The M4 Sherman Tank

Hey Chevan,

Be positive too me all the time:D. He says those things cause he doest like me that much.
Im not a little nazi that attacks the forum, im not a stevey. You spelt recently incorrectly,sorry i had too mention the spelling mistake.
Why are you calling me Mr Aly j? Im not a MR. I dont call you guys mrs,ms,or miss.:confused:

That’s what exactly bothers me.
He don’t like you too much , but why?
I just ask him.( Nickdfresh):slight_smile:
My personal 2-years experience here prompts me that if Nick doesn’t like somebody - this is true sign:)
But probably he is just mistaking and you are a good lad indeed:)
I personaly wish nothing bad to you and WILL positive to you ALL the TIME( while you will be)

Im not a little nazi that attacks the forum, im not a stevey. You spelt recently incorrectly,sorry i had too mention the spelling mistake.

So you are not nazi , good new from me.
And thanks for you 've the corrected me.

Why are you calling me Mr Aly j? Im not a MR. I dont call you guys mrs,ms,or miss.:confused:

But how can i call the man in my first post to him, think yourself.
misus?

Hey Chevan,
Nickdfresh doest like me cause im not up too his standards about ww2.
He has not mistaking me for someone else.
Nothing bad will happend to me, only if i keep out of nickdfreash way.
Im not actually a lad. Im a girl.
I thought you called me a man cause you address me as a Mr. Mr means man.
Cheers.

A nice blond?
So why Nick doesn’t like lady?:slight_smile:
It should be such fascinating to learn Nick’s ww2 standards for …girls:)

I thought you called me a man cause you address me as a Mr. Mr means man.
Cheers.

Because i though you were a MAN:)
Sorry…

I don’t dislike “her” because she’s a girl. In fact, we’ve had some very good female posters that I wish would post more.

I think she’s a troll that is completely disingenuous and seeks to troll the forum, either through ignorance or through feigned stupidity…

Well where are those female posters?
I think RS and youreself scared the s**t out of those female posters.
I wouldet blame them for not comming back.
I am not a troll, im just not smart like you and RS are.
If i went to uni and got a degree like RS, i would be just as smart as you and RS are.
Any way, why would any one put a member as a mod if they been banned from another forum?
May be you should take a hard look at youreself Nickdfreash, to find out why you were banned.

But you are a nice girl , don’t you:)?
Why don’t you wish to try a learn a bit from smart adults?Instead of to irritate them?

Any way, why would any one put a member as a mod if they been banned from another forum?
May be you should take a hard look at youreself Nickdfreash, to find out why you were banned.

Damn ,Nick , what was that forum where you have been banned from?:slight_smile:
RothArmy maybe:);)?

As one of the people involved in selecting Nick and George for invitations to become new mods, I think I’m competent to answer that one. The reason is that we look at how someone behaves on this forum, rather than stalking them around the internet. You will often find mods on various forums (and RS* this is NOT an excuse for you to have a go here) who ban people for what I would regard as capricious reasons - for example if they are too good at arguing in support of a position that a mod dislikes, or if they simply irritate a mod by their presence. This is NOT a policy we follow here, save in exceptional circumstances.
Accordingly, we ignore past history in other forums when selecting mods, and go entirely on their posting history on this site (which must be comprehensive in quality, time and volume - so those of you who make 200 posts a day will NOT be getting an invitation from General Sandworm to become a mod as soon as you reach 2000 posts!),

No one “scared” anyone, and some do come back occasionally. They may not have the interest level in WWII that some here do, or are more interested in some of the narrow sociological aspects then than to the weapons and operations aspects. Or they may have had a specific interest to be addressed, so they aren’t regular posters as such but do post here occasionally.

I am not a troll, im just not smart like you and RS are.
If i went to uni and got a degree like RS, i would be just as smart as you and RS are.

One doesn’t need a uni degree to be smart (or knowledgeable rather, as that what we’re talking here), one just needs a little initiative, interest, and to be willing to do a little reading as I really didn’t learn that much about WWII at university. I doubt Rising Sun* did either. Above all, I think someone needs to have an actual interest in the war that goes beyond watching “Military Blunders” or “Dogfights” on the History Channel. And I’m not sure you even bother…

I think I’ve told you several times, and this had been mirrored by others besides the Mod staff and RS*, that you need to do a little (even online at Wiki) research before starting a thread and provide your own opinions. Otherwise you’re just spamming or creating dupe threads, but then again, that might be the whole purpose of your exercise…

Any way, why would any one put a member as a mod if they been banned from another forum?

May be you should take a hard look at youreself Nickdfreash, to find out why you were banned.

I was a Mod here before I was banned there, sugar. And perhaps that reflects poorly on their forum, not me. In any case, I’m, re-registered there and am allowed to post under a different username on the WWII topics. But that site, while having some very knowledgeable posters, is kind of lame anyways. I also occasionally post at a couple of other WWII sites, such as Otto’s forum, in which I was not banned but feel I’ve modded at two other boards besides this one, so, obviously I have some grasp at what I’m doing. And one of the reasons I think I was modded here was probably very similar to the reason I was banned at the board in question, because I stood up and debated, sometimes heatedly, people that I thought were knowingly and willfully (or just ignorantly) misrepresenting history for their own extremist and apologist aims…

I think stalking around the internet is actually a sign of either mental illness or of troll behaviour, and I’ve seen what some term “internet-weirdos” do it. I know this because I dealt with a lot of it at the Van Halen site I used to mod, including dozens of music industry “insiders” and people who used it as their sole social network rather than as a place to stick to the subject and communicate solely on that basis. And I’m pretty sure, at least to an extent, you’re the one misrepresenting yourself on the web, along with your “42-year old” Canadian teacher friend, not me. And that is the essence of trolling. :wink: I know, because I have actually trolled and have been banned for doing it (I’ve actually have been banned from a few boards such as at a U2 board, Sammy Hagar site, and a “Three Doors Down” board) a few years back. So I know very well what you’re doing, and have been far more tolerant of you than the pompous dummy that banned me. I guess the difference is that I sort of consider WWII to be sacred as millions perished in untold misery. And I also think a good troll involves wit and comic timing not, not just attention getting and stupidity. Something that is sorely lacking here…

Maybe you should tell us how you know all this anyways? I mean, that would be a good deal of research or prior knowledge on your part.

But, I kind of have a theory that involves you and Herman. That theory being that you’re a couple of kids (mid-teens probably) that know each other from another site, and decided to troll here in tandem. You probably IM each other too, since you’re always in each others’ wakes…And that we’re undergoing a resulting “mass-troll.” Only, it seems your idea of trolling is spelling words wrong and being what we used to call an “attention whore.” It’s kind of boring and it’s really getting old.

Regards,

Nickdfresh

Chevan, Yes im a quite nice shy girl, i wish i had more guts.

Hi PDF and Nickdfreash,
I know i can be a pain but i still love ww2, anyways if everyone was serious wouldet it be a bit boring?
I just think Nickdfreash that can you be a bit more gentle with me, i dont mean baby me, but if i say something stupid, why dont you say it in a nice way and i take more notice of what you are saying to me.
Like right now, you talking to me like im human and i respect what you a saying from you.
Pdf ,Dont worry i was not posting so many times so i can be mod, i know i never be a mod.
I will go and check out online wilki,when im not feeling lazy.
I hope you didt mean im a whore like the real thing did you?
Herman and i are not in each other wakes never been.
I like herman, and i never meet herman before i came on here.

Aly j

Nick I resent you implying Theories that have no FACTS. If you think so positively that I am in contact with Aly J, then go into my Private messages and see if I have ever PM’d her and conceived this web domination Theory that you have concocted . If you don’t have that ability then I give the Admin full permission to do this. For the last time, I do not know Aly J nor do I speak to her off the web just to annoy you, if that’s what you think. I like you. Personally I was a lot happier annoying you alone; I don’t need the extra help. As a moderator your neutrality appears bias when you accuse me of something which I am not. Then you accuse me of being in my mid-teens. Well, that is a compliment because I wish I was. I provide productive and interesting feedback to the majority of threads that I am able to participate in. I may add humour where it is befitting and may be perceived as jerky to some, but look at the response I get when I make fun of PDF’s Krugerand Molecular Theory. Don’t tell me that wasn’t funny…come on come on….anyways, why do you keep bringing my name into the web when you respond to Aly J. If you got a beef with her, talk to her without using my name and ruining my fine reputation. I have come along way since I joined and I have tried to be respectful to all, but when you keep dragging my name into threads and implying I am secretly talking to Aly J, because I have nothing better to do, them Troll on you, then maybe you have been reading to many Nazi novels. I don’t mean to be rude, but Please stop laying my name on the line with your feedback to Aly J. I personally like her because she speaks up for herself and expresses her democratic opinion , even if it is a tad too often…but that’s another story. Lastly, I think you guys get a kick out of dragging her through the mud, because the site is a bit dry at times and slow, and the bitch-slapping appears to lift the gravity of the seriousness. Yes this is a serious site, but a little humour doesn’t hurt. I can quote so many RS comments which are humorous. I bet if he made a joke of the Krugerand-rutterbager theory(what ever its called), that he’d get a less tense response than the one I did. Thank You for your time and sorry if my wording may appear a bit critical, but I trust my view is taken in stride.

  1. As it happens, I wasn’t actually thinking of you when I made that comment - we have had a few people in the past who thought that because they had a large number of posts that entitled them to be automatically made a mod.
  2. We also allow for the fact that people’s behaviour can change. We’ve been looking to increase the number of mods lately as General Sandworm and Firefly are both very busy, and two of the people given serious consideration have been banned from this site for a short period of time.

Yep, looks like they went through alright,(whistles in the wind)

Hmm, honestly I dont think so, a 30 mm shaped charge is really small for penetrating 50 or 60 mm side armor.
The one used by the M230 Apache gun is quoted with 25 mm penetration in RHA.

The M789 HEDP round for the M250 30mm cannon is estimated to have a penetration ability in excess of 50mm at up to 2,500 meters

The M789 HEDP round for the M250 30mm cannon is estimated to have a penetration ability in excess of 50mm at up to 2,500 meters

:mrgreen: You both were right

[SIZE=2]The cannon is supplied with 1,200 rounds of ammunition and has a maximum rate of fire of 650 rounds per second. Its 30 millimeter ammunition is compatible with the British Aden and French DEFA 30 millimeter cannon. The usual ammunition is the M789 High-Explosive Dual Purpose (HEDP) round (see below), which features an armor-piercing hollow charge with a fragmenting case. The HEDP round can penetrate 5 centimeters (2 inches) of rolled steel armor.

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http://www.tonyrogers.com/weapons/ah64_gun_firing.htm

Althought the cannons and cartrigdes in the Ah-56 are not the same as in the AH-64 the projectile does, I underestimate the power of the hollow charge :roll:

Oh ok then, Is RS going to be one.
If RS is choosing to be a mod, I would need a protection of some sort.
Rs will rip in to me in that case.

Moi?

I’ve been a very good boy in that area for a very long time. Although I think the forum is the poorer for it. :smiley:

You’re right, I didn’t learn much about WWII at uni.

As part of my arts degree I did a sub-major in history and pursued a couple of topics on WWI (food supply in Germany) and WWII (Hitler’s mind, as far as I can recall with my mind which is probably in far worse condition now than Hitler’s was in the Spring of 1945, and possibly even after he was dead :D). What I learnt I learnt mostly from my own research, and what I learnt from the uni course was that I had to research and support my arguments with evidence. There was no instruction in how to research or argue. I learnt to research and argue by being forced to defend my position.

And that, aly j, means that anyone who can read and think can teach themselves to research, especially in the internet age when Google reveals all to anyone, and that people who tolerate your vacuous posts in many threads are performing the same service for you for free that university teachers provide, which is forcing you to think, research and argue.

So stop whining about being a girl and not being smart (when in fact you are quite smart) and start researching and arguing to demonstrate or defend your opinions. Apart from anything else, you insult other women by hiding behind your claimed gender to excuse your stupidity.

No, I would treat you much as I have treated you, but with less latitude and tolerance than the mods have generously shown you so far because my bullshit and troll detectors are linked to an auto response system which you have already experienced.

You really don’t want that auto response system to be invoked if I was a mod, so start posting at the level of your concealed intelligence to stop giving me a reason to become a mod, which I have been asked to be before.

The adults on this site, including me, are incredibly forgiving to youngsters who create fantasy identities and post nonsense, and you are not past the point of rehabilitating yourself if you stop acting like a troll. So, do yourself and everyone else a favour and stop jerking us about with your fraudulent girly stupid identity.

RS, Im not lying about my identitie.Why would i create a fantasy Identitie.
Ok then RS, Tell me what sex ,age that you think i am.
Thats why i wanted protection cause i knew you’ll act in this kind of way.