This might not be the place, but I was wondering if you, Panzerknacker or any one could provide me with a list of maximum ranges of the differing weapons used by the Panzertruppen and schwere artillerie of the Heer during the war: for example, the 17cm and 21cm morser, the panzer 15cm to be used on Maus, the 12.8cm of the Jagdtiger, the 8.8cm of the PzKw VIb, etc.
I don’t want the ranges at which they would penetrate armor, I need the maximum ranges that these guns could achieve at maximum elevation.
Any help would be appreciated.
Schwerepunkt
The most “findable” and cheap source that comes to my mind is Encyclopedia of Weapons of WW2 of the Barnes Noble publisher, somewhat basic but in that book you ll find out the info you need.If you have some trouble finding the book send me a PM and I ll give you a hand.
what a long and very very interesting thread here,… very very informative and well explained,… thanks to Panzerknacker,…
Thanks man, all my topics had the tendency to be in that way. 
Another pic of the Alkett Heuschrecke. It was captured in Holland.
Hey PzKnckr, seems as for the Wehrmacht, it was the right product were chosen over the bad one,… as it was not happened to the Luftwaffe,… dont you think?
as it was mentioned many times by the Germans army/ss vets,. they were beaten by the Airforce,… as Luftwaffe lost long time before the war ends,.
The waffenamt had just as many ludicrous projects as the Luftwaffe, for example, the waste of effort on the MAUS and other supertanks. The Thor Morser and the Dora huge railroad gun were also complete wastes of manpower and resources.
Thank you Panzerknacker for the info on ranges of German tank guns and artillery.
I was wondering what the caliber (both barrel and length) of the Gescheutzwagen Lowe would have been: 105mm/70 or better? My 1/285 collection includes many German panzer projects, the E-100, the MAUS, the Panther II (F/G model with 88/71) the Kugelblitz. I am trying to get them to produce the twin 88 flak panzer (either MAUS or E-100).
:shock::)
PS: The German Army was the Heer: the Wehrmacht was all three German services: Heer, Luftwaffe and Kriegsmarine
Hey PzKnckr, seems as for the Wehrmacht, it was the right product were chosen over the bad one,… as it was not happened to the Luftwaffe,… dont you think?
as it was mentioned many times by the Germans army/ss vets,. they were beaten by the Airforce,… as Luftwaffe lost long time before the war ends,.
Hey man, dont deformate my nick, by the way, sorry but I dont quite understand your question.
Thank you Panzerknacker for the info on ranges of German tank guns and artillery.
I was wondering what the caliber (both barrel and length) of the Gescheutzwagen Lowe would have been: 105mm/70 or better? My 1/285 collection includes many German panzer projects, the E-100, the MAUS, the Panther II (F/G model with 88/71) the Kugelblitz. I am trying to get them to produce the twin 88 flak panzer (either MAUS or E-100).
70 calibres for a 105 mm gun ? dont think so the longer barrel i ve seen is a 54 calibres, an even that seems too much for a panzer armament.
Well, if an 88mm can be 71 calibers in length, why not a 105mm? It just seems to me the barrel is extremely long. But I must defer to your judgement on this matter.
I think if the Germans could build an 800mm/31.5 caliber artillery piece, why not a 105mm/70? The carriage was a Pzkw VI B extended.
Anyway, thanks again for all of the info you supply this forum.
Is not practical for panzers, if is for a fixed emplacement of railway artillery would be okay ( even probably would need some kind of structure above it)
A 70 calibres gun would be the same long ( a little more actually) of a panther with a L/101 gun, you can imagine that ?
The gun would bend due its own weight, the maneouvrability would be extremely restricted ( gun hitting everything on turns).
The german made a 156 calibres gun in WW1 but actually those was 2 in one and with a hefty support of it for limitated the “wip effect” when shooting and to prevent the barrel bending like a fishing rod by the enourmous weight.
Panzerknacker do you know anything about the Thor track mounted artillery?
I meant, Wehrmacht seems having right AFVs during WW2,… unlike Luftwaffe,… instead of He 112,. they had Bf109,… instead FW187 they had Bf110 and instead,… one fieseler (forgot the series) dive bomber,… they had Ju87,… and all the one who won the bid,. was actually not potentially a war winning weapon,… it was partly mistake to Mr Udet.
You mean the Heer ( army) had the right combat equipment ?
Well that perhaps is true, but you can see in this topic that they wasted a lot of effort on some other ideas and not always the best or the more practical ones.
yeah,… i guess i stated that over the Pz IV thread yes?,… but it is interesting for us to know for any hidden projects,…
btw your avatar,… the handsome looking dude,… who is he?
My avatar ? we have a topic for that too. quite a good forum isnt ?
Attached is the vehicle I was talking about, the Geschutzwagen Lowe, based upon the E-100 or Waffentrager Grille type. The gun mounted on this vehicle is very long, it has a brace to hold it in place during movement. The caliber does not seem too large, (less than 128mm) but more than 88mm.
Germany was planning guns of 150mm and 170 mm from 70 to 100 caliber for their super tanks. These possibly might have been alternatives to the 28cm of Ratte 1. 
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Wasn’t the hull of a prototype nearly completed when the war ended? I can remember that i saw a photo of the chassis back.
That was the Grille 17cm cannon, 21cm cannon or 42cm mortar carriage. This vehicle is based on that carriage supposedly.
Attached is the vehicle I was talking about, the Geschutzwagen Lowe, based upon the E-100 or Waffentrager Grille type.
If is the geschützwagen Lowe…it should be based in the Löwe :rolleyes:
That design ( Löwe heavy panzer) is in the page 1 of this topic
Leichte Panzerspähwagen Für Tropen.
On july 21 1941 the Waffenamt requested a design for a new armored car. This new panzerspähwagen ( armored recce vehicle) should be based in a shortened Sd.Kfz 234 chassis, using its same frontal and sides with a redesigned rear armor and engine compartiment and m,any commom parts as possible and practical.
As an adaptation for the western desert the vehicle had several ventilation ports, also its engine a brand new Tatra V910 diesel was air cooled intean using a more complicated ( and somewhat inconvenient in Libya) water coolant.
The main armament was an automatic k.w.K 38 20 mm gun and a coaxial Mg 34. The proyected weight was 7 tons and the panzerspähwagen should use a turret heavily based in the one of the Sd.Kfz 222, open top with antigrenade mesh screen.
Büssing Nag was awarded with an contract of 500 vehicles to be ready in 1943, however the low priority of the project and the lack of the new Czech engines demorated the design until 1943 , 2 prototipes were made, one in july 1942 and other in October 1943 . In that date Germany was already pushed out Afrika, The project was obviously cancelled, there was no more need of that vehicle.
Leitche Panzerspähwagen für Tropen
Type: Recce armored car for hot climates.
Armor: Max 30 mm min 10 mm
Engine: Diesel Tatra V910 V8 125 hp
Speed: 70 km/h
Weight: 6900kg
Crew: 4, commander, Gunner/loader, front driver and rear driver