Polish Military

Agree with you!

Warsaw October 1939:

Guderian in talks with Russian officer at “German-Russian” border - 1939

German-Soviet treaty:
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/nazsov/gsbound.htm

…and one of the secret annexes:
http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/nazsov/sesupp1.htm

Few photos Polish destroyer ORP Błyskawica preserved as Museum in Gdynia (Poland).

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The ORP Błyskawica is a Polish destroyer, currently preserved as a museum ship in Gdynia. It is the only ship of the Polish Navy awarded with the Virtuti Militari medal.

She was the latter of two Grom-class destroyers, built for the Polish Navy by J. Samuel White, Cowes. The name means The Lightning. The two Groms were some of the most heavily-armed destroyers on the seas before World War II.

Two days before the war, on 30 August 1939, the Błyskawica was withdrawn, along with the Grom and the Burza destroyers, from the Baltic Sea to Britain to avoid their loss. Then, they acted in tandem with the Royal Navy’s Home Fleet. On 7 September 1939 Błyskawica made contact with and attacked a U-Boat, resulting in possibly the first combat between the Allied and the German fleets.

In early May 1940 Błyskawica took part in the Norwegian Campaign, shelling German positions and downing two Luftwaffe aircraft. Her sister ship Grom was bombed and sunk during the campaign. Later that month, she took part in covering Operation Dynamo, the wildly-successful Franco-British evacuation from Dunkerque.

During the remainder of the war, the Błyskawica took part in convoy and patrol duties, engaging both U-boats and the Luftwaffe in the Atlantic and Mediterranean Sea. In 1941 her 120-mm guns were replaced with British four-inch (102-mm) anti-aircraft guns. On 8 June 1944 the Błyskawica took part in a battle with the German destroyers at Ushant.

During the war, she logged 146,000 nautical miles and escorted eighty-three convoys. In combat she damaged three U-boats and shot down at least four aircraft before the war’s conclusion in May 1945, also took part in sinking some other ships.

Bridge of ORP Błyskawica decorated with Virtuti Militari medalAfter the war, she returned to Poland. Since 1 May 1976 she has served as museum ship in Gdynia, replacing the Burza.

few info about ORP Blyskawica from wikipedia

many polish soldiers stopped in the uk after the war, there are many in and around my home town. I know of a polish club complete with a 10ft high polish eagle in stafford, staffordshire. lots of people whos surname ends in ‘ski’!

One Old polish boy was employed by an agency to act as a security guard at my company. I got talking to him and it turned out he was 76 years old. an Ex-Paratrooper, Done his bit in WW2 and was feeling as young as ever and was looking forward to getting married again next week!

My home City has a large Polish community that developed post WW2. I’ve had the great good fortune to meet many of their veterans, most’ly ex Airbourne around rememberence day 11/11( in the UK) as my dad was well known in the ex services community. As a sprog their storys turned into lessons learned and passed on to my son now serving. I have nothing but respect for their proud but sadly dwinderling numbers

As I mentioned in the thread about serving relatives, my Grandfather, Piotr Potworowski, was a Polish Cavalry Officer in WWI and the September campaign, and then escaped to Britain, where he was given leave of absence owing to being a bit past it!

My something cousin many times removed, Tomasz, (I think Potworowski, although off the top of my head I can’t remember!) was a signaller in 1st Polish Armoured Div in Normandy.

As mentioned, the Polish Airforce made a considerable contribution, with escaped pilots fighting for France in the spring of 1940 before then moving to fight in the RAF! 303 Polish Squadron was the most successful Battle of Britain Squadron, I believe.

Polish troops also fought in Italy, and as mentioned, much enigma breaking work was brought over from Poland too.

Many people in the world think that in September Campagin, Poland was only defending self. They all are wrong becose Poles had one ocassion to invade Germany.

In 2 September 1939, 17 Pulk Ulanow (17 Regiment of Ulan’s) under command of General Abraham, crossed german border and has occupied town of Geyrsdorf. When Ulan’s where attacking the town, polish artilery had destroyed german garrison.

Near Czarnkow village, Germans attacked polish troop’s near border. Poles had stoped them and chased several kilometers on the german land.

In the night betwen 2 and 3 September, 2 Squadrons of 10 Regiment of Ulan’s attacked West Prussia and took over town of Belczac (i don’t know the German name), next
9 Horse Regiment, thanks surprise, took over towns of Brzozki Wielkie and Sokolow and many german POW’s. Squadrons of 5 Regiment, erned city Klarheim.

Can you prove that ,put source or something.

Texwiller wrote

Don’t forget that they started to work on enigma machine before the Brits.

Enigma was a commercially available equipment and used in America also at the time, but the German military had some specific key mat to use in the device.

The polish captured this essential equipment and passed it out to the Brits.

It was smuggled out of the country by men of the British Armys Royal Corps’ of Signals, who were disguised as a Rugby team on tour.

They hold the dubious honour of being the only British (indeed allied) soldiers to be subjected to a gas attack during WW2.

The “work” of cracking the enigma code was conducted at Bletchly Park in GB on the worlds FIRST programable computer colosus. This computer was destroyed and hidden at theend of the war.

Thus the american claim to have built the first programable computer was rendered rubbish when the 50 year secrecy rule allowed information on the cracking of Enigma to be realeased.

U-571 is the biggest crock of sh1t ever commited to film.

The Poles were very brave if completely outclassed by the Nazis. Please read my posts on the matter that I will find fo ryou later.

I have met poles who fought in the Battle fo Britain and fought the Nazi Blitzkrig on horse back. This was in Poland on a Britsh Exercise. Ex Uhlan Eagle.

Polish Armour & infantry played a VITAL part in the Normandy breakout - Mt Pincon & the “Mace” battle. Few were braver.

Welcome to the site topor :smiley: , if you need any help or questions mate dont hesitate to ask me or a fellow mod/admin. :wink: :wink:

A found this info, form some polish sites and book “Kierunek Prussy” (Target: Prussia). And beside that, I had lessons about this charges in high school

All pages all in polish. I haven’t found anything about it in any english site. I notice that polish contribution in WWII is often minimalized to be the first country that Germany invaded on many sites, nothing more. :>
Site about polish cavalery
Caledarium of September Campaign

Ok thank you ,but i don translate nothing :lol:

Hi,

A really great site (in English) giving brief overview of the Polish Army divisions fighting Nazi Germany on the Italian front (1943-1945) under the command of Gen. Wladyslaw Anders - the Polish II Korpus.

www.polishsoldier.co.uk


it is a great site man! :smiley: ,thank you.

btw,Welcome Aboard!

Agreed. Welcome to the fourms, and nice site :smiley:

Hi,

Another great Polish WW2 (Polish Government sponsored) website with historical overeview of the Polish Forces from the 1939 camapign to Polish Underground (AK), the ‘Polish Free Forces’ of the government in exile, the Battle of Britain etc., including Polish Armed Forces fighting with the Red Army
Site also has good photogallery, Bibliography and Sources sections.

www.ww2.pl

Hope you enjoy it :smiley:

Kinokero
www.PolandWW2.com

Paintingsbelow by veteran soldier Ted Murawski Home Army (AK) of the Warsaw Uprising 1944 who died in 2002 in Australia.

Some nice postingd there mate. Can I ask what your Avtar is?

Hi, pleased you like the links :slight_smile:

This is excellent site (in Polish) related to the Polish Campaign 1939.
http://www.1939.pl But don’t be put off by it being in Polish as there are many interesting pages of visual information and if you need rough and ready online Polish/English translation http://www.poltran.com will be helpful :lol:

My avatar is the breast badge of the Polish 4th Armoured Regiment ‘Scorpion’ (Pulku 4 Pancerny ’ Skorpion’ ) in which my dead father served in Italy as part of the Polish II Korpus, 2nd ‘Warszawska’ Armoured Divison (2 Warszawska Dywizia Pancerna). This unit was the senior tank regiment of the Polish 2nd Corps and was formed mainly from Polish prisoners deported to gulags in Soviet Union after USSR invaded Poland 17th September 1939 and claimed Eastern Poland. Some of these prisoners that survived were released by Stalin in 1941 when he switched sides and joined the western Allies after Germans invaded USSR in 1941 and under Gen. Anders formed Polish 2nd Corps.

Kinokero
www.PolandW2.com