Is this grass one of the valuable resources discovered in Siberia since WWII? Maybe Tundra Thunder?
Yes but If Germany lost in the East the Germany should be beaten by the allias.
By this way the whole power of allies began the war with Japane and they inevitably would lost.
So this is wrong IMO to think the Japanes were so stupid to think the defeat of Germany had no relation to the them.
I’m not so sure, so far as Japanese thinking went. Japan and Germany were really pursuing quite separate aims, with Germany having the distraction of Italy blundering about the German theatre and causing problems for Germany (and Italy!). Germany and Japan had a common enemy in communism, but they weren’t engaged in a common enterprise against common national enemies like the Allies were. They just happened to be fighting the same enemies in different places for their own reasons. The Allies worked on the Germany First policy, but the Japanese didn’t know that and it didn’t come into existence until after Japan attacked.
If we remember that the Japanese southern strategy was to grab territory and hold it until the West accepted the conquests, and that the whole purpose of the exercise was to create a self-sufficient trading bloc based on Japan, it didn’t matter much in Japanese thinking what happened elsewhere, as long as the rest of the world wasn’t communist and allowed Japan to keep its conquests.
The ONLY allien action of both Germany and Japane could had the effective resault.
Agreed.
The whole problem is that they didn’t operate as allies with common aims. If they had, one strategy would have been for Japan to attack Russia first early in, say, 1941; fight hard enough to draw troops from the west; and weaken the western front for the German assault. Again, if the Axis powers had co-operated, Italy wouldn’t have been blundering about in Greece and distracting Germany from Barbarossa at a critical time. Alternatively, Japan could have used the forces it used for its southward advance for an assault on Russia at the same time as Barbarossa started, or better still later in autumn as you mentioned, or even in winter without much military advance but still drawing in Russian troops, thus creating a dilemma for Russia about where to send its forces and how to manage the huge logistics on two fronts thousands of miles apart and perhaps making the wrong decision. It doesn’t follow that Russia, or the USSR, would inevitably have been beaten by better Axis co-operation as there was always the risk that Russia could retreat east and sap the Germans while holding the Japanese, but with strong Japanese forces pressing on their eastern front it might have defeated the USSR or resulted in peace terms.
Firstly i think the China’s resistence was not a seiouse problem for them ( if they finaly desided to attack the Asia)
Se to attack the soviet territory was not a great problem for them in 1941.
Becouse the Kwantung army occuped the territory of Manchguria and was very close to the bother of USSR.
You’re right.
I made the mistake of thinking of the situation much later than 1941, with greater Allied support for China. Not that the Chinese were a great threat even then, but they still held Japanese forces against them which couldn‘t be used elsewhere.
Well i heared this statement early.
But i read the another point also.
The Japane had wait - if the Moscow has falled in the authumn of 1941 they immediatelly began the attack of USSR ( they chosed in this case the “north direction”) and the attack of asia should be put aside for a time.
You may be right.
In Singapore: The Japanese Version, Masanobu Tsuji who was a staff officer closely involved in planning the Malayan / Thai invasions, gives some surprising details about the lateness of decisions to identify and attack these southern targets. It may be that firmer decisions had been made at higher levels unknown to him, but it is also consistent with other options being left open until the last moment.
The Japanes simply were afraid of. They wait while the Hitler presented tehn the Syberia instead of to help him to win the Red Army;)
I’m reading this to mean that the Japanese were afraid of attacking the Russians. That is probably correct. They got badly mauled at Nomonhan (Khalkhin Gol) in 1939 and weren’t keen to tackle Russia again. The neutrality treaty of 13 April 1941 reflects that, and also indicates that Japan wanted to make sure that it was free to move southwards without worrying about fighting the Russians http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/wwii/s1.htm This is reinforced by the declaration regarding Mongolia http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/wwii/s2.htm
Japan freed itself to move southwards without getting involved in the fight between Germany and the USSR. It also negotiated it long before Barbarossa, and concluded it formally a couple of months before Barbarossa.
I don’t think that Japan was too keen on getting into a fight with Russia, with or without Barbarossa. And Hitler failed to realise it.