This link may help you, the argentine Mirages claimed an aditional Sea Harrier,and a Wasp helicopter shot down by Pucaras to this list , the Harrier remain uncomfirmed because the guncam went down when the aircraft was shot down latter. The argentines destroyed 6 ships and several others damaged.
http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Falklands/brit-aircraftlosses.htm
http://www.britains-smallwars.com/Falklands/argentine-aircraftlosses.html
Pucara profile:
I wasn’t aware of any Harriers being lost to enemy fighters. Do you believe this to be true?
It could be, ltn Donadille from VIth Air Brigade (Mirage V ) claimed one Sea Harrier damaged by defa 30 mm gunfire.
I used to know which Harrier was lost where and when, but I haven’t studied this for a long, long time. It could be that a Harrier reported as being lost to ground fire might have been hit by a fighter, but then the pilot would have had to have been killed for it not to have been reported. There were Harriers damaged by canon fire, but they weren’t downed, and it was usually triple A.
It could, i see a pic of a british pilot looking a hole in his Sea Harrier tail, but those were produced by the smaller Reinhmetall 20 mm AAA, the Defa carried twice explosive charge than that. btw The date was 1th may.
Well i have to add guys as we have already learn it from the Korean war section is one hand to claiming to hit but the other hand to be REALLY shot down. There a lot of cases in the wars when the damaged aircraft was able to come back to the base.
But anyway thanks Panzerknacker for the links.
Yeah, he said of it: “…scared me fartless!” 
Well i have to add guys as we have already learn it from the Korean war section is one hand to claiming to hit but the other hand to be REALLY shot down. There a lot of cases in the wars when the damaged aircraft was able to come back to the base.
Well , the killing performances of the 12,7 mm MG in F-86…
compared with the heavy 30 mm ammo…
are not the same, just look at this guncam of a sudafrican Mirage F1 destroying Mig 21 with cannon fire, the same as Mirage V.
…but yes, I admit that there is still a chance to the Sea Harrier to survive, every depent on bullet placement.
Leutenant of the 601 army commando batallion explaining the shoot down of Jeff Glovers Harrier GR-3, date 21th may.
Too bad that few people undestand spanish, the languaje of the soldier seems of one Oxford educated student :rolleyes:
25 years ago, 1th May, the first air combat over the Malvinas/Falklands:
By the afternoon a group of three IAI Mirage V “Daggers”, armed with three bombs each, attacked a squad of a destroyer and two frigates (the Glamorgan, the Alacrity and the Arrow). At least one ship was reached by a bomb, and the Daggers returned to the continent.
One of the most significatives was the encounter between a couple of Mirages IIIEA wich were giving superior cover to the attack aircraft and a CAP of Sea Harriers.
The argentine aicraft belong to the VII Brigada Aerea and were manned by Capt. Garcia Cuerva and Lt. Carlos Perona in their second mission of the day. The two jets approached the airspace around Task Force 317, which was sailing to the Falklands to retake them from occupying Argentine forces. Sea Harriers were launched to intercept the Mirage fighters. The Mirages fired first at about five miles distance, but their missiles failed to lock on to their targets.
Turning to the left the Mirage jets soon found the two Harriers on their tails. Barton fell in behind Perona and Thomas took a bead on the jet flown by Cuerva. Firing their Sidewinder, air-to-air, missiles, the Harrier pilots got a hit on Peronas Mirage. Perona ejected from his aircraft and came down in shallow water near West Falkland Island.
Cuervas Mirage was damaged by the missile fired by Thomas, and he attempted to fly his damaged aircraft back to his base , Cuervas expended their last 30 mm ammo over the HMS Hermes carrier wich was in the strait. In the final aproach to the Pt argentino airbase a electrical failure (obviously caused by combat damage) made a shorcut and it unleash a Magic missile, unfortunately this action confused the AAA gunners wich took the MIII as a enemy aircraft and they shoot it down.
Images from:
Exequiel Martínez
www.AviationArt.com.ar
NO Sea Harriers were lost in Air to Air combat.
There may have been damaged and were engagments but NO losses.
Not too sure on the helis, will have to check.
In the final aproach to the Pt argentino airbase a electrical failure (obviously caused by combat damage) made a shorcut and it unleash a Magic missile, unfortunately this action confused the AAA gunners wich took the MIII as a enemy aircraft and they shoot it down.
Bummer.
It may not have been a mistake on the AAA gunners behalf. Making a short cut that takes you over AD assets is not to be taken lightly. Whilst staying in the “air corridor” to your base will keep you save, the short cut mentioned may well have taken him over an AD sector that was at “Weapons Free”.
28.05 one Scout was shoot down by Puccara
Bummer.
It may not have been a mistake on the AAA gunners behalf. Making a short cut that takes you over AD assets is not to be taken lightly. Whilst staying in the “air corridor” to your base will keep you save, the short cut mentioned may well have taken him over an AD sector that was at “Weapons Free”.
No it was like I describe before, the gunners were already adverted, but the Magic missile confused the defenders.
Attack against the HMS Antelope, 23th may 1982:
In this date Argentine Air Force Escuadron III Grupo 5 A-4B and Argentine Navy Third Escuadrilla A-4Q Skyhawks attacked the type 21 Amazon class frigate, the HMS Antelope. During the attack A-4Q/B piloted by Captain P. Carballo was inverted by an exploding missile but damaged it manage to return the mainland.
Damage on Carballo s A-4.
A Group 5 Skyhawk piloted by 1st leutenat L.Guadagnini was hit by 20mm cannon in the moment he was dropping his bomb. He manage to hit the Antelope with the 500 kilograms weapon but crashed against an radar mast.
Another Skyhawk piloted by ensign H. Gómez dropped a bomb on HMS Antelope but the bomb didn’t explode.
The Argentine attacks scored multiple bomb hits on Antelope causing serious damage and fires. The still afloat Antelope was forced from combat. During the night, while attempting to disarm an un-exploded bomb, the bomb exploded opening Antelope’s hull and cutting the ship in half. HMS Antelope sank in the morning of the day 24th…
A picture of Luciano Guadagnini from 5th Air Brigade killed in action 23-5-1982.
Perversely the british tabloid “The sun” published a cover with the title “Argie suicide attack pilots” in relation with the death of this pilot.
The Sun has never been and will never be a “quality” paper. It often uses sensationalism to get sales.
The headline may well have been explained out in the article with, for example a hint that his attack was suicidal rather than the more obvious link to the kamikaze.
Pure malice in my opinion…but what I know.
Operation Black Buck:
The Vulcan was designed as one of the Royal Air Forces’ Triumverate of strategic bombers known as the V-Force. A huge delta-winged aircraft, it was capable of carrying the Blue Steel stand off nuclear missile, and during its career served in the Strategic Bomber role, before converting to the low-level bomber role and finally to the tanker role in its last few years.
The Vulcan’s most well-known operation in the RAF, were the 8,000 mile bombing trips against the Argentine held Falkland Islands in 1982. These were the Black Buck missions. Some Vulcans were equipped with wings pylons to carry the American supplied Shrike anti-radar missile, and plans for the aircraft to carry the Skybolt were abandoned. The last Vulcan was retired from service in March 1984. None of the Vulcan raids actually destroyed Stanley runway, nor did they deny the Argentines using the runway. Craters show in the image below were in fact heaps of earth placed there by the Argentines to make it look as though the runway was damaged. What the Black Raids did did do, was to discourage the Argentine Air Force from keeping fast attack aircraft stationed at Stanley.
Three Vulcans were deployed to Wideawake airfield on Ascension Island, of which two flew Black Buck raids against the Falkland Islands. Eleven Victor tankers, including a standby aircraft were required to refuel the Vulcans before and after their attacks on the Falklands. The attacking Vulcan was refuelled five times on the outward journey and once on the return journey. These raids, although representing only a small part of the effort directed against the Argentines’ on the Falklands, also graphically demonstrated RAF Strike Command’s ability to strike the Argentine homeland if it had been necessary. These raids also forced the Argentine Air Force to withdraw their Mirage II fighters to stand defense over the mainland instead of engaging the Royal Navy and RAF Sea Harriers over the Falklands.
The Vulcans were captained by Squadron Leader Neil McDougall, Squadron Leader John Reeve and Flight Lieutenant Martin Withers. Black Buck One: 30th April and Black Buck Two: 4th May
Bombing raids on the Port Stanley airfield, The Attacking Vulcan carried 21 1,000lb bombs, and the attacking aircraft were backed up by another Vulcan on standby in case of problems.
Black Buck Three: 31st May and Black Buck Four: 3rd June
Missile strikes against Argentine Skyguard radar on the Falklands using American supplied Shrike Anti-Radar missiles on hastily improvised underwing pylons. During the 3rd June mission, the Vulcan sustained damage to its air refuelling probe and was forced to land at Rio de Janeiro in Brazil, where the aircraft was impounded until the 11th June, and the remaining Shrike missile was confiscated, This Vulcan was captained by Squadron Leader Neil McDougall.
Black Buck Five: 12th June
The final Black Buck mission was against Argentine troop positions close to Port Stanley using 1,000lb bombs.
The Shrike Missile
The Raytheon Shrike Anti-radar missile was carried by the Vulcans in Black Buck missions Three and Four, to engage and destroy Argentine Skyguards radar’s. These missile require an active radar to target, and if the radar is switched off, lose their lock.
For more detail in this extremely long range bombing attack go to:
Many serving British soldiers are not particularly enamoured by the Sun aka The Forces Favourite etc.
I am surprised that Argentina doesn’t regard the Black Buck raid as a war crime, given that they have a record of crying foul against any British operation that was succesful and did them damage.
Yes, there’s only ever two good things in The Sun…
…and they’re always on Page Three.
