompetitive upbringing. Not too mention that much tragedy struck the family even before they started getting shot.

I think the short of it was that when you already have more money than God, what existential purpose is there left to life but to achieve power? Speaking for JFK, he pretty much could have any women he wanted by the time he was 25, when he wanted. But this has to be balanced against the fact that he suffered a traumatic childhood of constant illness and hospital stays ultimately tied to Addison’s Disease and the crudely prescribed overuse of steroids to relieve his severe digestive ailments. But he seemed to be disinterested in anything not young and pretty or regarding current events or foreign affairs…

Pity, but it seems Ted’s term will be ending --permanently…

In my most humble opinion, to demonstrate that their liberalism and racial tolerance is not just talk, and that they truly have turned their back on past misdeeds, in my opinion, both the Democratic party (and the U.S. in the subsequent elections) needs to elect Barak Obama. Democrat party campaign has become besmirched by hypocracy, it is a sign of the underlying racism in modern America, and the problems that this will continue to cause for the American people and the credibility of the US in the world political arena.

WOW!! I couldn’t disagree more with what you said. I sure hope most Americans aren’t that stupid, to vote for someone just because the color of their skin. I like to judge men by their actions and deeds …not the color of their skin.

The Hon. James David Manning, PhD warns us NOT to vote for obamma yomamma

James David Manning is an African American energetic and visionary pastor of the ATLAH World Missionary Church located in ATLAH, New York. He has founded three schools and developed a national church ministry. He holds a PhD in philosophy, the author of The Oblation Hour book, a former Marketing Executive with Proctor and Gamble and the Ford Motor Company.

This video is just over 6 minutes and should be a real eye opener for all Americans.

Warning!!! http://www.youtube.com/user/ATLAHWorldwide

edited to add: I would vote for Larry elder in a heart beat and he’s black. http://www.larryelder.com/larrysbooks.html

Naturally!

I sure hope most Americans aren’t that stupid, to vote for someone just because the color of their skin. I like to judge men by their actions and deeds …not the color of their skin.

So do I!

The Hon. James David Manning, PhD warns us NOT to vote for obamma yomamma

James David Manning is an African American energetic and visionary pastor of the ATLAH World Missionary Church located in ATLAH, New York. He has founded three schools and developed a national church ministry. He holds a PhD in philosophy, the author of The Oblation Hour book, a former Marketing Executive with Proctor and Gamble and the Ford Motor Company.

This video is just over 6 minutes and should be a real eye opener for all Americans.

Warning!!! http://www.youtube.com/user/ATLAHWorldwide

One black man with a bogeyman message to the white folks, and he must be listened to. He must be right!..he’s one of them!..he’s black!..and he has a Phd!.. Yes’m!

It does reinforce my argument, above, somewhat.

edited to add: I would vote for Larry elder in a heart beat and he’s black.

Amazing!.. What are his fiscal and foreign policies?

Easy to say you’d vote for him, but the proof of thee udding, as they say.
Luckily for you he isn’t standing for election - yet! :smiley:

THE TEN THINGS YOU CAN’T SAY IN AMERICA

Let’s say them here:

Elder says and proves what no one else will:

  1. Blacks are more racist than whites
  2. White condescension is as real as black racism
  3. The media bias: it’s real, it’s widespread, it’s destructive
  4. The glass ceiling: full of holes
  5. America’s greatest problem: illegitimacy
  6. The big lie: our healthcare crisis
  7. The welfare state: helping us to death
  8. Republicans vs. Democrats: maybe a dime’s worth of difference
  9. Vietnam II: the war on drugs, and we’re losing that one too
  10. Gun control advocates: good guys with blood on their hands

No wonder he doesn’t want Obama to win - he wants to be the first black president himself. :slight_smile:

Here are some more positive images of African-Americans. Some interesting archives.

Just a few randomly selected pages:

http://www.diversityinbusiness.com/index.htm

http://www.diversityinbusiness.com/dib2002/dib20202/ExecInsight_RMoore.htm

http://www.diversityinbusiness.com/Archived_Indexes/ix_TheAfricanAmExp.htm

It’s not much of an eye opener for me.

It just confirms that people who throw around their supposed impressive academic qualifications to bolster their crazy assertions rather than presenting a reasoned argument should be viewed with scepticism. (or skepticism for you Yanks. :D).

Manning implies that he has a Ph. D from Union Theological Seminary with his references to his graduate studies there, but he doesn’t. He awarded it to himself from his own seminary, but you won’t find that prominently displayed on his website, but it’s there.

He graduated from The College of New Rochelle with a BA degree, continued on to Union Theological Seminary in N.Y.C. where he was awarded a Master of Divinity Degree and finally received a Doctor of Philosophy degree from The Atlah Theological Seminary.
http://atlah.org/about/pastormanning.html

I expect he managed to fit that in between talking to a couple of angels in a park and so on. http://atlah.org/about/kingtotallygoodjoseph.html

Manning refers to himself as an alumnus of the Oxford Round Table. The imputation is that he got some academic qualification there, but he doesn’t mention what it was. Hardly surprising, as the Oxford Round Table is not an educational institution. It does not have graduates who could call themselves alumni. Nor is it part of Oxford University.

The Round Table is not a degree granting institution and does not have a formal academical connection with the University of Oxford.
http://www.oxfordroundtable.com/index.php/view/Content-Main/page/disclaimer.html

Similarly he refers to being at St Anthony’s College at Oxford, but he doesn’t say anything about getting a qualification there. I wouldn’t be surprised if he just stayed there as a paying guest while he was qualifying as an ‘alumnus’ of the Oxford Round Table which doesn’t have alumni.

That bloke has bullshit and fraud written all over him. He’s just a black version of crooks like Jim Bakker and in the fullness of time will probably be found to be so, to the dismay of those who believed his bullshit and to the cost of those whose pockets he got his hands into.

McCain talks issues as troubles pile up

Carla Marinucci,John Wildermuth, Chronicle Political Writers

Friday, May 23, 2008
On a Bay Area campaign stop, Sen. John McCain, the presum… With California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger by his side, S… McCain supporter, Trey Peckenpaugh waits for Sen. John Mc… Sen. John McCain (right) is joined by Gov. Arnold Schwarz… More…

(05-22) 16:03 PDT Union City - – Facing a pile of controversial campaign troubles - including incendiary comments by televangelist John Hagee that forced him to reject Hagee’s endorsement - Sen. John McCain tried mightily to shift the focus to economic issues and his Democratic opponent Barack Obama on Thursday during a California campaign swing.

McCain, speaking at a Silicon Valley forum on economic issues alongside Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, issued a renewed call for “comprehensive immigration reform” as a top agenda item for the next president. He called for a “temporary agricultural program,” saying, “We need a way for an ordinary person to apply for citizenship in this country in a way that they can count on and trust.”

Later, at an evening rally in Stockton, the Arizona senator and presumptive Republican presidential nominee launched into a slashing attack on Obama. He said the Illinois senator “doesn’t have the knowledge, background or judgment to lead this country in these dangerous times,” adding sarcastically that “for a young man with very little experience, (Obama) has done well.”

But at the start of his Northern California fundraising and campaign trip, the dominant news of the day was not on McCain’s official agenda: The controversial Hagee had, in the 1990s, said Adolf Hitler had acted as an agent of God to cause the Holocaust to send more Jews to the Holy Land.

Minutes after the Union City event, McCain issued a statement rejecting the influential Texas pastor’s endorsement - one he had eagerly sought in order to win the support of churchgoing conservative voters.

“Obviously, I find these remarks and others deeply offensive and indefensible, and I repudiate them. I did not know of them before Rev. Hagee’s endorsement, and I feel I must reject his endorsement as well,” McCain said in a statement. Hagee withdrew his endorsement as well.

Even before that matter came up, the campaign appeared distracted as it approached the town-hall gathering on global economy and innovation issues.

At the event, organized by former eBay Chief Executive Officer Meg Whitman and Cisco Systems CEO John Chambers at Finelite, a Union City lighting manufacturing plant, McCain was noticeably short on detail regarding his own innovation and economic agenda. He stuck to mostly broad statements on global warming and the need to reduce dependence on foreign oil.

His appearance in the valley this week stood in stark contrast to visits by the two Democratic presidential candidates, Obama and New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, who have come to the technology capital in the past year to unveil detailed innovation and technology agendas.
Multiple challenges

McCain’s visit underscored how the senator’s presidential campaign has been challenged on multiple fronts by potentially damaging news.

Those stories included the planned and limited release of his health records to a handful of media outlets today - raising questions about his medical history - along with a new focus on his ties to lobbyists. Reports this week outlined campaign insider Charlie Black’s past lucrative lobbying for brutal Angolan guerrilla leader Jonas Savimbi and Philippines strongman Ferdinand Marcos.

McCain later avoided reporters’ shouted questions during a meet-and-greet with invited audience members at the Union City plant.

Reporters were barred from a fundraiser at Whitman’s Atherton home, where the candidate raised an estimated $2.5 million. In the past, Whitman has opened her home to reporters for fundraisers and events.

McCain, asked about getting more visas for high-tech workers, acknowledged his own controversial efforts at immigration reform with the help of Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Edward Kennedy, saying that “because of our failure, we’re now seeing these conflicts and problems across the nation.”

He said the nation must secure its borders and prosecute employers of illegal immigrants - but he warned that Americans must recognize that immigrant workers “are also God’s children, and we have to do it in a humane and compassionate fashion.”

McCain said the country’s great challenge is to become independent of foreign oil, adding, “The innovation and the technology is right here in this room.”

He argued that raising capital gains taxes “would be a horrific mistake. … You’re giving money to the government that it should be people’s to spend.”

He said renegotiating the North American Free Trade Agreement - an idea floated by both Clinton and Obama - “would be the most harmful thing that we could do to America’s future.”

With regard to climate change, he said, “I am proud that the state of California is leading, in many respects,” and added that efforts to reduce greenhouse gases will affect “our economic stability and our national security.”

McCain’s California trip included fundraisers with donors who have been encouraged to write checks - as much as $43,000 each - to Republican Party causes, mostly to counter the record fundraising by Obama, who looks increasingly likely to be the Democratic nominee.

After the fundraiser for 250 guests at Whitman’s home, McCain flew by private plane to a rally before several hundred people and another major campaign fundraiser in Stockton hosted by Alex Spanos, owner of the San Diego Chargers.

In Stockton, McCain delivered a fiery speech to about 800 supporters in a hangar at the local airport. Demonstrators from the Code Pink anti-war group briefly interrupted the gathering with shouts of “bring our troops home” before they were dragged out.

The senator appeared unfazed, saying, “don’t worry, it happens all the time,” and saluted the many veterans in the crowd, then launched into a tough attack on Obama.
Islamic extremism

Arguing that radical Islamic extremism is the challenge the country will face in the next four years, McCain questioned Obama’s ability to lead the nation and slammed his call for a date for withdrawal of U.S. forces from Iraq as “a date for surrender.”

“I will never surrender in Iraq,” McCain said. “I’ll bring the troops home, but I’ll bring them home with honor and victory.”

McCain attempted to turn his own campaign problems into attacks on Obama. When asked why he had waited so long to disavow Hagee - who has a long record of controversial remarks - he reminded reporters that he attends a Baptist church in Phoenix and had never been to Hagee’s church. And he added that he was “never a member of that church for 20 years,” a none-too-veiled shot at Obama’s relationship with his own controversial former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, in Chicago.

Despite the state’s growing Democratic strength, McCain repeated his vow to campaign and win in California, saying, “I understand the local issues.”

But he also was frank about his opposition to the farm bill recently passed by Congress - and viewed as a boon to agricultural interests in California’s Central Valley. He described the bill as overflowing with political pork and said that as president, he would veto it and any other bills he believes include unnecessary spending.

“One thing I’ve always done is tell people things they don’t want to hear,” he said. “I strongly support American farmers … but I’ll do what I believe is best for the country.”

While there were few Obama supporters in the Stockton crowd, a number of people still wanted to hear from McCain before making a final decision on the presidential race.

“I want to see him in person, see if he had the real grit that’s going to be needed,” said Frankie Gillespie, a Stockton office manager. “We need someone who can fix the economy and take care of immigration.”

Don Marshall of Piedmont volunteered for McCain in New Hampshire, North Carolina and Florida. With two children in the military, he said, McCain’s war hero background connects with him.

“He’s the one guy qualified to complete the Iraq war the way it should be done,” he said.

E-mail the writers at cmarinucci@sfchronicle.com and jwildermuth@sfchronicle.com.

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From March of this year:

Hagee, in ‘NYT’ This Sunday, Says McCain Sought His Endorsement

By Greg Mitchell

Published: March 20, 2008 5:35 PM ET

NEW YORK In an interview that will appear in this Sunday’s New York Times Magazine, controversial televangelist Rev. John Hagee declares, “It’s true that [John] McCain’s campaign sought my endorsement.”

McCain has attempted to distance himself from some of Hagee’s views, much as Barack Obama is doing in relation to Rev. Jeremiah Wright. But unlike McCain, Obama has not stood on stage with Wright and accepted his accolades this year.

Interviewed by Deborah Solomon, Hagee refused to discuss his statement that Hurricane Katrina was God’s punishment for a gay rights parade in New Orleans, calling it “so far off-base.” He claims, “Our church is not hard against the gay people. Our church teaches what the bible teaches, that it is not a righteous lifestyle. But of course we must love even sinners.”

He also said that charges that he had bashed the Catholic Church (“false cult system,” etc.) have been “grossly mischaracterized…I was referring to those Christians who ignore the Gospels.”

Asked what he thinks of Obama, he answers, “He is going to be difficult to beat, because the man is a master of communication. If he were in the ministry, he would make it in the major leagues overnight.”

He also denies that he is a strong supporter of Israel because of any coming “Rapture” in the holy land.

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Mc Cain’s latest travails just demonstrate the problems candidates (in all democratic nations) face in rushing around trying to buy votes by sucking up to various groups rather than actually having a clear platform on a ‘take it or leave it’ basis.

If he’d stood for what he believed in (I know that’s a big ask for a politician, both standing for something and believing in something) instead of seeking out Hagee, he wouldn’t have the problems of being seen as craven in chasing those votes and enduring whatever damage flows from losing Hagee and his supporters.

Modern politicians remind me of the fable about a man rolling a cheese to market. Everybody gave him conflicting advice and he followed everyone’s advice. When he got to market, the cheese was gone or ruined.

Golly…Why would you not want Hilary Clinton as the very first woman President, just to see how much better women can run things?
Women politicians are well known for making major progress in actual achievement whilst in office, so why not forget Bill’s Oval Office indiscretions and simply put the ex-first lady in office?

Who knows? She just might do a better job. She certainly won’t be much of a target for “skin scandels”, and a woman’s touch in the Oval Office may well be the best thing that ever happened to the great country of the U.S.!

Modern politicians remind ME of Patton’s “Rock Soup” theory…

A French soldier during the revolutionary war had nothing in his forage bag. Not wanting to look like a beggar, he decides to put two large rocks in his bag. When he knocks on the first door, asking for contributions, he tells the “madames” that he is making soup with potatoes (holding his bag up high), and could she possibly spare some leeks?/carrots?/shallots?..MEAT?..until he eventually has enough to make “Rock Soup”

I would like to say that I wish people of the Great country of the U.S. would cease referring to themselves as “Afro”, “Hispanic” or Jewish, and refer to themselves henceforth as AMERICANS. You people live in one of the best nations on Earth, and for the past 100 years, you have shown us that your brand of civilization can achieve wonderous things, part of a society that Father Abe would be proud of…

Don’t muck it up now…put the UNITED back into “The States”…

As Bill Cosby once said…

“I must say, I am PROUD to be an American…an American can eat anything on the face of this earth…
…as long as it’s between two pieces of bread.”

We in Britain, supposedly, had a woman’s touch when Maggie was in office. It was quite often said that she was the only man in her government.

It’s a mans world and for a woman to make it, she must have a heck of a driving force. Perhaps too much driving force to enable her to listen to good advice, particularly when it comes from a man. Maggie was the ‘Lady who was not for turning’ . An inflexible attitude which finished her in the end.

I see shades of the same within Hilary, particularly as she wont admit when she’s beaten and continues to damage her parties cause by making the Republican nominee seem more appealing of the three.

I wish she’d bother to focus more on running the State she was elected Senator of than delaying the inevitable in her failing presidential campaign…

First, Hilary is … not … doing damage to the Party.
That is an urban legend started by people who want to control the party and Hilary. They want Obama, so attempted to get Hilary to stop running from almost the beginning, they were saying it was going to damage the party.

Believe less than 15% of what you see and hear on American TV, and you have it more accurate. TV is not in the business to “tell the truth” it is in business to make a profit. They do and say whatever will cause a controversy or interest and build the audience, so they can charge more for commercials. The rest is Hype.

Even Obama has positive things about Hilary. The more Hilary runs, the more attention Obama gets in his campaign. The less time spent promoting McCain.

The Polls indicate that McCain would have a harder time defeating Hilary, than Obama. The PEOPLE have spoken, more of them have voted for Hilary, than for Obama. Only because Obama won some smaller states, without as large a population, did he get more numbers.

For decades, since the beginning of this country, the Nominee has never been chosen before the convention. It is only recently that POLS have been changing the rules, and manipulating people, to have the Nominee named before the convention… Just because many are bored by the conventions on TV, is no reason to change the process. Many are not bored, and even enjoy watching the conventions ever since available on TV.

Like when the papers announced Dewey was the winner, the Polls and predictions of the talking heads have been proven wrong over and over during this years predictions.

As long as it is possible Hilary might win, Hilary should run.
It is more possible she can, than lying talking heads let you believe.

Many voted for Obama, who now wish they had NOT.
We did not know him as well then, as we know who he is now.
I’d bet if he wins the nomination, it means McCain will win the election.

She’s doing damage to my state and her career. As to Obama, she’s pretty much dropped the attack lines and he’s already shifted to McCain, so that’s a non-factor…

NYT: McCain’s path from Navy to D.C.
Son of an admiral turned down his own post for a shot at life in Washington
THE LONG RUN

By David D. Kirkpatrick
The New York Times
updated 12:12 a.m. ET, Fri., May. 30, 2008

John McCain stands in front of a Navy jet in 1965. McCain spent five years in a POW camp in North Vietnam before returning stateside, where he hobnobbed with Washington powerbrokers as a liaison between the Navy and Senate. It was a defining period in his life.
WASHINGTON - At a meeting in his Pentagon office in early 1981, Secretary of the Navy John F. Lehman told Capt. John S. McCain III that he was about to attain his life ambition: selection for admiral.

But Mr. McCain, the son and grandson of revered Navy admirals, was having second thoughts about following his family’s vocation. He had spent the previous four years as the Navy’s liaison to the Senate, sampling life in the world’s most exclusive club as he escorted its members on trips around the globe — sitting with the sultan of Oman on the floor of his desert tent, or smuggling a senator’s private supply of Scotch through Saudi Arabian customs.

He had found a sense of purpose in an apprenticeship to some of the Senate’s fiercest cold warriors. And in Senator John G. Tower, a hawkish Texas Republican, he had found a new mentor, beginning a relationship that many compared to the bond between a father and son.

With Mr. Tower’s encouragement, Mr. McCain declined the prospect of his first admiral’s star to make a run for Congress, saying that he could “do more good there,” Mr. Lehman recalled. But Mr. Lehman knew duty was only part of the reason.

“He just loved it up there,” Mr. Lehman recalled. “Like very few military people, John heard the music up there, and he really wanted to do it.”

From prisoner of war to politician in a hurry, it was the turning point that started Mr. McCain on the trajectory toward the Republican presidential nomination this year.

After five and a half years of listening to senators’ antiwar speeches over prison camp loudspeakers, Mr. McCain came home in 1973 contemptuous of America’s elected officials, convinced Congress had betrayed the country’s fighting men by hamstringing the war effort. But in the halls of the Senate, he discovered a new calling, at once high-minded and glamorous.

The epitome of cool
One of several Senate military liaisons assigned as advocates for their services and escorts for official travel, Mr. McCain quickly emerged as the senators’ favorite. He had a thick head of hair as white as his dress uniform, and he showed a natural politician’s gift for winning over an audience. He excelled at leavening official business with a spirit of fun — telling deadpan stories about his years “in the cooler,” playing marathon poker games on flights overseas or surprising senators at a refueling stop in Ireland with a side trip to Durty Nelly’s, a 17th century pub.

He was the epitome of cool, one senator’s son recalled, with a pack of Marlboros in one hand and Theodore H. White’s memoir “In Search of History” in the other.

Mr. McCain relished the push-and-pull of legislative battles, eventually even plunging into defense budget fights with a personal agenda that was sometimes at odds with President Jimmy Carter’s secretary of the Navy. He built personal friendships and professional collaborations across ideological divides, a hallmark of his later Senate career. And he applauded the Senate’s leading hawks as they waged what they considered an epic struggle with the Carter administration over America’s place in the post-Vietnam world.

Under Mr. Tower’s tutelage, Mr. McCain turned his anger over the management of the Vietnam War into an all-or-nothing view of international conflict that became one of the few guiding principles in his otherwise unpredictable political career — from his opposition to sending Marine peacekeepers into Lebanon in 1983 to his current staunch support for the Iraq war. And when prominent conservative Christians later protested Mr. Tower’s nomination as defense secretary over accusations of drinking and womanizing, Mr. McCain’s furious counterattack opened the hostilities with that wing of his party that have persisted ever since.

‘Smitten with the celebrity of power’
Mr. McCain has often said he decided to run for office because he felt his war injuries would make attaining the same rank as his father and grandfather “impossible.” But Mr. Lehman, now an adviser to the McCain campaign, and two other top Navy officers familiar with Mr. McCain’s file insist that was not the case.

Instead, many who knew him say, Mr. McCain seemed bored by Navy life. “Sitting down with Anwar Sadat or Deng Xiaoping and being treated as an equal — that is pretty heady stuff,” said Rhett Dawson, a former aide to Mr. Tower who is now president of an electronics trade group. “It had opened his eyes to a much broader world.”

Mr. McCain was captivated, recalled Jeffrey Record, then an aide to former Senator Sam Nunn, the hawkish Georgia Democrat. “He thrives on competition, and he thrives on political combat,” Mr. Record said. “He saw the glamour of it. I think he really got smitten with the celebrity of power.”

First stop in Senate
It is unclear how long Mr. McCain has dreamed of the White House. Languishing in a North Vietnamese prison camp in 1970, he once mused aloud about the presidency, a cellmate, Richard A. Stratton, told a reporter eight years ago.

But when he returned from Vietnam in March 1973, Mr. McCain was so determined to continue as a Navy pilot that in defiance of his doctors he underwent a year of excruciating physical therapy to force an injured knee back to the required range of motion.

A steady trickle of other former P.O.W.’s were running for office, and Mr. McCain’s well-publicized valor as a captive had made him a minor celebrity. But he rebuffed invitations to enter politics, focusing instead on his assignment commanding a fighter squadron near Jacksonville, Fla. He blamed Congress for “willfully breaking America’s word,” he later wrote, which he considered “shameful.”

But Adm. James L. Holloway, the chief of naval operations, saw other uses for Mr. McCain. Mr. Holloway knew that Mr. McCain’s father had once excelled as a Senate liaison. And though the son had earned a reputation as a playboy at the Naval academy, Mr. Holloway thought then-Commander McCain might have inherited the skills and judgment needed to deal with senators.

“He could smoke a cigar and play a little poker,” Mr. Holloway recalled in an interview. “But he didn’t let the situation get out of hand. He could tag along and take care of them and pay the bills and remember where they parked the car. And he was very circumspect. He didn’t get them in trouble.”

Rough waters
Mr. McCain, for his part, was turning 40 and unsure of his path. A shoulder injury still limited his reach, complicating his prospects as a pilot. His marriage to Carol McCain, a former model who was nearly crippled in a car accident while he was imprisoned, was coming apart. He was engaged in a series of extramarital “dalliances,” he later told his biographer, Robert Timberg.

Mr. McCain, in a recent e-mail message, said he was excited about the liaison job. After his release from prison, he wrote, “almost every duty seemed enjoyable.” But some former Senate aides who knew him then say that, at first, he seemed discouraged, stuck at one of several desks in a spartan office. “He looked down and depressed,” recalled William Bader, a former aide to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee.

But Mr. McCain, promoted to captain, threw himself into courting the lawmakers who shaped Navy policy. He formed especially close friendships with two relative liberals about his age: Senator William S. Cohen, a Maine Republican who represented a major shipbuilding state and later became defense secretary, and Senator Gary Hart, a Colorado Democrat who had managed the antiwar presidential campaign of Senator George McGovern of South Dakota in 1972.

A trip to Asia in late 1978 cemented their bond. Mr. McCain and the two senators stole away from official briefings to stroll in the Ginza district of nightclubs and restaurants in Tokyo, visit the Temple of the Reclining Buddha in Bangkok and take a memorable midnight tour of what Mr. Hart remembered as that city’s “light and dark sides.” In a memoir, Mr. Cohen recalled drinking beer with Mr. McCain at the Hyatt Regency bar overlooking Seoul, watching beautiful Korean women seduce a tipsy traveler.

“He was a salesman par excellence,” Mr. Cohen recalled in an interview, crediting Mr. McCain with redirecting his career by persuading him to join the Armed Services Committee.

The three became regulars together at the Monocle, a watering hole near the Senate. “We would laugh and tell stories about our colleagues,” Mr. Hart recalled. “ ‘So-and-so said something in a caucus meeting.’ He found it fascinating.”

A model for POW-politicians
In turn, Mr. McCain helped Mr. Hart become an officer in the Navy Reserves. For Mr. Cohen, Mr. McCain became a model for the P.O.W.-politician heroes of two novels the Maine senator later wrote. After Mr. McCain met Cindy Lou Hensley at a Honolulu bar on another trip in 1979, Mr. Cohen and Mr. Hart were groomsmen at the couple’s wedding the following year.

Mr. McCain later said that he was inspired to seek public office in part by the example of Senator Henry M. Jackson, Democrat of Washington, the staunch cold warrior who led the defection to the right of the foreign policy thinkers now known as neoconservatives.

Cont’d

“Thank God for Scoop Jackson,” Mr. McCain wrote in his 2002 memoir, “Worth the Fighting For.” “Without his courage, I doubt we would have recovered from Vietnam as quickly as we did, which would have left those who sacrificed there all the more haunted by the futility of the experience.”

The strait-laced “soda-pop Jackson” sometimes brought his school-age children along on official trips, and Mr. McCain played baby sitter. But Mr. Jackson never went in for the kind of camaraderie Mr. McCain enjoyed with Mr. Hart and Mr. Cohen.

In Mr. Tower, however, Mr. McCain found both a social companion and a political mentor. “Tower treated him like a son,” recalled I. N. Kiland, one of Mr. McCain’s colleagues in the liaison office. “And John idolized John Tower.” (Mr. McCain, in his memoir, acknowledged the “familial” comparisons.)

Budding comeraderie
Mr. Tower was a high-living political powerhouse. But he was also a former Navy man who had served under Mr. McCain’s grandfather in World War II and was so sentimental about his service that he stayed in the reserves through his Senate career and packed his uniform for every trip abroad, his aides said.One of Mr. McCain’s first jobs as liaison was accompanying a delegation Mr. Tower led to the Wehrkunde conference, an annual security meeting in Munich during the Bavarian equivalent of Mardi Gras. The conference became known as kind of senatorial spring break.

The event has grown “a lot tamer” since the late ’70s, recalled Mr. Cohen, who described the heyday of the conference vividly in his novel, “Dragon Fire”: “Beer and passions flowed. All restrictions were off. Grounds for divorce were suspended. Members of Congress, particularly the unmarried ones, would look at the German women, who were ready and willing for the taking, and think they had slipped the surly bonds of moral conformity.”

In Washington, Mr. Tower began summoning Mr. McCain for a drink at the end of the day. And when they traveled, Mr. McCain took charge of supplying Mr. Tower’s hotel rooms with Johnnie Walker Black. One night at a hotel in Saudi Arabia, one of many Middle Eastern countries where alcohol is banned, Mr. McCain amused his patron by leaving empty bottles for the authorities to find outside the room of a group of Frenchmen — a prank Mr. Tower later delighted at recounting.

‘A rapt student’
The Texan also influenced Mr. McCain’s approach to politics. Mr. Tower, who as a graduate student in London had studied the prewar British Conservative Party, saw in President Carter shades of Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain’s appeasement, his former aides recalled. As the senior Republican on the Armed Services Committee, Mr. Tower hammered Mr. Carter over the hostages in Iran, support for Taiwan, SALT II and the Soviet invasion in Afghanistan — debates Mr. Tower and other hawks saw as skirmishes in a larger battle over whether America would shrink from confrontation or return to the offensive after Vietnam.

“McCain was a rapt student,” said Mr. Dawson, the former Tower aide. “He followed the debates, and he would take part in them in ways that went way beyond his position as bag-carrier or representative of the Navy.”

Mr. Tower was so close to his protégé that he sometimes raised eyebrows by including Mr. McCain in committee staff meetings that were closed to other military liaisons, Mr. Kiland said. His close ties with Mr. Tower, in turn, helped Mr. McCain earn high marks from his Navy bosses, although with some reservations about his grasp for details.

“Sometimes you had to really explain things to him and put him in a context that he really appreciated,” said former Adm. George Kinnear, Captain McCain’s Pentagon superior. “But he was a hard worker once he bought off on an issue.”

Mr. McCain, with his fame and family, would circumvent the Navy’s chain of command for senators with issues like fighting a base closure, pushing for a new Navy hospital or helping a local contractor, aides said. “McCain had a big Rolodex, we used to say,” recalled Michael Hastings, a former Cohen aide. “He could really deliver for senators on both sides of the aisle.”

Working from the inside out
Over time, Captain McCain also became a minor political player in his own right, sometimes working against the Navy’s official position under the Carter administration. To agitate for laws boosting military pay, former aides said, Mr. McCain steered senators on a trip to Norfolk, Va., toward Navy seamen collecting food stamps. And when the secretary of the Navy declined to replace a giant aircraft carrier, Mr. McCain collected information inside the Navy for lobbyists pushing to build a new one, eventually helping to override a presidential veto.

In his e-mail message, Mr. McCain said he had only been exercising his responsibility to provide senators “the latest and most accurate information.” But former Adm. Clarence A. Hill Jr., then a lobbyist for a new carrier working with Mr. McCain, said: “He was going behind the back of the secretary of the Navy. It is as simple as that.”

A shift into politics
Mr. McCain said in his e-mail message that he had found his Navy job “rewarding and fascinating until my last day of service,” but his former colleagues say that by 1980 they knew he was wrestling with his future.

“There was always this question, ‘Didn’t he want to be an admiral like his father and grandfather?’ ’ Mr. Hastings recalled. “He would say, ‘I don’t think that is what I want to do with the rest of my life.’ ”

Navy psychiatrists offered another explanation. Mr. McCain had long struggled to escape “the shadow of his father,” Dr. P. F. O’Connell wrote in Mr. McCain’s Navy file after his return from Vietnam. But his hero’s homecoming had liberated him, bringing a “smile of fulfillment and relief” when he first heard Admiral McCain introduced as “Commander McCain’s father.” Dr. O’Connell wrote: “He had arrived.”

Finally, in the spring of 1981, Mr. McCain told his father that he was leaving the Navy.

His Senate friends were already moving to jump-start Mr. McCain’s new career. Mr. Cohen connected Mr. McCain with an experienced political consultant, J. Brian Smith, who had initially dismissed working for such a neophyte. And, Mr. Cohen said, he also encouraged Mr. McCain to look away from his previous home in Florida and toward Arizona. His new wife came from a prominent family there, a safe Republican House seat was expected to open up, and Senator Barry Goldwater was expected to retire soon.

Tears for a ‘damn fine sailor’
Mr. Tower did more than anyone else to help. He lent Mr. McCain his fund-raising consultant, raised money for him and enlisted one of Arizona’s most popular Republicans to endorse Mr. McCain over two more experienced primary candidates. “Whatever I asked him for, he gave without hesitation,” Mr. McCain recalled.

He won his House seat in 1982, a year after he left the Navy, and his Senate seat four years later. Mr. Tower retired in 1985, but their paths crossed again when the Texan was nominated to be secretary of defense by President George Bush. The influential Christian conservative organizer Paul M. Weyrich accused Mr. Tower of public drunkenness and philandering, imperiling his confirmation. A chorus of others echoed the charges.

Mr. McCain was stunned at the Senate’s outrage. “There were too many hearty drinkers around the place who might not always have been the most exemplary of devoted spouses to begrudge John his vices,” he wrote in a chapter of his memoirs. “The sins Tower was accused of were hardly Washington novelties.”

Leaping to his mentor’s defense, Mr. McCain denounced Mr. Weyrich as a holier-than-thou hypocrite, scrambled to discredit the charges and exploded in fits of rage at colleagues. At Mr. Tower’s defeat, Mr. McCain choked back tears.

“God bless you, John Tower,” he said from the Senate floor. “You’re a damn fine sailor.”

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BTW, I think McCain is a good and honorable (if flawed) man. I’d drink with the guy any day of the week. But I can’t vote for him. His statements, and likely policy, on the Iraq War are an anathema to me…