The M4 Sherman Tank

[Rising_Sun]

@aly_j

RS, Im not lying about my identitie.Why would i create a fantasy Identitie.

I neither know nor care. I’m not a psychiatrist. But you probably need psychiatric help. Or just a solid boot up the arse from a grown up.

@aly_j

Ok then RS, Tell me what sex ,age that you think i am.

I neither know nor care. I’m not a psychic. But you need to work out what sex and age you are, and start behaving accordingly. If you can.

@aly_j

Thats why i wanted protection cause i knew you’ll act in this kind of way.

No, this is exactly what you wanted, pussy cat, so you could get a response and continue your increasingly unconvincing trolling and feigned girly stupid victimhood.

The only thing that hurts you, you attention-seeking little troll of furball effect on this site, more than being challenged is being ignored.

So it’s time to be ignored, because you have become tedious, repetitive, unconvincing and generally you have given 26 year old women, women of any age, Australian women, and Australians of every age and gender an undeservedly bad name.

Find someone else to play with.

Game over.

[ww11freak34]

The Medium Tank, M4 was the primary tank produced by the United States for its own use and the use of its allies during World War II. Production of the M4 medium tank exceeded 50,000 units and its chassis served as the basis for numerous other armored vehicles such as tank destroyers, tank retrievers, and self-propelled artillery. In the United Kingdom the M4 was dubbed the Sherman after Union General William Tecumseh Sherman, following the British practice of naming their American-built tanks after famous American Civil War generals. Subsequently the British name found its way into common use in the US. Following World War II the M4 medium tank was used by the US until the end of the Korean War. Many nations continued to use the tank in both training and combat roles into the late 20th century.

[flamethrowerguy]

@ww11freak34

The Medium Tank, M4 was the primary tank produced by the United States for its own use and the use of its allies during World War II. Production of the M4 medium tank exceeded 50,000 units and its chassis served as the basis for numerous other armored vehicles such as tank destroyers, tank retrievers, and self-propelled artillery. In the United Kingdom the M4 was dubbed the Sherman after Union General William Tecumseh Sherman, following the British practice of naming their American-built tanks after famous American Civil War generals. Subsequently the British name found its way into common use in the US. Following World War II the M4 medium tank was used by the US until the end of the Korean War. Many nations continued to use the tank in both training and combat roles into the late 20th century.

Very nicely copied and pasted from Wiki. At least you know how to copy & paste…

[Nickdfresh]

@ww11freak34

The Medium Tank, M4 was the primary tank produced by the United States for its own use and the use of its allies during World War II. Production of the M4 medium tank exceeded 50,000 units and its chassis served as the basis for numerous other armored vehicles such as tank destroyers, tank retrievers, and self-propelled artillery. In the United Kingdom the M4 was dubbed the Sherman after Union General William Tecumseh Sherman, following the British practice of naming their American-built tanks after famous American Civil War generals. Subsequently the British name found its way into common use in the US. Following World War II the M4 medium tank was used by the US until the end of the Korean War. Many nations continued to use the tank in both training and combat roles into the late 20th century.

You’re beginning to annoy me…

Next time you post here, have something original to contribute other than Wiki cut and pastes and stuff you don’t own, but googled pics for!

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Nick - see war room.

[Jim_Baker]

@Firefly

There were several versions of the Sherman in the allied inventory.

The Sherman 1 was first used in action in north Africa by the brits, it had the edge on Rommels panzers, was more vesatile and for the first time in allied armies packed a good punch while being survivable and very manouverable.

The Sherman was constantly upgraded and by the time it reached Normandy appeared as the Sherman 76 in the US army, the 76 while still not able to defeat a Panther/Tiger head on at range could defeat it closer in. A specially modified version was called the Sherman Jumbo, this had a lot of extra plate added to it and was quite formidable, there are numerous accounts of the Jumbo taking frontal hits from Panther/Tiger and surviving. Although there were only a couple of hundred Mods carried out.

The Brits did a Mod that put the most effective allied AT gun, the 17 pounder into the Sherman, thus creating the most effective allied tank of ww2, the Sherman Firefly. To carry out this Mod the gun had to be revolved round 90 degrees so that it basically lay on its side. This meant that the crew was reduced to 4 from 5 men and the gunner had to load left handed. For normandy each tank platoon would consist of 1 Firefly and 3 normal Sherman. The job of the normal Shermans was to distract the German armour long enough for the Firefly to engage the enemy. by the end of the war there was enough production to equip every sherman unit with Fireflies.

Another little known fact was that all versions of the Sherman had a gun stabiliser, making it much more effective on the move, unlike the Axis or even soviet vehicles. It was also extremely reliable and easy to maintain compared to the complicated Axis vehicles.

This made it a formidable weapon as there were always lots available as opposed to the Axis vehicles which were so complicated that they broke a lot. It was also built in more numbers than any other tank in ww2 and in my opinion the equal or better of a T-34 85.

A much maligned vehicle, undeservedly so.

Have a look:

http://www.britannica.com/normandy/week3/sherman01.html?ref=news0604nmview

Thank you Sir for a reasonable assessment. The Sherman was a successful medium design, and very effective when manned by well trained crews.

[gojulas]

Here is a picture and info of my favourite Sherman. The M4A3E2 Jumbo Assault Tank

[Nickdfresh]

A nice little site with some pics and info on the “Easy 8” Sherman…

http://www.geocities.com/Pentagon/Quarters/1975/m4a3e8.htm

[texag57]

“Ronson” was another name for the Sherman. Taken from the name of the Ronson cigarette lighter that was supposed to light the first time you “thumbed” it.

[Deaf_Smith]

http://milveh.tripod.com/Pictures/wwiivehicles/jumbo/

Interesting pictures!

http://www.toadmanstankpictures.com/cobra_king.htm

And more!

http://www.flickr.com/photos/phima/4238956142/

And in the book, US tank and tank destroyer battalions in the ETO 1944-45 By Steven J. Zaloga, he says the front armor stopped 88mm hits at ‘typical’ combat ranges (page 32.)

Sure could have used alot more of them. But I bet that extra armor came at a price.

Deaf

[tankgeezer]

I was stationed at Ferris Barracks in the early 70’s,Its in the town of Erlangen Germany, not too far from Nurnberg, and Cobra King was on display just inside of Gate #1 and had our unit crest painted on it and a brass plaque describing its role in the attack on Bastogne. It was later moved to the parade field of my Battalion (3/37th armored part of the 1st armor division.) where (I’m guessing) it remained until the post was closed.
The Commander’s hatch was not sealed, so we looked inside, and it was all fried, we figured from being hit. There was no engine either. I’m glad it was saved, and is being restored.

[texag57]

[SIZE=“6”][SIZE=“5”][COLOR=“DarkRed”]I hope they do get it restored soon. When I was a cadet at Texas A&M in the 1950’s, and was in an armored unit. We got to drive a Sherman, and I learned that day a greater appreciation for those WWII tankers. It was quite a job just to drive one, but we all had a great time.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/SIZE]

[tankgeezer]

Well, considering its condition when I was there, it will need a complete reworking, lots of missing stuff, and alot of the remaining stuff was toasted pretty well. It also has very noticeable exterior damage to the right front hull, and here and there on the turret from bullet strikes etc. nothing major, but they may want to preserve those spots.I’ll look in my files, (thats a large bag full of misc. photos in a back closet) I should have several pics of it, maybe one of the interior. I’ll post what I find…

[Uyraell]

Thank you for the post, TG, very interesting to see.

Kind Regards, Uyraell.

[tankgeezer]

I talked to someone from the Patton museum today, they are expecting Cobra King to be on display in about a year. The Museum will be moving to Ft. Benning Ga. next year, or 2012 depending on when the new facility is completed. I hope that more of the collection will be on display in the new place.

[Uyraell]

TG, I share your hope regarding the collection.
I just hope it isn’t left out to rot in all weathers.

Thank you my friend, for the update on Cobra King.

Kindest Regards, Uyraell.

[tankgeezer]

Here is a link to the Cobra King restoration project, one of the restoration crew posted this, and some others…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbn_cffqfoY

[tankgeezer]

Here is some video of Cobra King since the work began. they have gotten alot of work done. Since I have some history with this tank, the team leader very kindly, and graciously allowed a visit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BQ_XbuNPNrU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU47tQ7J25Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YtrhUm3RKo

[tankgeezer]

While I was visiting Cobra King, I spent some time talking to the people working on it, and they are changing the main gun back to the 75mm configuration it was built with… The later conversion to 76.2 mm was done in the field, and involved little more than exchanging the gun tubes. Something Military that is simple?? I am awestruck…

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@tankgeezer

Something Military that is simple?? I am awestruck…

The US military-industrial complex during WW2 were absolute geniuses when it came to standardising parts to aid mass production (in this case making the updated gun fit in the same mount means that they didn’t have to modify the turret and so there was no disruption to the assembly line - the ease of changing it in the field is just serendipity). Sadly after WW2 Deming and his ideas were ignored by US industry, but rapidly taken up in Japan - with the result that we now think of many of the industrial ideas he pioneered as being Japanese in origin.