Infantry antitank weapons.

I was just looking for a second ( even a third) opinion, thanks.

PTRD and PTRS weren’t the first soviet AT rifle. The first was the 14.5-mm AT rifle of Rukavishnikov (1939)

I found another images of this, but I think it was actually 12,7mm, (12,7x108)

Is this a Rukavishnikov ??

The Text read Sowetskoe PTR Schcholochowa –

Schcholochowa ??, then we have another desing in hands.

Thanks for the translation :wink:

yea my thought is place the molitov cocktail in a window at a higher height than the tank so u can at least hit the commanders capula or the commander but again the commander wouldnt stick his head out like that in an urban area. but if you hit the top of the tank the gasoline would at least spread on the surrounding infantry.

A nice site for the PTRD and PTRS you can find here

http://www.antitank.co.uk/russian1.htm

Thanks for the link, here you got another. :cool:

http://tecnicamilitar.forum.ijijiji.com/tema-271-tecnicamilitar.html

Looking at this pic, The tactic of shooting moving tracks is a bit daft. They are moving, and the tracks are solid metal.

It would make more sense shooting from the side, on to one of the roller wheels which, ironically would be more damageable.

The hole on the left doesn’t look big enough, it may be a lucky shot from rifle, or maybe a piece of shrapnel.

The holes on the left may have been from a AT gun. Two fired at the same time?

The front end of the tank looks a little smashed up, and there is another AT gun hole roughly 1/3 right on the brest plate.

Few interesting sites.

http://www.geocities.com/Augusta/8172/panzerfaust6.htm

http://www.smallarmsreview.com/pdf/antitank.pdf

http://www.bayonetstrength.150m.com/Weapons/infantryantitank/infantry_anti_tank_weapons.htm

Next I post information about experimental antitank rifles developed in 1938-45, unfortunately I owe the translation, cant handle the cyrilic.

Thanks Lothar for this material ¡¡

to be continued…

Hi,

I was wondering, how do the Russians defeat the German tanks? Are they limited to using only AT rifles? Were they no rocketry weapons like Bazookas or Panzerschrecks? As far as I know, the Russian doctrines about anti-tanks rely heavily on terrain and artillery, and a wee bit of camo’d towed AT guns about.

A little seach before open new topics usually helps.

I am not sure if this image is about russian soldiers, but the weapons seems to be an improvisated “geballte ladung” with rpg-33 hand grenades of russian origin.

I don’t think they are Russian Soldiers Panzer, the uniforms are slighly off, and they are armed with a Mauser 98 variant not Mosin-Nagants.

My guess is that they’re from one of the Baltic states.

Yeap, they looked like polish or czech variant of the german rifle, maybe some they are some kind of partisans.

To that the russian had some very effective hollow charge handgrenades.

http://www.inert-ord.net/russ02i/index.html

And AT rifle grenades where used. To that the russians had the ampullomet.

A cup rifle discharger for Molotov cocktails.

And AT rifle grenades where used. To that the russians had the ampullomet.

A cup rifle discharger for Molotov cocktails.

That remember me this, I was looking some old documentry about Stalingrad the other day and in some film were depicted the russian infantry carring something like a bazooka but firing form the ground and a heavier calibre, I dont know if that was a molotov trohwer or some grenade discharger.

Yes I saw exactly that film some years ago and remember I was wondering what the hell they shoot there.
May be it is a captured Panzerschreck… but Iam not sure that these weapon made it to Stalingrad. may be the scene isnt Stalingrad but Budapest or even Berlin. As far as I know the russian didnt have a Panzerschreck or Panzerfaust. It is possible that some Bazookas go to Russia by LendLease.

No, definately there was no panzerschrecks in Stalingrad, it was introduced in mid 1943.

The Russians did a lot of work on recoilless guns in the 1930s. They were probably using one of those.

It could be this artifact, even the shape is not the same.http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/6557/nuevo2ml0.jpg