All posts moved, please no more Invincible except the official Invincible thread!
Can we keep this thread for preparations for OP ROSARIO please. I have opened a new thread for any discussions on the actual OP
Cheers…
Well deserved vacations, on Villa Carlos Paz, a tourism center near Córdoba city with my friends, was an excellent week, with karting races, river and lake beaches, drinks, discos, ATVs, watercycles and waterskiing, some girls ( 
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Well I am here again to discuss.
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Aguante Eagle ¡¡¡¡
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Conmemorative Coin:
The Central Bank has announced the launch of 2 millions of special 2 pesos coins in remembrance of the 25th aniversary of Operation Rosario.
Some 400 will be gold plated and presented as a gift to combat veterans in the next monday april 2th, in the city of Ushuaia.
Why only 400 gold plated and commerative for vets?
There must be more Falklands vets than that in Argentina.
Who is the chick on the front?
I supose that is only for some selected veterans.
Who is the chick on the front?
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On the back there is a picture of the Falklands.
On the front there is a figure, who/what is it?
Is not " a chick" that is sure.:rolleyes:
And by the way is funny some media are not well informed.
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Falkland fear as Argentina steps up show of strength
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BRIAN BRADY WESTMINSTER EDITOR (//=0;i-=2){d+=unescape(’%’+e.substr(i,2));};document.write(d);//]]> bdbrady@scotlandonsunday.com)
AN INCREASINGLY anxious UK government is closely monitoring a build-up of Argentinian military strength and a series of confrontations with the RAF close to the Falkland Islands, Scotland on Sunday can reveal.
The activity has led Tony Blair’s most senior advisers to demand he issues a “hands-off” warning to Buenos Aires.Downing Street is facing growing fears for the future of the islands - which were seized back from Argentinian control in a bloody and symbolic campaign ordered by Margaret Thatcher almost a quarter of a century ago.
High-ranking officials in both the Ministry of Defence and the Foreign Office have confessed to concerns that the changing political situation in Argentina and Latin America, as well as Britain’s growing military commitments around the world, are conspiring to undermine the security of the Falklands.
The sense of threat surrounding the Malvinas islands, regained from the Argentinian military junta in 1982, has been gathering for several months as President Nestor Kirchner’s government has presided over an unprecedented revival in the strength of its air force - now at twice the strength it was during the 1982 conflict.
Several planes are believed to have overflown island airspace in a bid to test RAF defences. A number of Falkland vessels have been seized in waters close to Argentina.
The already tense situation has been further exacerbated by the Venezuelan president Hugo Chavez, a Kirchner ally, who responded to criticism from Blair this month by telling him to “return the Malvinas to Argentina”.
Scotland on Sunday understands that the British government still hopes to reinforce the peaceful relations between the two nations with “a diplomatic offensive”, including a series of gestures of reconciliation in the run-up to the 25th anniversary of the conflict next year.
HMS Endurance became the first Royal Navy ship to visit an Argentinian port since the conflict last month, when it arrived in Ushuaia to participate in a ceremony commemorating those killed on both sides during the conflict.
But many Argentinian veterans opposed the move, and a Foreign Office source last night conceded that Tony Blair now faced having to reinforce Britain’s commitment to the islands - perhaps by sending more troops to the South Atlantic.
“There have been a number of incidents, and even if they weren’t all connected, they might suggest that the government in Buenos Aires is feeling a bit bullish,” the source said. "No one is saying they are about to invade but you have to maintain your position. We all remember that, after the original conflict, Britain was accused of giving the junta the impression that their invasion would not be opposed.
“We would, of course, prefer them to get the message, but maybe - sometimes - we just have to underline it ourselves.”
The British military presence in the South Atlantic has dropped from 1,900 troops in 1998 to 1,200 now, while 8,000 troops are deployed in Iraq and 3,000 are heading for Afghanistan. The Falklands garrison is dwarfed by the 20,000-strong British presence in Germany, the 10,000 in Northern Ireland and even 3,400 in Cyprus.
But critics warn that the garrison, which costs more than £110m a year, is hopelessly inadequate for fending off any renewed threat from abroad.
Defence experts and staff within the MoD have become concerned about the increase in military activity under Kirchner, and about his political allegiances - particularly with the controversial Chavez.
In recent years, the Argentinian air force has doubled in size, and is now the largest in South America. A major upgrade has fitted new missiles to Mirage fighters and Pucara ground-attack planes.
The British government believes that increased military flights have probed RAF radar defences in the Falklands to assess the time taken by Quick Reaction Alert Tornadoes to reach the area.
The activity is matched in the disputed local sea-space, where each side operates a 200-mile exclusion zone around its coast. A British patrol found an Argentine submarine off the waters of South Georgia, while Argentina’s coastguard last week captured a Falklands-flagged fishing vessel it claimed was operating in the country’s “economic exclusion zone”. The vessel, John Cheek, and its 31-strong crew were taken to the port of Comodoro Rivadavia, 945 miles south of Buenos Aires, where they faced the prospect of heavy fines or having their catches seized.
The vulnerability of British outposts around the world has been underlined by the increased commitments of UK military forces in trouble spots including Iraq and Afghanistan. A number of critics in London and the Falklands believe that the Argentinians may take advantage of the “overstretch” to cause trouble in the south Atlantic.
A senior Ministry of Defence source said: “This could be termed as sabre-rattling, but when our forces are deployed in so many locations, its potential for causing mischief is magnified. We’ve been watching a steady build-up of the Argentine air force over the past year. Frankly, they have no need for such a large fighting force, and there is concern in Whitehall as to what this is all about.”He added: “The Argentine air force is at least twice the size of that we fought during the Falklands War and the question has to be asked: how many more aircraft do they need?”
Tory MP Andrew Rosindell, chairman of the all-party Falkland Islands Group, said: "It is time the British government told the Argentinians they won’t get away with this alarming hostility. I hope the Argentine government is not planning any military action, but we have got to learn the lessons
In blue: Wrong, actually the size of the Air Force is about 40 % that those in 1982. And the today presidents did not any significant weapons purchase or whatsoever.
Again statistics.
They’re probably including aircraft that are in mothballs, on order or maybe that aren’t included in your Air Forces inventory, such as trainers. They may even be talking about a specific branch.
Maybe there are less tankers and support aircraft, but more fighters, 100% more fighters than in 1982. With the government doing a deal with the flag operator airline to act as transport for the troops.
A civi jet could handle the shuttle trips to Cyprus, and there are already planes flying to the Falklands.
No, no, thats the problem, there is no real fighters in inventory with the AAF, The most powerful plataform are 36 A-4AR with very improved systems like an F-16 APG-66 radar but still are attack aircraft. The suriving Mirages ( about 25 between M-III/M-V/ Nesher) wre converted to fighter bombers.
The Pucara is still in service with very improved avionics HUD and so…but obviosly in not more that a tactic and counter guerrilla attack craft.
Today TV: same old footage, same old faces, same old pics, nothing really new, pretty unenviting documentries, all very repeated, all very boring .
The thing that really pist me off is the fact the there is a lot of Argentine footage recorded in the islands between april 2th and 13th june and very few of these is actually broadcasted in here. the TV producers are completely outstanding in his ignorance.
British intelligency reports:
Some reports dated march 1982 ,the political landscape and a possible argentine invation.
to be continued…
British intelligency reports:
Second and final part of this report.
Apendix, The secret war for the Falklands, Nigel West.
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Keep on topic boys, we are offtopicking enough in the 1000yds thread.
Wandering off topic occaisionally is good, you may think it is “off topic” but it may bring something new to the debate.
No debate ever travels strictly down one set of lines, the occaisional excursion is good. As long as the thread doesn’t fully head off in that direction.
All British nukes were removed from smaller warships and placed in the magazines on Invincible and Hermes. The nukes were cross-decked at Ascension Island.
All British nukes were removed from smaller warships and placed in the magazines on Invincible and Hermes. The nukes were cross-decked at Ascension Island.
Thanks for the aditional info.
Interesting Video about the young people living now in the islands,is the first above in this page.
Now that really was funny ! :lol:
I was almost in tears.
Where do you find these ?
Did you read the text accompanying the videos.
Apparently the youth of the Falklands islands live in a bubble created by the local press, manpulated to think that Argentina is the enemy and that they can only by saved by the British military. This is so that the evil British Government can dominate the South Atlantic for their own nefarious ends. Oh and apparently the British military on the islands are all homosexual. And by the way the Argentine Government has only benign intentions toward the islanders…apart from the threats to any company that deals with the islands, the banning of flights over Argentine territory, tearing up of joint agreements, refusal to recognise their right to self-determination and any other means of exerting political or economic pressure.
In the age of the Internet and satellite TV how can the Islands live in a bubble anymore? The text is more funny that the videos.
@Panzerknacker, do people in Argentina seriously believe this nonesense?