Has anyone heard from the Sloane Stranger, of late?
I’ve been busy, some people keep firing ammunition faster than we can make it.
Inconsiderate of them, what? 
We had a visit from some of the guys who’d been using our kit in the field, quite humbling really.
Argentine Canberra navigator Remains identified
PRELIMINARY DNA tests have identified human remains, returned to Argentina from the Falklands in August, are likely to be those of Air Force navigator Captain Fernando Casado.
Captain Casado is believed to have been shot down during the last air incursion before the end of the Falklands War in June 1982. According to Buenos Aires newspaper Clarin, Captain Fernando Casado (37) who was married with three children, was co-piloting a Canberra MK-62 which together with a second bomber left Rio Gallegos on June 13 at 2130 hours carrying bombs. His aircraft was likely to have been shot down by a British missile. The Canberra pilot survived but Captain Casado did not eject in time.
Fernando Casado.
The preliminary DNA reports are from Argentina’s National Genetic Bank, Durand Hospital Immunology Department. The results of the tests were apparently sent to the Argentine Foreign Affairs Ministry last week. Foreign Affairs Minister Jorge Taiana refused to comment until the family had been informed.
Clarin said the remains were DNA tested and compared with those of Captain Casado’s living brother.
The report continues, “The Argentine Air Force from the very beginning speculated that the remains could have come from the Canberra’s incursion given the place where they were found. Although discovered in 1986 they were held at Stanley Police Station.
Argentina should be a very wealthy country, yet it has very many poor people. Argentina is also a large country. Yet the Malvinas is such an issue for it, the only logic of this is that it suits the powers that be in Argentina to distract attention away from failures by Argentine Governments over the years by keeping issues such as the Malvinas on the boil. The fact of the matter is that if Argentina was handed the Malvinas tomorrow, the elites within Argentina would have to find something else to distract the population with and as sure as night follows day, Argentina would start having territitorial disputes with its Latin American neighbours.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0d/Chilean_Navy_Saar_4.jpg
Best and Warm Regards
Adrian Wainer
As someone who has personally been to the Falkland I have to say that I cant imagine what Argentina would actually gain from it or do with it. Other than a Talisman for he people I struggle to see what it would bring them.
To be brutally honest, I really do believe that the UK doesnt really want them either, but 1982 is still in living memory and like it or not is seen as a great British triumph over adversity, in fact being honest, its a war we really should have lost.
Argentina lost it through sheer incompetence, yes, some of their armed forces performed well, but the focus was lost, the troops were the wrong type and the Argentines handed the UK a victory.
12 months later and Argentina could have won the thing without a fight. However, I dont think even then they would still be there.
Adrian:
Argentina is not govermente by a elite unfortunately, right now is governed by the left wing of the justicialist party wich is very much a workers and middle class party formed with people like that.
That is why people here should keep in the military aspect of the war and dont get in things that they dont know about it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLsJt0xfVVs
In the last months of his presidency, Kirchner had to weather several scandals. His Minister of Economy Felisa Miceli was forced to resign over more than $60,000 found stashed in a bag in her office bathroom, and a businessman carrying a suitcase with US$800,000 in cash, on a government-hired jet traveling from Venezuela, was discovered at an Argentine airport.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Néstor_Kirchner
http://www.newser.com/story/15952/inside-the-800k-suitcase-scandal.html
LOL All poor toilers of the soil no doubt.
Best and Warm Regards
Adrian Wainer
The politics of a country are what determine the initiation, conduct and termination of a conflict.
It is a very rare Armed Forces that marches with out the orders of its government (excluding military coups of course! )
Why is it unfortunate that Argentinia is ruled by Left wing workers and middle class? I would imagine such a government is not as keen on war fighting to gain the Falklands, as perhaps a right wing government.
All poor toilers of the soil no doubt.
Best and Warm Regards
Adrian Wainer
Uh…one thing is to have money and other thing is to be part of the Elite, I could do get rich too but hardly going get into the “elite”, at list the high class, high educated society, long traditioned that I undesrtand as elite.
The richness of the Kirchnners has begun with its career in politic ( hardly a surprize), mostly with their participation in the formulation of oil policies in the Patagonia.
I wouldnt mind to be governed by a high society as long that goverment is good. Unfortunately the “elite” had wasted oportunities when they had the chance to rule the country.
Why is it unfortunate that Argentinia is ruled by Left wing workers and middle class?
Is unfortunate because the leftist know nothing about real world economy and also because they think 2008 is 1978, they live in the past, always in the past.
You´re right wing doesn´t appear to be much further in to the present though.
Why do they think 1978? Do you mean their policies, or how they think the world runn?
Hi Panzerknacker, good posting thanx, sorry I was using the word “elites” in a much different sense ie an elite of people who are deliberately manipulating things to protect their their position in society, so that e.g. in South Africa if I remember correctly black people were not allowed to drive trains and thus in that case one could say that white traindrivers were part of the white supremacist elite. So it is not exactly necessary for an elite in that sense, to be wealthy or aristocratic or to have been to a prestige university.
Best and Warm Regards
Adrian Wainer
Unfortunately Panzerknacker, for many Leftists if they had gotten as far as 1978 they would be truly advanced, in that many leftists are still stuck in 1917 and haven’t got as far as the 1920s or even the 1950s when many people who had previously been enthusiastic about communistic and far-left ideology decided it was a completely bad thing. One can see this in the adoration the President of Venezuela Hugo Chavez attracts in Europe from leftist circles, yet at the same time he pals around with Islamofascists like the President of the so called “Islamic” Republic of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose defacto position is that World belongs to Islam and all non-Muslims who refuse to convert to Islam should be enslaved or put to the sword. Since the majority of Venezuela is Catholic, this effectively means that the President of Venezuela, whose duty is to uphold the Constitution is promoting the enslavement of the nation, well if this is Bolivarianism I’m a banana.
http://www.spelledsideways.com/home/satire/satire.shtml
Best and Warm Regards
Adrian Wainer
Whoa there lads.
This is an Argentine/UK War topic, lets not start straying.
Back on topic please, discussions of communism and other countries should only happen if they are pertinent to the subject in hand. Islam and Hugo Chavez didnt play a part in the conflict to the best of my knowledge.
Cheers.
Indeed. I would suggest discussion of why raving liberal lefties love homophobic Wahabist islamists is best held in off topic under a title like “ROTFLMAO” or similar.
For the newer members, this forum is by far the most tightly moderated on the board for historical reasons. The 1982 war between the UK and Argentina over the Falkands/Malvinas islands is to this day an extremely emotive subject, and we have a large number of members from both the UK and Argentina on this board.
I only want to ad that Adrian Wainer is correct. Yes, Chavez is by now the ultimate neolithic leftist prick.
You´re right wing doesn´t appear to be much further in to the present though.
I dont know what kind of information arrives to your pink apartament complex but the fact is this: there are no right wing parties in Argentina, there is no a Republican Party like in US or a Partido Popular like in Spain or a Conservative party as in UK.
Maybe I need to create one.
Hi Firefly, first of all very impressed with the forum well done everybody. Not to argue with you but just to explain where I was coming from, since as best as understand it the inclusion of the word “aftermatch” means that it is legitimate to comment on the Argentine British dispute over the Falklands/Malvinas in respect of how the situation has evolved since the re-establishement of British rule on the Islands till the present day, one needs to have some discussion of Argentine and Latin American politics, [ but if I was wrong in how I understood “aftermatch” please tell me ]. That said, I think I have well made my point that just because a Leftist President would be in the Casa Rosada, ( rather than some General ) one should not assume they would be unwilling to embark on military adventures, so point being made I don’t really need to pursue it further.
Best and Warm Regards
Adrian Wainer
Adrian, point taken, I think aftermath pertains to the direct aftermath, not 25 years later. No offence meant or taken though, keep up the good work.
Finally in Home
[b][SIZE=3]Argentina honors last airman downed in Falklands’ war.
[/SIZE][/b]In a moving military ceremony the remains of an Argentine Air Force Canberra navigator shot down over the Falkland Islands in 1982 were handed on Monday to his family for burial in Cordoba.
Mayor Casado urn and sword before been handed to his family
The ceremony in the military premises of Buenos Aires Aeroparque was headed by Defence minister Nilda Garré and Deputy Foreign Affairs minister Victorio Taccetti as well as Joint Chief of Staff Brigadier Jorge Chevalier and the whole command from the Air Force, several of them Malvinas war veterans.
Mayor (post mortem) Fernando Juan Casado and his BMK 62 Canberra were shot down on June 13th, the day before the end of the conflict, but remains were not found until 1986 in a near by beach, and were later deposited in the Stanley Police station.
Earlier this year the remains were returned to Argentina and with the scientific support of the country’s Genetic Data Bank, following DNA tests they were identified as belonging to navigator Casado.
During the ceremony Argentine Air Force commander Brigadier Normando Constantino expressed gratitude to the ministries of Defence and Foreign Affairs for their efforts in obtaining the remains.
Constantino also thanked the Genetic Bank for the identification and praised Mayor Casado who was to be the last airman downed over the Islands during combat with the British task force.
The last mission, two Canberra escorted by two Mirage III, left from Rio Gallegos to bomb Port Harriet House at 21:30 hours but only one of the bombers returned. His companion pilot Roberto Pastrán managed to parachute and was made prisoner.
The Canberra was shot down by a Sea Dart missile from HMS Exeter in Fitz Roy. The following day Argentine forces surrendered in Stanley.
The ceremony ended with the presentation of the remains plus a Malvinas veterans’ cap, graduation sword and an Argentine flag to his widow and three children, one of them Air Force captain.
Casado’s remains and his family were then flown to Cordoba in a Hercules C-130 for the final resting place in the Malvinas mausoleum of Carlos Paz cemetery.
Brigadier Chevalier and Constantino are both Malvinas war veteran pilots. Chevalier belonged to the Canberra bombers wing.
(Mercopress)
