I wonder if those reduced charge cartrigdes would cycle the slide in a 7,65 mm pistol, maybe was “hand operated” Thanks again for the pics.
Panzerknacker,
any idea why the Pressin gun was delivered with a box of primed unloaded cartidge cases (VAINAS). The primers are red laquered.
Loaded life ammo was produced, too.
Those are platzpatrone, blanks, it should said “Fogueo” instead “vainas”.
Thanks for the reply. Blanks make sence - for training purpose?
For that or for scaring the terrorist to death with the noise…:rolleyes:
No, for training only 
hahahah yes scaring them to death … how very nice :mrgreen:
Do you have some more ballistic and performance informations about the
ammunition?
The performace was poor, that was one of the causes of the lack of interest in this gun. Muzzle velocity 265 m/s, bullet weight 70 grains ( 1 grain = 0,0648 grams)
This is amazing, note those single shot shotguns with supressors !! The picture is taken in an argentine owned gunshop in France.
I think those are Zoli brand, not sure, picture extracted from:
http://www.cazaconaire.com.ar/foro/viewtopic.php?t=947&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=30
The attached photo is from a current British MoD publication - looks like suppressors/silencers may be going to make a comeback of sorts?
As you probably know the SA80 is not the first assault rifle in 5,56mm to be equipped with a supressor.
Comeback ? maybe but it was never completely gone
Indeedy, the interesting bit is that is a photo of a planned modification to the rifle released by the British Ministry of Defence. In other words, they are planning to introduce a suppressor to some form of general service. So far as I’m aware, nobody else has done something similar. There are plenty of specialist silenced SMGs around for special forces, but since 5.56mm is a supersonic round that is clearly not the intent of this version.
Well is a compromise evidently, to modify the 5,56x 45mm round to make subsonic gave away a lot of performance. Not to mention that the gas operated system stop working and you got a single shot “hand operated assault rifle”
However the supersonic “supressed” rifles still have some advantages.
The new can eliminated enough of the muzzle blast so that the location of
the shooter was undetectable to hostiles downrange, which greatly improved a shooter’s tactical advantage
and survivability. Given ideal vegetation and terrain, the muzzle blast from
an M16A1 was completely indistinguishable beyond 50 yards.
Only the sonic boom created by the 5.56mm projectile remained, which sounds something like the report of a short barreled .22 rifle. In the absence of a muzzle blast, the mammalian brain interprets
the origin of the gunshot as perpendicular to the pressure wave of
the ballistic crack striking the body. Combined with the sound of bullet impact, this phenomenon causes individuals to turn their attention 90 to 180 degrees away from the shooter. This is a [FONT=Times New Roman][FONT=Verdana]very good thing during an ambush or when a small force equipped with silencersmust cope with a larger force.[/FONT][/FONT]
Quote from “The Small Arms Review - Vol. 5 No. 8 May, 2002”
I have a sneaking suspicion that it might be something to do with health and safety - reducing the sound levels at the shooter. It also makes comms within the section work a lot better too…
Of course not! Hasn’t anyone seen “The Jerk?”
But I would think a silencer would deprive a small caliber weapon round its only real positive attribute. The high velocity…
These are suppressors, not silencers. In other words, they reduce the noise generated by the muzzle gases while having a minimal effect on the muzzle velocity. Silencers require a subsonic round, suppressors don’t.
I have a sneaking suspicion that it might be something to do with health and safety - reducing the sound levels at the shooter.
That was the original purpose behind the supressor, unfortunately this device has been historically linked to assasins,robbers and so, wrong image because very few criminals used it, and it is more often in the hand of Goverment agencies like army, special forces and police units. :rolleyes:
Video:
The Pistole Polizei Kurz (Walther PPK) with silencer.
Supressed MG-34 with finnish made silencers.
[FONT=Times New Roman][SIZE=3]MG-34 “twins” shot with different sounds in students’ shooting event in Lappeenranta - one with the usual loud tearing noise, the other with curious puffing sound reminding of a diesel engine throttled. These guns were among the most favoured weapons among the shooting participants and audience of the event. Reflex Suppressor R8MG replaces the original flash hider in seconds
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The best supressed small arm for me
Ruger 22
not realy small arms but…
:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen: