The Tiger tank

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47207/thread/1199370653/Rare+Tiger+I+pic

Very good thanks for the link :cool:

Thanks Sergej, but why use gas power to make electrical power to turn the tracks? Why not hook the gas motors directly to the axles?

More or less the same wrote by Librarian.
Teorically should save the weight of the clutch and transmition gears mechanism, and to provide a easier and more direct way to translate the power to the drive sprockets, however with the electric engine tech of that time the Siemens motors consumed a lot of copper and the generator consumed a lot of petrol, so the fuel consumption of the Tiger-Porsche was bigger than the Henschel Porsche, and the weight remain the same.

The electric drive was also used by some battleships of the US navy in the 1920s and is the standar power train in all the locomotives since 1950s.

My mind just imploded; that is tonnes of knowledge… :wink: Thanks though.

And thanks PK, that was a little easier to understand.

No problem, speaking from a merely technical point of view the Porsche design was brilliant, but more suitable for a peace time truck than a wartime tank, the Porsche 101 engines saved even the radiator…because they were air cooled by a fan conected to the crankshaft.

Just to mention others Porsche design were air cooled as well like the Volkswagen and the Porsche 911, and you cant say those types were not succesful :wink:

hi Panzerknacker,

have you got any idea about my previous question about the rear hatch configuration of the tiger p befehlswagen used by the Heers Schwere Panzerjager Ablteilung 653 in the Stab??

two pistol port or pistol port and hatch??

keep up the good work.

I can post some photos of that vehicles in test grounds before being delivered, sorry I have no written details of that.

Thanks Mate

the dragon models provides the side hatch and the two pistols ports for the earlier model

they must have used a mid ranged tiger turret with the hatch, drum cupola, and pistol port

thanks again

After some research the 50 Porsche turrets were allocated to only 3 units:

  • Panzer Lehr, 316 FKL Abt.: 5 King Tiger II PT, they defended Chateaudun from 15/8 until 18/8 1944: all 5 were lost.

  • 503 Schw.Pz.Abt. 1Kp: 12 King Tiger II PT. They were send to Normandy at the end of july (many pictures of KT in Wood serviced by British POW’s). Defended the “central sector” around Mt Pincon. The last of the 12 lost near Vimoutiers. None reached the Seine!

  • 503 Schw.Pz.Abt. 3Kp: 12 King Tiger II PT. 2 Left behind at Maily le Camp (many pictures taken here) (later moved as ONLY 2 Porsche Turret tigers to the Easfront, Hungary).
    9 reached Paris around fall of Falaise and later moved to area of Beauvais along with 2 Henschel Tiger II’s in the same Kp. 1 Tiger was shot off the train left behind en route to Paris. None survived the retreat out of France.

  • 506 Schw.Pz.Abt. Oosterbeek & Arnhem. Final 21 Tiger II’s with Porsche turret allocated to this unit. First loss at Oosterbeek. Later retreated to Aachen area and in December 1944 used in attack against Bastogne.
    Ended war in Ruhr Pocket along with 512 Jagdtiger Abt.

i would gp for the tiger 1 becuse it had a good and good armourone tiger tank took 173 allied shells and still made it nback to base. the tiger 2 was huge it was super slow.

Gearbox: Maybach OLVAR EG 40 12 16 B (8 forward and 4 reverse)
Radio: FuG 5, Befehlswagen (command tank) version: FuG 8 (Sd. Kfz. 267), FuG 7 (Sd. Kfz. 268)
Ammunition: 88 mm — 80 rounds (Porsche turret), 86 rounds (Henschel turret), 7.92mm — up to 5,850 rounds
Gun Sight: Turmzielfernrohr 9d (TZF 9d), early on the TZF 9b
Armor layout: (all angles from horizontal)
Hull front, lower: 100 mm @ 40°; upper: 150 mm @ 40°
Hull side, lower: 80 mm @ 90°; upper: 80 mm @ 65°
Hull rear: 80 mm @ 60°
Hull top: 40 mm @ 90°
Hull bottom: 40 mm @ 90° (front), 25 mm @ 90° (rear)
Turret front: 180 mm @ 80° (Porsche turret: 60–110 mm, rounded)
Turret side: 80 mm @ 69° (Porsche turret: 80 mm @ 60°)
Turret rear: 80 mm @ 70° (Porsche turret: 80 mm @ 60°)
Turret top: 44 mm @ 0–10° (Porsche turret: 40 mm @ 0–12°)

i thinkthe tiger was tanks of world war 2

Photos…

Those are from Saumur.

Very true, Nealey everything German jurying ww2 1939- 1944 is well famous.
Why more famous then the Allies?

The Tiger thank even wen I see an old move or am image of it I get chills all over my body…the Tiger was in my opinion the graitest tank of ww2 the ordenary Tiger and the King Tiger…:x:X…I love all of them even the panther and panzer …Germans knew haw to create a tank…

Some nasty pictures, penetrations of the british 6 pounders AT gun ( 57mm) in captured Tiger 1 side armor, the range was 100 meters.

Inside view, one shot caused armor breackage but did not penetrate.

Afrika Korps 1941 ( Tiger ? )

Nope! Panzer Mark IV…

http://www.ww2incolor.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4588

This is neither the first nor the last time that a Panzer IV is mistaken for a Tiger, that’s a quite common blunder. Same goes for the Panther and the Tiger II.

P.K. the penetration test pics, are something to behold. The 57 mm gun was a good one indeed, it would take some fortitude to remain with the gun for a 100 m shot though,