I'm hoping you're a wind-up because seriously no-one, and I mean no-one other than a shaven headed, knuckle dragging neo-nazi thinks Hitler had any good points.
You are hopeless case, my dear Goy. You will be fine slave one day.
Whilst considering how better off the Germans were under Hitler, why don't we consider how worse off every other bugger was, the Austrians, Czechs, French, Poles etc etc now they had a REALLY fun time as part of Hitler's 3rd Reich paradise.
do explain, will you:
- did Germany declared war on France or other way around ?
- Did Hitler want to negotiate borders with Poland on terms of public plebiscite or not ?
Austrians lived same as Germans. Invasion of Czechoslovakia is aggression without any legal ground. Much as Iraq in 2003…
And then there’s this one
'2. I don’t know why somebody would want to portray him as a greatest man ever.
Yes and don’t forget this one:
He was genocidal maniac. Emm who wrote that I wonder ? Maybe somebody who is not trained to get diarrhea from mentioning AH but rather tries to see all shades of grey.
Wow, you've looked up Wikipedia and read the definition. Congratulations.
No, worse. I had to learn it !!!
The money spent on rearmament was money taken from somewhere else - either through taxation (removing it from the private sector), borrowing (requiring repayment with interest in future) or printing money (devaluing the existing money supply and increasing the likelihood of inflation). All three cause problems for the economy, particularly the former.
Congratulations dear. Your first attempt at economics. Did you see part about Germans don’t minding having less VW cars and more tanks ?
The problem with military spending is that you are taking resources away from something that could be used in future to make more money
This I have written, you don’t need binoculars yet do you my dear ?
The German rearmament was largely funded with deficit spending, thus it gave a short term boost to the economy as predicted by Keynes
All correct
However, because what they spent the money on by and large was unproductive (military equipment, etc.) after a while they ran out of money to borrow and, having not improved the productivity of the economy in the process, had no real chance of getting more
Wrong, I’ll post figures from Wages of destruction. Local government spending was reduced and civilian services were reduced for sake of military expense.
Not only does this violate the laws of Economics, this violates the laws of physics. You are suggesting that a discrete unit - the German economy - can perpetually output weapons for a smaller input than output.
Part of outputs for necessary insputs outside Germany. Please view trade agreement with Russia to better illuminate your horizons.
For the financial year 1938-39, government spending in Germany was 33.5% of GDP, of which 46% went on rearmament. In other words, every year 15% of the value of the economy was being taken out of it and pretty much buried in a hole in the ground.
- Term “Rearmament” does not mean 15% of GDP it could well be less as it was in previous years. Here you took excesive example
- Did you mention that 15% included large stocks of raw material from Russia ie. it was not hole in the ground and obviously Germans did not mind that or to say it otherwise if it meant return of Western Prussia they were willing to accept it ?
The Nazis didn’t even pretend to fund this in the long term - from about 1933 onwards government spending exceeded income by about 50%. If you think that’s a sustainable way to run an economy
I don’t and never said that 50% is sustainable.
Exports are pretty much irrelevant here - you’ve got to export something to pay for your imports, and if you’re only making military equipment then that’s what you’ve got to export.
Yes that pretty much summarizes it. And Nazis did not produce only military equipment with imports bu civilian stuff too. Do look at trade agreement with Russia to see what other side really wanted and then comment on what is good and what is not good.
From 1929-38, German productivity (i.e. the economic value of each hour worked - this is the foundation of all true economic growth as opposed to Keynesian stimulus) grew by about 1.3% per year.
Maybe, please quote your source. But you fail to take into account 2 things:
1 ) How many unemployed were employed under Nazis as additional labour inputs for overall economic growth ie. amount of goods and services delivered
2) what about capital, do you suggest it is by mispooling of scarce capital that Germany suddenly became largest economy in Europe
German economy was being fuelled by deficit spending in this period
Do tell me who bought the deficit. Somebody has to buy deficit or it resutls in hiper inflation. But somehow I don’t remember hyperinflation in that period but rather in democratic period of Weimar Republic.
China has achieved it's growth by adopting the economic freedoms of the West without their political freedoms. Other countries have done the same in the past (notably South Korea, Taiwan, Singapore and Chile). This works - for a while - but there are two problems with it.
1) When the economic growth stops, the people hold the government fully responsible and are frequently quite violent about it.
2) Economic freedom brings the wish for political freedom. Revolutions aren't led by those with nothing, but those who have something and want more.
Well on a good day I could agree with this.
And some people say there was nothing wrong with Hitler!
I wonder who might that be, probably somebody who didn’t write he was genocidal maniac.
But, I’m not sure what you mean when you say “(he) was what the Allies wanted to be by simply couldn’t?”
Do you know of any ally tank crew obliterating 150 Axis tanks ?
By all means, post it!
tomorrow
Had it not been for Hitler US would be in recession looong time.
Military spending got USA out of recession with many unemployed ending up in war and with other Allies paying for USA imports while they could.
You do realize that without the planning of 1941, there aren't 38K planes in 1944, right?
Maybe some less. Do tell what additional resources Germany gained in 1944 that did not exist in say … 1942. Kill me but circumstances were lot worse in 1944 than 1942 or 1941.
No. Actually, I pointed out--and you ignored--that his intuition was sort of shitty in 1939 as he wanted to attack France (predictably) through Belgium. Hitler's "intuition" was only effective if balanced by a Greek chorus of dissenting Heer officers goading him to a patient, balanced decision
No, it was Hitler who saw genius of Case Yellow by Mabnstein. And OKH/OKW sent Manstein to east not to hear him any time soon.
Speaking of which, I suspect that your population figures are way off.
do correct than.
So she was a birdbrained sheep that followed an impotent, homicidal maniac mainly for prestige?
Well I would say she was in love, easily manipulated and probably had no knowledge of such things as Holocaust. It is difficult to interpret her perspective.
Just want to pick up on one of Nickdfresh's points, he said in response to wittman's assertion that there were 90 million German
10 million more/less
No. It's maintaining forum standards, including denying crypto-Nazis access to the forum when they post pro-Nazi or pro-Hitler or anti-Semitic drivel under the smokescreen of legitimate historical discussion.
again this Anti-semitic born impulse by non Semite people. How about Anti-Indian or better still Anti-Bushman 
I refuse to be labeled as crypto Nazi for one reason or other.
Not from the mods, as in this thread the ignorance emanates from wittman111 and horst.
dear, dear
Seems like a fair appreciation of the national victim complex Hitler and his ilk built up to reinforce the Nazis' right to reclaim their national and mystical Nordic heritage and persecute the Jews, Slavs, Gypsies, homosexuals, disabled, and everyone else who wasn't like what they wanted Germany to be (which was blue-eyed, blonde, etc, which was everything Hitler and his main henchmen weren't).
Interesting indeed. I still prefer my slavic country to that of multi-culti crap. I visited Germany recently and boy, mythical blue goddesses are gone for good.
If I were to marry please invent time machine.
