Which you think was the worst operation of the Allied forces .

Operation market garden put the cherry on the cake for me when it came with some of the worst.

A few more figures, refuting your 900,000 Axis deaths
on Eastern front figure.

Seeing a few of your posts on the Hitler insane thread, this will be the last time I answer obvious troll drivel.

Died on the Eastern front.
Germans only.

June 1941 25.000
July 1941 63.099
Aug 1941 46.066
Sep 1941 51.033
Oct 1941 41.099
Nov 1941 36.000
Dec 1941 40.198
Total 1941 302.495 (11,0%)

Jan 1942 48.165
Feb 1942 44.099
Mar 1942 44.132
Apr 1942 23.066
May 1942 38.099
June 1942 29.033
July 1942 38.066
Aug 1942 62.165
Sep 1942 45.033
Oct 1942 25.000
Nov 1942 31.198
Dec 1942 78.759
Total 1942 506.815 (18,4%)

Jan 1943 180.310
Feb 1943 68.330
Mar 1943 46.066
Apr 1943 16.000
May 1943 19.066
June 1943 13.066
July 1943 71.231
Aug 1943 59.198
Sep 1943 57.429
Oct 1943 53.264
Nov 1943 67.363
Dec 1943 49.330
Total 1943 700.653 (25,6%)

Jan 1944 70.330
Feb 1944 64.429
Mar 1944 93.660
Apr 1944 73.264
May 1944 48.363
June 1944 142.079
July 1944 169.881
Aug 1944 277.465
Sep 1944 70.561
Oct 1944 92.528
Nov 1944 45.363
Dec 1944 85.253
Total 1944 1.232.946 (45,0%)

Total 2.742.909

Losses per theater

Theater Dead %
Africa 16.066 0,3
Balkans 103.693 1,9
North 30.165 0,6
West 339.957 6,4
Italy 150.660 2,8
Eastern Front 2.742.909 51,6 %
(- Dec 1944)
Germany (1945) 1.230.045 23,1 %
Various 245.561 4,6 %
Total 4.859.056

POWs held by Dead % % of number imprisoned
France 34.033 0,6 3,6
UK 21.033 0,4 0,5
US 22.000 0,4 0,7
USSR 363.343 6,8 11,8
Yugoslavia 11.000 0,2 5,8
Various 8.066 0,2 4,7
Total deaths among POW 459.475

Total deaths 5.318.531
Source: “Deutsche militärische Verluste im Zweiten Weltkrieg” by Rüdiger Overmans

Well, I do not want to reveal anything forehand… So you would have to read all of it if you want to find out… :slight_smile:

Here we go again :rolleyes:

The numbers cited above for German fatalities on the eastern front sound too high. A count of German casualties up to the end of December 1944 lists less total combat deaths as well under 2,700,000.

Don’t think there will ever be a definitive number for German or Soviet casualties, but the median number for Germany is 3.5 million military dead.
If the figures for up to 80% of German casualties on the Eastern front are correct, it puts Overmans figures from the the German Armed Forces Military History Research Office fairly close.
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Some of the higher estimates …

Keegan 4,000,000 Total.
Kinder 4,000,000
Urlanis 4,500,000
Eckhardt 4,750,000

Lower estimates…

Encarta 3,500,000
Britanica 3,500,000
Ellis 3,250,000
Comptons 3,250,000
Harper Collins 2,850,000

MEDIAN 3,500,000

For German civilians…

MEDIAN 5,500,000

It’s the same for the Soviets…

From Comptons 6,750,000
Richard Overy, Russia’s War (1997);
Total Dead: 8,668,400
Ellis: 11,000,000
Britannica: 11,000,000

to Sokolov’s new calculations: an eye popping 26.4M

Krivosheev 9,500,000 is very detailed.

MEDIAN 10 million.

For Soviet civilians…

MEDIAN 20 million.

Being overtly aggressive in your posts and apparently deliberately trolling in others garners no favours here. Neither does it engender longevity here.

In short. Shape up or ship out. A good debate is healthy and within this a good bit of banter is to be expected.

What your doing is neither banter nor welcome here.

Check your PMs…