Falklands Conflict

These are his questions. I’ve answered the ones I can in bold.

[quote=“BDL”]

The German who admitted not having a clue about what he was talking about?

She never went to Portsmouth as anything you fool.
Invincible was never sank.
Your pilots never got near it.
You lost the war, live with it and stop coming out with Junta propaganda shite as ‘fact’[/quote]

you are wrong.

In the last topic, which was censured you could see a web page of the Royal Navy and there you can see that Illustrios went to Malvinas and to Porstmouth .
see:

http://www.naval-history.net/F61home.htm

And also I want your feedback regarding my apologies. Thank you[/quote]

Heloooooo…

Edited: I insist with this childish thing because you accused me that I’ve been insulted you. And the accusation wasn’t childish.

The German who admitted not having a clue about what he was talking about?

She never went to Portsmouth as anything you fool.
Invincible was never sank.
Your pilots never got near it.
You lost the war, live with it and stop coming out with Junta propaganda shite as ‘fact’[/quote]

you are wrong.

In the last topic, which was censured you could see a web page of the Royal Navy and there you can see that Illustrios went to Malvinas and to Porstmouth .
see:

http://www.naval-history.net/F61home.htm[/quote]

You’ve just posted proof your own argument is crap

Following the surrender, “Invincible’s” first priority is to sail well clear to the north, escorted by frigate “Andromeda” in order to change a main engine. “Hermes” remains behind until “Invincible” is back, and on the 4th July sails with escort “Broadsword” for Portsmouth, arriving on the 21st to another great welcome. Well before then, on the 2nd July, Admiral Woodward is relieved as Task Group commander by Rear Admiral Reffell flying his flag on destroyer “Bristol”.

But there is no relief for “Invincible” which has to await the arrival of newly-commissioned sister ship “Illustrious” carrying a reformed No.809 Sea Harrier squadron and the first early airborne warning Sea Kings. Reaching the Falklands on the 27th August, and after a day’s vertrep, “Invincible” is at last able to head north on the 28th accompanied by “Bristol” and later RFA “Olna”, arriving at Portsmouth on the 17th September to be met by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. After 166 days at sea, “Invincible” claims the record for the longest continuous carrier operations ever.

edit - I believe the phrase is ‘hoist by your own petard’

I REPET MORE AND MORE AGAIN:

Attacking, damaging and sinking were claimed ONLY by Argentina.

NO ONE in the world agree with this propaganda story.

(And you couldn’t blame Soviet Union: at that time the biggest threat for them were Ronald Reagan and Margaret Thatcher. It had to be the biggest opportunity for the Soviets to agree with Argentina on a strike against their enemy - remeber it was the Cold War era…)

By the why, in your opinion, why Galtieri started that war?

Edited: poor grammar :oops:[/quote]

not only Argentina know invincible was sunk.

Peru, Brasil, Uruguay…

Give me some links, because I was unable to found them.
And by the way, what your neighbour Chile said?

These are his questions. I’ve answered the ones I can in bold.[/quote]

your answer was: it wasn´t attacked, only that, i have told you i talked with the pilots, MEN!!! WAKE UP!!!

And isn´t the HERMES, it´s Invincible class, and is Illustrious, HERMES hadn´t a twin in that moment.

By the way, if you feel that I am on the British side please feel free to send a formal complaint to FW-190 Pilot (our current admin).

Edited to replace “make” with “send”.

TheIrishDuck, are you reading all the posts here? Check my last posts from above.

Duck please read the following carefully and then rebut any of them you can.

If Invincible was holed, how long would it take Illustrious to get down to the Falklands? This would mean a massive gap in capability as there would only be one flight deck available (Hermes). The Fleet and the men on the Islands would have been at the mercy of the FAA.

Even had the harriers not been lost, remembering that there were always some in the air, and the ones on deck (3 in your picture) would have been scrambled off. Where would they go?

They couldn’t go to Hermes, she was already packed with aircraft as it was. Both carriers had extra aircraft added to there normal compliement.

They would have to go to the Islands, they could operate from roads and even take off vertically (with a much reduced armaments and fuel payload) from fields, but here they would have been attacked by the FAA ground attack aircraft surely.

166 days at sea duck. Nearly 6 months. If you look at the state of Hermes when she came back to Portsmouth and then compare you can clearly see that Invincible was repainted at some point. Note, the only picture that shows an Invincible class carrier with a grey mast is the when Invincible enters Portsmouth.

ALL other pictures (of any of the THREE (3) carriers of that class) show them with the upper mast work painted black. I can only assume that Invincible wasn’t supplied with Black paint whilst out.

Illustrious, haveing only just come out of dock, would have had black mast work.

I anticipate your response with curiosity.

The German who admitted not having a clue about what he was talking about?

She never went to Portsmouth as anything you fool.
Invincible was never sank.
Your pilots never got near it.
You lost the war, live with it and stop coming out with Junta propaganda shite as ‘fact’[/quote]

you are wrong.

In the last topic, which was censured you could see a web page of the Royal Navy and there you can see that Illustrios went to Malvinas and to Porstmouth .
see:

http://www.naval-history.net/F61home.htm[/quote]

You’ve just posted proof your own argument is crap

Following the surrender, “Invincible’s” first priority is to sail well clear to the north, escorted by frigate “Andromeda” in order to change a main engine. “Hermes” remains behind until “Invincible” is back, and on the 4th July sails with escort “Broadsword” for Portsmouth, arriving on the 21st to another great welcome. Well before then, on the 2nd July, Admiral Woodward is relieved as Task Group commander by Rear Admiral Reffell flying his flag on destroyer “Bristol”.

But there is no relief for “Invincible” which has to await the arrival of newly-commissioned sister ship “Illustrious” carrying a reformed No.809 Sea Harrier squadron and the first early airborne warning Sea Kings. Reaching the Falklands on the 27th August, and after a day’s vertrep, “Invincible” is at last able to head north on the 28th accompanied by “Bristol” and later RFA “Olna”, arriving at Portsmouth on the 17th September to be met by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. After 166 days at sea, “Invincible” claims the record for the longest continuous carrier operations ever.

edit - I believe the phrase is ‘hoist by your own petard’[/quote]

see, there is your stupid Illustrious in action.

And there is Invincible returning to Portsmouth undamaged and being met by HM. You can’t just use the bits of a quote you like you know.

Annoying child (could be an insult if want - send a complaint to FW)
“stupid Illustrious”

COOL DOWN

In San Carlos brits has made a base, so they could put his aircraft there.

You talk always with Invincible, don´t understand? suppose that Invincible sunk, then all it´s too easy to see.

?

if you don´t know nothing about Malvinas war, please stay back.

[quote=“BDL”]

And there is Invincible returning to Portsmouth undamaged and being met by HM. You can’t just use the bits of a quote you like you know.[/quote]

no no, it is not Invincible, imaging that the carrier sunk, then you will see all clearly.

But it wasn’t. As the link YOU posted said:

“Invincible” is at last able to head north on the 28th accompanied by “Bristol” and later RFA “Olna”, arriving at Portsmouth on the 17th September to be met by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. After 166 days at sea, “Invincible” claims the record for the longest continuous carrier operations ever.

So it returned to Portsmouth unharmed on 17th September 1982 and was met by HM the Queen.

And there is Invincible returning to Portsmouth undamaged and being met by HM. You can’t just use the bits of a quote you like you know.[/quote]

no no, it is not Invincible, imaging that the carrier sunk, then you will see all clearly.[/quote]

YOU POSTED THE LINK THAT SAID IT GOT HOME SAFE

[quote=“BDL”]

But it wasn’t. As the link YOU posted said:

“Invincible” is at last able to head north on the 28th accompanied by “Bristol” and later RFA “Olna”, arriving at Portsmouth on the 17th September to be met by Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II. After 166 days at sea, “Invincible” claims the record for the longest continuous carrier operations ever.

So it returned to Portsmouth unharmed on 17th September 1982 and was met by HM the Queen.[/quote]

yes but the link don´t say that, you are a pirate it say other thing.

And there is Invincible returning to Portsmouth undamaged and being met by HM. You can’t just use the bits of a quote you like you know.[/quote]

no no, it is not Invincible, imaging that the carrier sunk, then you will see all clearly.[/quote]

YOU POSTED THE LINK THAT SAID IT GOT HOME SAFE[/quote]

yes, but i´m only agree in the part they mentioned the Illustrious.