You got also some pictures about the production of the Panther Series?
I think the production statistics had been already metioned here, but no pictures had been shown up.
It would be interessting to see, because in late war they tried to change the production lines to make them similar as far as they could go, so that the Panther II could use more similar parts as the Königstiger?
That was the intentions but I think never really works because the differencs in weight of both designs.
The figure of manufactured Panther is 5508 in “Panther variants” by Jentz/doyle.
Those constructions on which the turrets had been fitted before they got adapted onto the tanks - had they been standardized?
Are there plans of them?
Ich versteh dich nich, I dont follow you, you mean If there was pantherstellungs with narrow turrets ?
No on this photo in my first post on this site e.g. - this Steel Construction on which the turret is fitted. Perhaps those construction had been standardized or did each fabric had it´s own construction?
That is simply a steel frame to put the turret after it had been finished in the factory, no need of standarization on that.
French soldier with some Panther KwK 42 cartigdes, the bullet was an Panzergranate 39/42, armor piercing capped high explosive-tracer.
The Panther was a very good tank, had excellent firepower, and very good hot rolled armor. But could not be produced quickly enough to meet the threats of the T-34, or the swarms of M-4 sherman tanks of the U.S. Germany for some reason, could not just “pick one,” and run with it,but chose to parse, and piecemeal their production capacity and limit their ability to field an adequate armored force capable of dealing with the conditions on the battlefields of western Europe, and later, Russia.
My vote is for the T-34, as it was well designed for its environment, had advanced armor,and automotive features. A side note, The Russian tank program was based on the designs of Walter Christie, an american who offered his “fast tank” designs to the U.S. Gov’t, but was turned away. The Russians took the time to listen…
My vote is for the T-34, as it was well designed for its environment, had advanced armor,and automotive features.
The T-34 is fine, but the advanced armor only work for 1940-41, in 1942-43 with the introduction of new Tanks and infantry AT weapons it was outdated.
I dont think the Panther was very good in 1941. In 1941 the T-34 was much better and thus gets my vote every time. For the Germans I think the Stug and PzIV should get the aclaim.
Well, there was no Panthers in 1941. In that year I agree that the best tank in the world was the T-34/76, but in 1943 was outdated by the latest german designs.
Against a shaped charge A.T. weapon, any tank of the second war was unprotected. The T-34, like the M-4 were produced in such numbers, that any technical superiority enjoyed by Germany’s tanks was negated. I cant speak for the T-34, but the M-4 was mechanically superior in meantime between failures, far more reliable than the German counterparts.
Yea, but this topic is not about what was the more numerous tank (i think that discussion would be iddle) but wich was the better.
the M-4 was mechanically superior in meantime between failures, far more reliable than the German counterparts.
Probably so, but the Sherman ws not much preciated by his crews, at list no in the ETO.
You are correct that it wasnt the most popular ride available, it had little protection to offer,and the early 75 mm gun lacked the velocity needed to get the 1st round hit/kill. so it needed to have lots of friends around to help out against German AFV’s which did have good weaponry, and very good armor(for the most part) But they had trouble in the automotive area. The primary attributes of a tank are the ability to move, shoot, and communicate. The T-34. and the M-4, did all three very well. If you cant get it where you need it, when you need it, the rest doesnt matter. -Raspenau-
Panzerknacker, I neglected to acknowledge your point about the Panther, It was a well thought our concept ,and design, and suffered its frailties mostly as a result of a hurried deployment. Decades ago, I was stationed at Ft. Knox Ky. and visited the shrine of American Armor, the Patton museum very often. there was one example of a Panther , unrestored, and even so in very good condition. It had little paint, or Zemmerite paste left on it, so the welds were exposed to view. I
spent a long time studying this tank,as we were allowed to go aboard, and the manufacturing processes were flawless. If a thing could be music, this was a symphony. It was the most popular exhibit at the museum. I believe it was later fully restored, and is operable under its own power. At the time I saw it, it was displayed in a small space, and had to have the tracks off in order to fit. Had it been fully De-bugged, and fielded in great numbers, it would have made a great difference. At least until shaped charge rounds became available to A.T. guns, and tanks. -Raspenau-
Indeed, your opinion is not unique, the Panther was probably the tank wich impressed the most to the Allied tankers in France 1944.
Some were put again in service against his former owners like this:
History
In the aftermath of the failed Arnhem offensive the British 6th Guards Tank Brigade was engaged in heavy fighting to gain control of the small Dutch village called Overloon. It was during these fierce battles that tankers of the 4th Armoured Battalion - Coldstream Guards, one of the 2 tank battalions in the brigade, entered a large barn, only to find a Panther tank of the PanzerAbteiling 2, Panzer Brigade 107. This Panther was in running order and quickly put to work in the staff units of the brigade. The use of this captured vehicle was a unique event, so it appears more than once in the official history of the brigade. (6)
After some adjustments were made to the appearance of the vehicle (more about that later) this Panther was used to help the artillery barrage on the Geijsteren castle, just north of Venlo, on the Meuse River. The tank was christened “Cuckoo”, which seems to be an appropriate name for such a strange “bird”
In the artillery bombardment on the castle, Cuckoo proved to be a worthy newcomer. After an infantry attack at the castle failed, the decision was made to bombard the castle with artillery. This barrage proved to be not very successful, as the relatively small target was hard to hit with artillery. The 75mm tank guns and 6-pounders were more accurate, but too light to do real impressive damage to the thick walls of the castle.
The Panther tank on the other hand did an outstanding job: “ The 95mms were a great success, but “Cuckoo”, [………], did best of all, hurling its shells through selected windows with unfailing precision.”
Later, during operation “Blackcock” (In an area to the south of Venlo) Cuckoo was deployed again, now to join in on an attack on the German town called Waldenrath. Cuckoo preformed very well again, it’s mobility was especially noticeable.The historian wrote; “The road conditions were abominable all day, but whereas the Churchill’s and the Crocodiles, with no ice bars, slid into ditches at every possible opportunity, “Cuckoo” the Panther, eight tons heavier, trundled merrily along with no difficulty at all
Nice Pantherturm pictures site:
http://ostpanzer.asty.ru/topics/tanks/panther/ostwallturm/images.html
Nice.
That is a weird one.
Does anybody know what city is ?
Looks like an 3.7cm Flak mounted on a Panther Ausf. D Chassis ( the Radiomans MG has not yet the Kugelblende)
I think this picture was taken somewhere in Poland (last picture the writing on the left side of the house - a typical ending for polish words. 
Actualy this is crazy! Where did you found it? 
Too bad i can´t speak spanish, but this is actually very interessting with the Flak 43!! 